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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:24 PM
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Word's out that McCain is just now vetting Palin.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:24 PM by charlyvi
Andrew Halcro, one of the Republicans who ran against Palin in 2006, is reporting that the McCain campaign has begun vetting their candidate:


The campaign of John McCain has sent a staff of eight people into Alaska to conduct background checks and vetting on Governor Sarah Palin.

Word is they have have eight rooms reserved at a Wasilla hotel.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11192



Wow. Just wow.

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:25 PM
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1. Are you shitting me?
One more example of the mature judgement of John McCain...
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:30 PM
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17. I am most definitely not shitting you. Here's more:
Borderline

This is amazing:


"On Saturday, a Democrat tasked with opposition research contacted the Huffington Post with this piece of information: as of this weekend, the McCain campaign had not gone through old newspaper articles from the Valley Frontiersman, Palin's hometown newspaper.

How does he know? The paper's (massive) archives are not online. And when he went to research past content, he was told he was the first to inquire.

"No one else had requested access before," said the source. "It's unbelievable. We were the only people to do that, which means the McCain camp didn't." (...)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:34 PM
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27. This is priceless.
Alert the media - NOW!

So much for gramps vaunted judgement.
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
88. DIGG IT UP
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 PM
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186. They don't have eight rooms at the Wasilla Hotel!
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #186
198. I LOLd.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #1
58. Dementia
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
66. It mighta worked out if palin
hadn't of turned out to be such a lying, abuser of power.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #66
87. Whaddya mean? Those are the attributes that made McCain pick her!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #66
89. Sorry - dupe
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:27 PM by hisownpetard
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #89
94. Heh. Part of the GOP training guide.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #89
98. I like this one best:)
I'm pissed about her treatment of our endangered Polar Bears and I bet Al Gore does not find her amusing. :pals:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:40 PM
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125. its going to be crowded in the newspaper morgue with repug, dem
and national enquirer folks all going at it and everyone in town -which HATES her- will be ready to spew. this is going to get awful very quickly.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #125
128. They better pack a tent.
Somehow I don't think Wasilla can handle all the traffic.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #128
133. geographically, Wasilla is huge. structurally, not so much. :)
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #133
135. I love your little doggie. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #135
138. my Tippy. He's my little soul mate. :)
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #138
139. Tippy is teh cute. n/t
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #138
184. your soul mate
or your running mate? I've been getting the two confused lately
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #184
196. Hehe.
Maybe both. Tippy looks very fit and trim.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:25 PM
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2. What?

Thats like flushing the toilet before you take a shit.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. LOL...oh my god.
:rofl: It's true and damn funny.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
44. Everything about that expression is so.............right!
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #2
201. It happens...
And easily correctable... you flush again when you're done.


Is he done yet???

:eyes:



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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:25 PM
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3. Wow is right.
McCain is the one who is a joke.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:25 PM
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4. Let the cover-up begin!
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:26 PM by No Surrender
:mad:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:25 PM
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5. What the hell is going on?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:26 PM
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6. He should just read DU - we've already covered about all the bases.
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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM
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Someone probably did read DU
thats why they sent 8 people. Four just wasn't enough.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:45 PM
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46. Exactly, that's why they JUST sent people up... Holy crap...
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
38. Seriously.
Just send him a link to our greatest page. They could be done in a couple of hours.

kber
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #38
145. *snort*
:rofl: :toast:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:26 PM
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7. Jesus H. Christ.
This man terrifies me.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM
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8. You missed the title "We will be ready in a few days" lol
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM by grantcart
I also wonder how all of the Republicans that she has so 'courageously' stabbed in the back will feel now that they will have a chance to be heard.


edited to add from the comments:

too late to vet - just clean up now
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM
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9. I can believe it...
:toast:
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM
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10. Do they have a paper shredder? Vetting or covering up? -nt
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
49. It's too late to cover up, the Dems were already there!!! They got what they needed
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:31 AM
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144. See? As I've said many times
Karl Rove is not a genius. My old party is not a bunch of geniuses. They are however, full of hubris, having won for many years on ruthlessness alone.

The GOP is entirely, utterly, defeatable, by any politically competent Democrat who understands what he or she is up against.

Enjoy :) They'll screw up a few more times before this is over, and as long as the Dems don't fall asleep at the wheel, this could be fun :)
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM
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11. They're in full damage control mode...
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM by dethl
Why didn't McSame do his homework before making his pick? This is political suicide at its finest.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #11
22. Because he paniced after Obama's speech
He needed something--anything--to overshadow the glowing reviews of Obama's speech. n that front he succeeded. But now he is stuck with her.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:40 PM
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As John Kerry says, McSame isn't a Maverick, he's erratic. (nt)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:49 PM
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53. and a prisoner of the religious right. nt
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #53
68. John McCain: Former POW, Current PORR (nt)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:55 AM
Response to Reply #68
166. Or Prisoner of Wingnuts nt
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #22
86. that heaps even more praise onto obama.........
that speech is now a benchmark in american politics and more candid and confrontational than anyone expected not least of all than for the simple fact that he spoke to that stadium and the television audience like adults not mindless voters who can't comprehend the facts as they are using grown up words. he addressed john mccain't like an adult too. that's why he's scarred. he though obama would shoot back with some politically calculated response to his juvenile attacks. he never expected to be publicly dissected like a frog in science lab.
i will say that obama's speech was frightening. it was frightening in that obama presented himself to world as never before an fascinated everyone with the imagination of what he could accomplish. mccain't can't do that
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
92. Perfect summary, in a nutshell.
:thumbsup:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #22
175. I agree completely.
It was a desperation move to get the Obama & the hugely successful dem convention off the front page. Well, McCain, you're front & center now!!

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #11
204. I don't think he did the choosing.
There are some with theories that Cheney or Rove forced this on McCain.Why else, would it look so last minute? Why else have someone he only met once. Jeesh!.. Or maybe...NONE of the VP picks he really wanted would agree to it at all! It's beyond fishy!!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:27 PM
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12. "A" Wasilla hotel?
:rofl:
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. typo.."the" wasilla hotle
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #14
147. It has 8 actual rooms?
:rofl:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
65. ha!
:spray:
I am dying here
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #12
77. Someone needs to call the Wasilla Hotels and ask to speak to the RNC.
I wonder if there are any rooms available in Wasilla?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:29 PM
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15. And this is how he will run the country.
Shoot first, ask questions later. Yup...he's a maverick.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:29 PM
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16. I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!
I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!

EIGHT MINUTES, AFTER OBAMAS SPEECH ENDED TO THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE IN FRONT OF EIGHTY-FOUR-THOUSAND PEOPLE IN DENVER!
Someone said, we're in trouble.
Let's think out of the box.

The next morning, Sarah Palin jumped out of that box with her BIG hair and nice legs.

Republicans.
They never cease to amaze me.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Exactly. He is very impulsive and quick tempered.
Everybody thought somebody else must have checked her out but nobody did. Now its going to be really awkward when they find out about all her warts. But they KNEW she was under investigation. And they KNEW she just had a child.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:30 PM
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18. That leaves two rooms for travelers...............
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:31 PM
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19. They are setting up to flush her.
"In light of RECENT discoveries, yadda yadda, yadda..."
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
34. Think of the damage the Eagleton backtrack did to McGovern in 1972.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:39 PM by tblue37
Ditching her won't make them look good, either.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #34
43. Yeah, it's a horrible choice, but...watchagonnado? nt
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #34
62. i know. beautiful thing isn't it?
the gift that keeps giving.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #19
110. "She has chosen to spend more time with her family..."
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:32 PM
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20. McINSANE is really on point isn't he...
NOT! What a dumb ass! :silly:
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:32 PM
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21. here is the proof that Bristol is still preggers and Trig is Sarah's baby
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM by solowannabee
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=117egpk&s=4

can anyone verify that photo is real? It was apparently taken a day or two ago.

I found the photo at this url, along with some comments from one sue williams, a neighbor of palin's. Williams comments explain the situation.

I do not have enuf posts to start my own thread, so please start one for me with this info.


from the comments on this blog:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/off-to-the-lan...


Sue Williams, commentor claiming to live near Palin and know here says baby is Sarah Palin's and that the oldest daughter is still pregnant and just got married.


Here are some of her comments:



Sue Williams (12:31:50) :

To the person who commented on Sarahs hair - no, its what happens when one has hair extensions - which Sarah, at one time, dont know about now, had.

Re: babygate - I dont know whats being reported. Here, however, is the truth. Trig is Sarah and Todds baby.

When Sarah first learned she was pregnant, it was shocking and overwhelming. While she and Todd had not planned to have anymore children, it is common knowledge among their family and friends that neither of them ever surgically insured that they wouldnt have any late in life surprises/blessings.

This, to me, showed a disturbing lack of judgement. If you want to ask the citizens of a state to let you run the state for four years, to me she and Todd should have thought ahead and determined that the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy wouldnt have been prudent for either the child, their family, their extended family (who are the ones who end up helping them raise their current four children) or the citizens of the state.

They either didnt think this through, or didnt care. Not sure. But, either way, to me and to others, it was a lack of foresight and judgement.

But it is the same vein - this lack of judgement - Sarah showed, on the campaign trail for governor, when asked who would raise her children should she win, she promptly stated that Todd would quit his job and stay at home with the kids (Todd works a Slope week on/week off schedule).

Sarah was elected and then - whoops. Todd didnt like the stay at home gig - so Sarah, citing they needed money for the kids college (even though Track enlisted in the military) said Todd was returning to work. When asked about her statements on the campaign trail about how Todd would quit his job, Sarah said shed actually never talked to him about what they would do if she was elected (in terms of his employment) and that shed spoken out of turn when she spoke for him stating hed quit his job.

Again, call me picky, but this is the kind of bizarre judgement Sarah routinely displays. Are you kidding me that she would run for governor and she and her husband would somehow not think to have a conversation about what to do with their four school aged kids? Thats insane. So, either her judgement is super goofy, or she wasnt telling the truth. Either way, its not reassuring to now think this is someone who would be one 72 year old heartbeat away from having to call shots for the country/world.

So Todd trots himself back to work and Sarah is busy traipsing around the state and the nation. The kids are farmed out (this is the word used by thier associates in the Valley) to family and friends to raise while Todd and Sarah are off having their respective careers (Sarah is famously quoted as saying, My mom does whatever I need her to).

During this period is when Bristol, Sarahs sixteen year old daughter, turns up pregnant. So, its kind of interesting to note that the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee and her sixteen year old junior in high school unwed daughter were carrying babies at the same time. Once Bristols condition became more obvious this summer, she was whisked out of sight and hasnt been seen in public until yesterday in Ohio. This is why Trigs blanket was strung across her entire abdomen and torso, but, when she walked down the stairs from the stage, in a profile shot, it was very clear to see she is well into her third trimester of her pregnancy.

It has come out in the past couple of days that she and her high school boyfriend had a quickie wedding and that she is home schooling her senior year.

The Anchorage Daily News has known about this for months - and havent touched the story. But I cant imagine the national press or the Democratic Party will be as willing to turn a blind eye.

For me, once again it speaks to judgement. We all - every single one of us - even Sarahs closest friends in the Valley (I know, Ive been speaking to them) know she is in no way qualified for this position. At all.

But then, why would she accept the nomination, knowing that Bristols situation will come to light and knowing her hunger for national and international acclaim and attention will carry with it a mighty high price for her seventeen year old daughter who had absent parents last year and who turned up pregnant.

How embarrassing will it be for Bristol once the news (or the baby) comes out and not just the Valley, not just Alaska, not just the USA - but Bristol will be known the world over as the seventeen year old unwed - then quickly wed senior-in-high-school-homeschooled-teenage mom and daughter to the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee?

How hard will that degree of scrutiny and shame be?

How does one do that to ones daughter?

How does one dash about the country for the next 66 days trying to pull off an image of the devoted mother of five when she, by and large, isnt the one raising them and when one of them - her daughter, is in a truly vulnerable point in life; not to say anything about the needs of Trig. But maybe he doesnt count, except as a talking point or a photo prop. But this is a person, a little boy who is going to require a tremendous amount of time and attention. From his mother.

This is okay?






Sue Williams (08:34:00) :

You all are a hoot. Kind of. You have no idea how surreal this whole pick is for Alaskans. NO ONE up here that I know - beside bumper sticker citz think Sarah is ready for - heck, the Senate, let alone VP or the White House. Its truly crazy.

Here are the facts - and really, if you want to spend time trying to understand Sarah, my best advice to you is to go to Andrew Halcro.com and read the past six weeks worth of his blog entries and the comments section - or, the Anchorage Daily News (adn.com). The ADN is very Palin friendly (the staff is all hoping shell bring them on board her Administration - cynical? Yes. But, kind of true, too. She rewarded the editor with a nice post in DC once she was elected gov).

Re: the pregnancy stuff. I wouldnt bother trying to track down anymore photos. Some Ive seen have the wrong dates assoicated with them anyway. Sarah gave birth to Trig. Many of us in Alaska speculated she kept her mouth shut b/c she didnt want people in DC to know when she went there in Feb (it allowed her to get to talk VP speculation). By the end of the preg (like late March, early April) she did look pregnant - her face got full and she only wore black changing out her scarves for color.

Trig is Sarah and Todds baby. She was very open (once she told everyone she was pregnant) that learning she was pregnant was a difficult thing, let alone learning he had Downs. Sarah is amazingly ambitious. She doesnt like to let anything stop her - clearly, she, and all of us, and anyone with a functioning mind, saw this pregnancy as taking her out of VP speculation. But, what do you know, John McCain I guess, doesnt have a functioning mind.

Bristol Palin is pregnant. She is well into her third trimester. She has been out of sight in Alaska for the past couple months. I learned the morning we all heard Sarah was chosen that Bristol and her high school boyfriend had had a quickie wedding. So, at least Sarahs grandchild wont be born to an unwed teenage mother, just a teenage, senior in high school mother.

When Todd and Sarah first learned Bristol was pregnant, they were devastated - which parents wouldnt be? Sarah said she knew the scrutiny of the press would be hard for Bristol to take.

And then Sarah decides its okay to run for VP? If she thought the press in down home Alaska - a press corp who has given her family a free pass and who, even tho theyve known about Bristols pregnancy for months, hasnt touched it with a ten foot pole - if Sarah thought Alaskas press would be hard for Bristol to bear, just exactly what did she think the nations press pool would be like? Or the fact that by accepting McCains offer to join the ticket, Sarah knew full well Bristol will become the most well known pregnant high school senior ON THE PLANET.

Apparently thats what blind ambition does for you, folks. It blinds you to the hearts and needs and lives and emotions and futures of everyone around you - incl. your own daughter who, God only knows how shell bear up under the shock and shame when this story finally comes out.

No thank you. I would like a VP candidate who puts the lives of the people shes supposed to be caring for first, above her own. Since, for social reasons (abortion and gay issues) I cant in my conscience vote for Obama, Ill show up in the booth this Nov and vote for congressional races then slip out before casting a vote for people who have no business being given the responsibility and honor of running our nation.

This whole thing is sick. Sick.








Sue Williams (09:56:01) :

Oh my gosh, you guys. Please. What do I care if Trig is Bristols baby? Maybe he was and now shes pregnant again. I dont know. That seems unlikely to me. Look, all I can tell you is Bristol is pregnant. Have you never lived in a small town? When one hears this rumor (and okay, I admit, I never heard it straight from Sarahs mouth) but have heard it from close to 20 people who are all long time friends of the family. Maybe they are all lying - and have been lying since April of this year when Willows boyfriend (Willow is the 8th grader) wouldnt shut up about how Bristol was pregnant. The story came out (not by the news, of course, because all four reporters in this state wanted Sarah to choose them next for some cool govt post) but by everyone whose anyone around here (and its not a hard job to be an everyone when theres so few of us).

What Im seeing is that America doesnt know how small towns work. You either lead the lily pure white life, or you move to a city, or, when your child turns up pregnant at 16, you hide her somewhere. Thats what happened here. Now, apparently, Sarah is keeping Bristol on the bus with Trig while she makes her appearances.

This must be the problem with conspirators, when the truth stares them straight in the eyes, they dont know how to recongize it. Please.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. Please don't take offense at this.
But your subject line reads like a soap opera review. LOL.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. oh.....
well, shucks, there goes my career as a soap opera writer. Thanks for the career advice!
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #32
39. No, I'm not criticizing at all.
I got a chuckle out of it.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
57. likewise
same here.....
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
102. And welcome to DU!
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #57
103. Oh yes. Welcome to DU!
Forgive my manners.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #21
42. THIS LAST POST ON THIS THREAD~~~ Deserves it's own thread!!!
Please post it so everyone can see it.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #42
56. I am so glad to see
that at least one person here besides me sees that Bristol is PREGNANT NOW. Thank you!
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #56
71. Is that picture taken from a few days ago? I didn't see the daughter at the conference...
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #71
119. when
I really do not know when it was taken. I am pretty sure it was really recent because of the size of the baby. I was hoping someone here would know.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #119
131. It appears to have been taken Thursday, the day of the
announcement. McCain is in the background getting his make-up refreshed. I think.


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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
78. Sue WIlliams also wrote this:
Part of this is kind of starting to be funny for me - though, from a Valley Perspective (for anyone who wants to hear this) yesterday felt like someone had died. People were walking around saying how they wanted to throw up. Truly. Ive never heard (or read, try andrew halcro.com or adn.com so many people describe feeling like they were going to get physically sick and vomit). Thats how CRAZY this sounded to all of us.<emphasis added (fyi - on those blogs, esp the adn site youll find a posse of Palinbots - as theyre referred to up here - who think she can do no wrong. These are what we call bumper sticker citizens. If an idea is too long for a bumper sticker, its too complicated for them to try and wrap their minds around. These people, by and large, compose Sarahs base. The 80% approval numbers you all - and presumably McCain - heard of where wrong).
IOW, the people who know Sarah Palin best feel sick, as though someone had died, at the very idea that this woman could be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

'Nuff said.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #78
120. palin
palin seems like a real dynamo in one respect, a force of nature, you might say. Persoanlly I find that sort of person scary. But I think most politicians are like that--pretty cocksure, unfortunately for the rest of us.

I guess that sort of person can make a lot of enemies. Looks like williams is an enemy of palin.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #120
162. Yeah...OK...Whatever...
And your reason for being here, exactly? What is it?

I just paged over your "Baby" post really, really quick without reading it. I think its garbage, and that this Palin's got a hell lot more to worry about than some rumor that won't be proven. There are facts of malfeasant that have little to do with an Inquirer only worthy story.


:eyes:
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #78
194. "Valley Perspective"
Harper Valley?

:rofl:

I wanna tell you all a story bout the Harper Valley widow wife
Who had a teenage daughter who attended Harper Valley's Junior High
Well her daughter come home one afternoon and didn't even stop to play
And she said mom I got a note here from the Harper Valley PTA......
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #21
79. Wanna bet Bristol somehow "loses" her baby sometime soon?
Of course that wouldn't be absolutely necessary, they could just "borrow" or adopt another too.

Now I'm sure Trig is Bristol's... b/c a halfway cover story is admitted among the locals, so they won't catch on. It's just as easy for Bristol to be wearing the "pregnant pillow" now, as for Sarah to have worn it earlier. Admitting Bristol's pregnancy but making it generally believed that her due date was AFTER Sarah's is a ploy to make it seem more believable, and be questioned less.

I'm sure the press will straighten it out eventually, but it needs to be before the election, not after.

Palin's duping the locals too. And not doing it very well IMO.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #79
83. you think trig is bristol's????
what about the photo I just posted that shows Bristol preg and holding trig??!!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #83
106. That could easily be a picture taken shortly after he was born
and before she lost the baby weight.
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #106
114. yeah
but the baby is already pretty big in that pic, though...
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #79
189. But why would she fake a pregnancy
to cover up her daughter's pregnancy and then have her daughter fake a pregnancy anyway?
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #21
101. WEALTH of info here - went online and checked out some of the blogs - TONS of info
WHEN is any of this going to hit the MSM!

To those of you w/Repuke friends who have e-mail: get this stuff started!
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solowannabee Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #101
121. i think the media will have to get into it pretty soon
but what if I am right, and the baby was Sarah's baby. That means that the media would have to talk about Bristol's out of wedlock pregnancy, which I doubt they would do.

Of course, heh heh, given the GOP attitude about family values and all, it would seem to be fair game--live by the sword, die by sword, as they say.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #21
167. Not necessarily pregnant now, if she hasn't lost the weight from the first pregnancy. nt
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #21
169. looks like a post-preggers body to me
Sarah on the OTOH doesn't look post-preggers at all!
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #21
197. Good post written from the heart. Thanks for sharing the truth...
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM
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24. I wonder if he is going to "un-ask" her to run with him once he finds out he's "screwn" himself.
:wow:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
25. LOL-- Shoot FIRST! Ask questions LATER!
:rofl:

WHy does (Republican) America always elevate incompetents?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #25
33. Just what we need in a chief executive.
A lunatic with his finger on the button.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
67. They have no choice -- it's all they've got.
Corruption attracts incompetence. Competent people don't need to be corrupt to make a living.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #25
69. You mean like this?


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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
26. Wow. Boy I didn't think Bush's incompetence could be topped.
:dem: I sure have been wrong a lot lately.
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
28. Thomas Eagleton
Can somebody please refresh my memory? Was Eagleton actually nominated for VP by the convention? Or was he out before he became "official"?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #28
72. He was official. Wehad the bumperstickers and posters and all. nt
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #72
84. Yep. It broke my heart. The first time I could vote. n/t
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #28
91. I think he pulled out before the he got the nomination.
The parallels between McCain and McGovern are striking. Eagleton was replaced by Sargent Shriver, after all the big names in the Democrat party declined the invitation.

I just hope that the American people see through the veneer of Phalin... don't count on it. :banghead:
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #91
97. Nope. It was after.
The memory is seared on my consciousness forever.


The 1972 National Convention of the United States Democratic Party was held at Miami Beach Convention Center in Miami Beach, Florida from July 10 to July 13, 1972. It nominated Senator George McGovern for President and Senator Thomas Eagleton for Vice President. Eagleton later withdrew from the race when it was disclosed that he had undergone mental health treatment (including electroshock therapy) in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Democratic_National_C...
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #97
123. So he was choosen
without careful review? I have heard of this before but I thought that ended with Humphrey in 68'. I suppose that Nixon was considered unbeatable back then. Wow, conventions must have been early back then, early as in mid-July.

:hi:
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #123
127. You know,
conventions were much more exciting then. I'm sure they vetted anyone who was on the short list before the conventions, but not knowing who the choices were made for very dramatic conventions. The roll calls, which are my favorite part, used to mean something then. Now it's mostly about the speeches, which is okay, but much of the thrill is gone for me.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #91
100. He was actually selected at the convention. Since then we have
selected our VP before so they could be vetted.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #100
122. Thanks, good to know
For some reason I thought that 68' was the last time parties choose the VP with out thorough review.

:hi:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #91
149. Yeah....Hi.....We are the Democratic Party
People like Rust Limba and Spawn Insanity use "Democrat Party."

Just thought you should know...
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #149
151. I heard this somewhere.
I forgot what the differentiation is. What is it?

Must have slipped my mind.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #151
153. The difference is simply that we are the Democratic Party
Anything else is simply uncivilized.

Those RW A-holes use it as a slur. You shouldn't.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #91
161. uh, scuse me. That's "DemocratIC party".
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 04:06 AM by kath
thank you.

{on edit - someone beat me to it. Thanks.}
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
30. 8 rooms at the hotel?
I'm surprised that a town that sized HAS a hotel with 8 rooms.

I live in a town of 2000 and we have one bed and breakfast with maybe 4 or 5 rooms.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:38 PM
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31. wow.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:40 PM
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35. Vetting and governing is for chumps, doncha know?
Sort of thing Clinton would have done.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. POWs don't have to vet.
They just know.
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #48
74. Just like Chuck Norris. He doesn't have to vet either. nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:40 PM
Response to Original message
36. I LOVE this comment from the blog page:
oh really Says:

Presumptive President John McPOW will soon announce that the vetting of Palin has been suspended because all hands are needed on the front lines of Gustavthe Central Front in the War on Nature

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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. Bwhahahahaha!
Is it just me or is McCain running this Gustav thing in the ground? Is there any Gulf State he hasn't popped up in today?
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ellaydubya Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:40 PM
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37. This is incomprehensible!!!
The Vice President is a very important position- a heartbeat, literally, away from the Presidency- yet McCain's people did no serious checking into her background and he only met her once!?!?!?!?!?! Give me a break!!!!!! That is a slap in the face to our political process and shows how incompetent he is for the position of POTUS!!!!!! The audacity, the laziness, the arrogance.... We should all be outraged---me, myself, have been in complete shock since his choice was announced- I keep thinking this is someone who knows he is going to lose or wants to lose.....what a crazy place we are in.

BUT, on the other hand, we have the beautiful, smart, visionary team of Obama and Biden, and I could not be prouder. Every time I see and hear them I am more proud than before - we cannot let the Republicans steal this one from us- No way, no how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put your boots on, folks, we might have to kick a little ass! :bounce: :mad: :crazy: :kick: :patriot:
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #37
73. now we know why his campaign was so tight-lipped about the choice!
he didn't decide until like the day before!!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #73
82. he wasn't keeping a secret - there was no VP! nt
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #82
85. LOL! n/t
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #37
96. Yes, a very important position!
Not only to the "health" of the pres., but an official of the senate (help! I can't think of the precise title, but the VP has to break tie votes, doesn't (s)he?) Plus, presides if there's an impeachment? There's probably more, but that's all I can think of just now.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #96
152. The Vice President is the President of the Senate regardless of party control
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:43 PM
Response to Original message
40. So this act of incompetence is fine with the old guard of that party?
Interesting. Something to hammer on.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:15 AM
Response to Reply #40
157. The old guard is almost gone
The GOP is almost entirely populated by the wave of ideologues that started to come to power in the '80's. What's left of the old guard (much of it is dead) is too old to do much, too loyal to object too loudly, or so disgusted it now calls itself "independent", "Democrat", "Libertarian", or "Republicans for Obama".
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:45 PM
Response to Original message
45. Yeah -- That's the type of judgment and decision-making habits we want in a president....
:wow:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:46 PM
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47. Their usual incompetence
How do these morans manage to convince the idiot voters they are the ones who can keep their helpless asses "safe?"

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #47
59. The first smart decisions by Bush and Cheney was to stay the hell outta there...LOL..n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:48 PM
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50. Don't you usually do that BEFORE giving someone a job?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #50
54. Not if you're a POW.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #54
76. P O Dubya n/t
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:48 PM
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51. Haven't we had enough of 'Act first...then check the facts'?
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 08:48 PM by nini
MORE OF THE SAME.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:48 PM
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52. WTF were they doing this entire time?
Can someone please call the McCain campaign and remind them this is a Presidential campaign?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #52
70. Vetting the SERIOUS VP candidates.
But what the hell, why not think out of the box?
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:50 PM
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55. Watch out!
They'll discover she was a POW. She was captured by the people in that extremely close country - Russia. :yoiks:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:52 PM
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60. Watch out for the drunk drivers in Wasilla!!!

It's a bad place for that, for some reason.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. Maybe it's the 20 million in debt she left the town with.
It's about 3k and change per person. I'd drink too.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #64
75. It's a death trap.

I was visiting there and was warned over and over about a certain stretch of highway that sees a lot of accidents from drunk drivers. Lots of drugs in the area too.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:53 PM
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61. OMG, the Obama people beat him to vetting his own candidate???
The dems are already THERE!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:54 PM
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63. this could get good, pass the popcorn
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:08 PM
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80. She'll be a female Tom Eagleton by the end of next week
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:14 PM
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90. Do you really think so?
Or is he too damn stubborn.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:10 PM
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81. Unbelievable.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 PM
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93. unf**ing believable. the clown party. (no offense to clowns)
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:17 PM
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95. I imagine they are there to pay off Palin's son-in-law's family
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:17 PM by rainbow4321
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


And threaten/pay off anyone else who thinks that they may make a few bucks off of Palin's past.

Betcha all of her files/emails as MAYOR are disappearing as we speak.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:24 PM
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99. Too bad they can't pay down the 20 mill debt she left the town of Wasilla drowning in.
But that's not the Republican way. Deficits don't count.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:33 PM
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104. Because McCain had a crush from the start
yuk, I can't go on with this post..

Why do I keep picturing McCain as Elmer Fudd...
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:36 PM
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105. Yeah. It would be insulting to vet a soulmate. LOL!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:41 PM
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107. Unbelievable.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:42 PM
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108. So this was most likely a last minute decision.
I suspect that she wasn't his original choice. Probably the first choice didn't work out for some reason. Weren't there rumors about Pawlenty?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:45 PM
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109. Pawlenty, Romney and Lieberman.
I think he really, really wanted Lieberman but the Base wouldn't accept it. So much for Mr. Maverick.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:56 PM
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111. The more I think about it the stranger this seems.
Anybody with any sense would have thoroughly vetted everyone on their short list by now so that they'd have backups if their first choice wasn't available or turned it down for some reason.

I think the campaign is in panicked disarray.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:00 PM
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112. Scarey, isn't it?
Sometimes I think he's got PTSD or something. How in hell can you choose a veep without vetting? EVERYONE'S got skeletons in their closet, it's just who has the least damaging ones. Hell, that's what vetting is for.
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:05 PM
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113. According to ABC, Lieberman was the top choice until this week
ABC's Political Radar blog

"It wasn't until Sunday night that John McCain, after meeting with his four top advisers, finally decided he could not tap independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to be his running mate. One adviser, tasked with taking the temperature of the conservative base, had strongly made the case to McCain that it would be a disaster for the party and that the base would revolt."

Whatever "vetting" that was done must have been minimal.

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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:50 PM
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132. Rove killed the Lieberman pick and the immature and petulant
side of McCain flared. Look what it got us.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:36 PM
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115. I think he got wasted the night of Obama's speech and did a drunk dial
to Palin. He's been doing the walk of shame ever since. I'm convinced that this was a last minute decision too.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:40 AM
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148. Drunk dial! That explains everything!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:00 AM
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156. Oh....Totally....
Ring, ring, ring....

Ring, ring, ring....

P: Hello.

M: Hey BABY, how are your tatas?

P: Excuse me? Who is this? This better not be Jonah Goldberg, again.

M: No baby, this is the next President.

P: President of what, exactly?

M: The United States of America!

P: Oh gosh, Sen. McCain, I am so gosh darn sorry!

M: It's ok. I am kinda talking quiet. I don't want to wake up "Cruella"

P: Your dog?

M: Yep, that's what I call her too.

P: Anyway, sir, is there anything I can help you with?

M: Yeah. Lieberman's a Jew. Doesn't help my church credentials. Wanna be VP?

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:19 PM
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203. OMFG! "cruella"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:27 PM
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190. LOL!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:37 PM
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116. It's just like how he was for the Iraq War... shoot first, ask questions later
What a pathetic swine.

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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:42 PM
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117. How fucking strange. I mean W-T-F?!?
You know, before, even though I realized the stakes I never imagined a McCain administration could be any more of a disaster than Bush and we're still pretty much in the game. But now, FUUUUUCK. I'm freaking scared for this country. Like genuinely fucking petrified!!! This guy, and everyone around advising him must be FUCKING INSANE!@
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:45 PM
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171. Agree - it's downright terrifying. nt
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:48 PM
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118. wow!
:rofl:
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:36 PM
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124. K&R
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:43 PM
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126. THEY'RE NOT VETTING .. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE INVESTIGATION GO AWAY


This is McCain's thugs going out there to strong-arm state officials to make the Federal investigation surrounding her go away.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:49 PM
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129. They can't make newspaper archives or townspeople go away.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:18 AM
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159. But they're incompetent and arrogant and desperate enough to try n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:48 AM
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141. I think you may be right.
Are you just surmising this or do you have a source?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:49 PM
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130. They need to check photographers' studios
Looking for nude pictures.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:55 PM
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134. Wasilla HAS eight hotel rooms?
I did not know that.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:59 PM
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136. Obama's team needs to make an ad out of this.
And they should end it with the Palin clip where she says, "What exactly is it that the VP does?"
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:01 AM
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137. this is great
this is the best thing that could happen for us.

wow, I am just so happy. :) :) :) :)



Cher
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:14 AM
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140. Well this ought to help the town dig out of the $20 million debt she
left them with. Hotel and diners in Wasilla will be packed to the gills for the next week!
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:32 AM
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142. I know its "maverick" to shoot first and ask questions later...
but did he really think he would get away with this?

If he uncovers something problematic now, he has to either suck it up and stay with trophy veep, or make himself look like an ass by naming someone else.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:39 AM
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143. He may still get away with it.
He has the media in his pocket.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:43 AM
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150. That thought always lingers in the back of my head.
Ever time I see the Rupugs do something criminal, I also get to watch them get away with it. Every time! I fear that the M$M will spin this woman into a credible candidate, :puke:
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:53 AM
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154. I just hope she dispells that notion
every time she opens her mouth.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:18 AM
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158. Indeed.
Although I remember thinking the same thing about GWB. I openly laughed at the thought of Al Gore not getting 99% of the vote. I just hope the American people are smarter this time around.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:20 AM
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160. We however have the "new media" in our "pockets", and the corporate media
can't ignore the internet buzz for too long.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:24 AM
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170. Its a good point, but we aren't locked out the way we were a few years ago either.
We have a few allies like KO and Maddow, and blog stories are being covered more often these days.

In any case, there are other reasons I wouldn't have made this pick if I were McCain.

Exhibit A:



Try spinning that ^^^^

He has never looked older.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:24 PM
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177. True. We do have more outlets.
Thank goodness. And the GOP is fast looking like last century's news.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:34 AM
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146. Recommended - as an example of how McCrash approaches big
decisions, it deserves to be humongous news.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:55 AM
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155. A hotel in Wasilla has EIGHT rooms? Wow, that is amazing.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:25 AM
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163. Rumor is Ed runs it now.


I also heard Roslyn's Cafe has wi-fi now too, if you happen to be downtown.

Enjoy.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:52 AM
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164. Doesn't he realize that if a Republican bases a campaign on honesty that means they are dishonest?
Almost every thing Republicans base their campaigns on are the exact opposite of their own behavior.
Just look at the record.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:11 AM
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165. It's really like Kerry said, it's as if they let limbaugh make the choice...
This stuff is just getting better and better every day, and I don't even care about all the baby stories...count them in and whoohoo, you got yourself 24 hours reading material on the net.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:59 AM
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168. McBush's incompetence is terrifying.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:13 PM
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172. Deleted message
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:18 PM
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174. You disrupt poorly my friend.
Very, very poorly.

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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:25 PM
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178. Please Don't talk Like this here.Very Awfully comments.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:17 PM
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173. So....
...shoot first and ask questions later? Is that it?

I see.

Worst. Presidential candidate. Ever.

(...and yes...that includes Chimpy. I can't believe I said it either.)

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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:22 PM
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176. This is Outrages , They don't even choose VP like this in AFGHANISTAN , With all Respect To my fello...
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:32 PM
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179. McPOW is in for a BIG SURPRISE!!
Maybe they can postpone the convention till Wednesday.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:33 PM
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180. McCain clearly wants to lose
I can't imagine a bigger shipwreck than Palin. Unfortunately for him, what's left of his campaign will remain mired on the rocks, even if he dumps her in short order.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:44 PM
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181. EIGHT ROOMS? That's probably the whole town's hotel inventory!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:46 PM
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182. Ready, FIRE, aim.
:crazy:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:51 PM
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183. Select a VP and check them out later and go to war with Iran and find out later...
that they were not making WMD. Wonderful judgment skills there buddy.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:01 PM
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185. Ready, Fire, Aim from the GOP.
:rofl:
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:11 PM
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187. All 8 rooms in Wasilla????
Where will the other tourist stay?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:20 PM
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188. As Howard Hunt would say, "Good God!"
This is worse than Dan Quayle. Hell, this is worse than Eagleton! Selecting, then vetting?! Obama needs to crucify McCain over this gaffe at the debates.
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djp2 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:27 PM
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191. She won't last to November

I Posted a few days ago....

I'm not going back on my prediction that McCain won't last as a candidate till November. But now am throwing in that Palin won't either. A week or two after the hoopla at the Repug convention, she will be found to have a skeleton in her closet and dropped (not very well vetted), with a NEW VP candidate appt.made by McCain.

Watch for that new VP candidate to be the REAL presidential nominee when McCain has "Health problems" around the middle of Oct., too late to get the dirt on the VP replacement, who will get sympathy vote, it could even be another female.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 PM
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193. Joe Lieberman perhaps? n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:27 PM
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192. And when he pushes that red button,
how many days will it take for him to consider his decision?

This is precisely the sort of hyper-impulsive, reckless hot-head we need running this country, no? :eyes:
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:54 PM
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195. Where is all the Responsible Media Coverage ??????????
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:36 PM
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199. just more water under the levee n/t
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:48 PM
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200. PREEMPTIVE STRIKE #2..... we are now 0-2
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:59 PM
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202. that's what I have been thinking myself
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