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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:22 PM
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A chorus of denunciations from Alaskans & Republicans.
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 03:23 PM by Bucky
The following quotes were copied from Washington Monthly--now being written by the Carpetbagger (Steve Benen)
Republicans


* Charles Krauthammer: "The Palin selection completely undercuts the argument about Obama's inexperience and readiness to lead.... To gratuitously undercut the remarkably successful 'Is he ready to lead' line of attack seems near suicidal."

* Noah Millman, presenting a defense for Palin: "I realize, of course, that she's totally unqualified to be President at this point in time. If McCain were to die in February 2009, I hope Palin would have the good sense to appoint someone who is more ready to be President to be her Vice President, on the understanding that she would then resign and be appointed Vice President by her successor."

* Ramesh Ponnuru (from the National Review) called it "tokenism," adding, "Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?"

* David Frum: "The longer I think about it, the less well this selection sits with me. And I increasingly doubt that it will prove good politics. The Palin choice looks cynical.... It's a wild gamble, undertaken by our oldest ever first-time candidate for president in hopes of changing the board of this election campaign. Maybe it will work. But maybe (and at least as likely) it will reinforce a theme that I'd be pounding home if I were the Obama campaign: that it's John McCain for all his white hair who represents the risky choice, while it is Barack Obama who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.... If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?"

* Kathryn Jean Lopez: "As much as I loathe Obama-Biden, I can't in good conscience vote for a McCain-Palin ticket. Palin has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs. Considering both McCain's advanced age and the state of the world today, it is essential that the veep be exceedingly qualified to assume the office of president. I simply don't have any confidence in Palin's ability to deal effectively with Iran, Russia, China, etc."

* Mark Halperin: "On the face of it, McCain has failed the ultimate test that any presidential candidate must face in picking a running mate: selecting someone who is unambiguously qualified to be president."


Alaskans


* The Daily News-Miner in Fairbanks: "She has never publicly demonstrated the kind of interest, much less expertise, in federal issues and foreign affairs that should mark a candidate for the second-highest office in the land.... Most people would acknowledge that, regardless of her charm and good intentions, Palin is not ready for the top job. McCain seems to have put his political interests ahead of the nation's when he created the possibility that she might fill it."

* State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla: "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?"

* Dermot Cole, a longtime columnist for Alaska's second largest newspaper, The Daily News-Miner, called McCain's choice of Palin "reckless" and questioned her credentials.

* Mike Doogan, a former columnist now serving as a Democrat in the state legislature: "John McCain looked all over the United States to find the single Republican who is qualified to be, as the saying goes, a heartbeat away from the presidency, and he came up with Sarah Palin. Really? ... {L}et's be honest here. Her resume is as thin as the meat in a vending machine sandwich.... The long and short of it is this: We're not sure she's a competent governor of Alaska. And yet McCain, who is no spring chicken, has decided she's the best choice to replace him as president if he should win and then fall afoul of the Grim Reaper. Sarah Palin? Really?"

* The Anchorage Daily News' Gregg Erickson: " tends to oversimplify complex issues, has had difficulty delegating authority, and clearly has some difficulty distinguishing the line between her public responsibilities and private wishes.... It is clear that she has not paid much attention to the nitty-gritty unglamorous work of government, of gaining consensus, and making difficult compromises. She seems to be of the view that politics should be all rather simple. That often appeals to the wider public, but frustrates those who see themselves as laboring in the less glamorous parts of the vineyard."

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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:31 PM
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1. Thanks.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:52 PM
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6. de nada. But....
the credit should go to the Washington Monthly.com website I copied them off of.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:34 PM
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2. thanks for compiling these
:hi:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:40 PM
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4. Don't thank me
Steve Benen from Washington Monthly.com cullled these. For me it was just ctrl+c, shift+tab over to DU, and ctrl+v.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:39 PM
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31. oooooooOOoooo geek speak makes me hot!
SNORT! Love ya, honey. you made me laugh. :evilgrin:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:35 PM
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3. Very nice!
K&R
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:52 PM
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5. That's a nice roundup.
I notice that one of the quotes is from Lyda Green who is the fellow Republican that Palin and a RW radio show host made fun of and snickered at.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:06 PM
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7. God I love my state
we tend to call it how we see it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:43 PM
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23. If this is any criterion..Alaska will
have a recall :P
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:04 PM
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24. It would speak volumes if Alaska were still in play after this
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:13 PM
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26. There ya go,
Bucky!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. obama is doing great up here but don't underestimate a sentimental
hometown vote.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:53 AM
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40. yeah, those 9000 folks might tip the balance! n/t
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cojoel Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:10 PM
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8. If McCain were to die in February 2009...
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 04:11 PM by cojoel
* Noah Millman, presenting a defense for Palin: "I realize, of course, that she's totally unqualified to be President at this point in time. If McCain were to die in February 2009, I hope Palin would have the good sense to appoint someone who is more ready to be President to be her Vice President, on the understanding that she would then resign and be appointed Vice President by her successor."

If McCain were to die in February 2009, I hope Governor Napolitano appoints a Democrat to the US Senate seat he vacated.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:14 PM
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9. They're having multiple orgasms on Faux today
One of the female news hosts said she was delighted at the way Obama's momentum was derailed with the Palin pick (yeah, the official news hosts aren't even trying to hide their bias now). They're reading e-mails they're supposedly getting from viewers and each and every one of them, without exception, is drooling over Palin. Faux is calling Palin the Republican answer to Bill Clinton, saying she's one of the best politicians ever to come along with the type of people skills that Bill Clinton had and with the ability to communicate to the common man and woman in their own terms. It would be really, really funny if Faux wasn't reaching millions of viewers and brainwashing them to the max.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:38 PM
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28. I'm going to watch the election returns on Fox this year.
For as long as I can take it. At some point, it might quit seeming so funny.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:49 AM
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39. If we win, that will be fun! I feel like puking about 2 minutes into most Faux programs. n/t
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:02 PM
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51. No doubt they'll have gallows installed at stage right....
...so when Obama humiliates McCain and the Democrats increase their majorities in both the House and the Senate...Hannity, Rove, O'Reilly, etc. won't have to walk too far to hang themselves.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:14 PM
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30. Over many years, the Clintons built a base of friends and supporters
that they could rely on. Palin has none of that. She is not to be compared to the Clintons. The minute that she does something embarrassing the folks at Faux will disown her and ask why she let them down.

She has come out of nowhere. You just can't do that in politics these days. Sure, she has the fundamentalist support, but they follow where lead.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:43 PM
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33. pugs hate her up here. they loathe her. you notice that these
hateful remarks are from repugs, not dems.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:56 AM
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41. strange - Cafferty on CNN got some 20,000 emails nearly all negative
How could this possibly be?

Perhaps it is a measure of the intellect of the viewers rather than a representation of the facts.

Or, there is the possibility that faux lies.

I think a combination of the two.

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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:08 PM
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43. I don't think there's any question about that
Unless, of course, you're a Faux devotee. Fox Faithful -> :dunce:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:21 PM
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10. Please post a link... n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:26 PM
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12. Here ya go
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:21 PM
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11. Sure, a fundie takeover. No wonder the increase in their grassroots enthusiasm...
which was the sole purpose. They needed the election work to get done, so throw a very huge bone to the fundies.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:27 PM
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13. K&R
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:28 PM
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14. A good read---thanks for posting this n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:31 PM
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15. K&R. The most helpful post of the entire day at the DU.
Bucky, your OP is much appreciated. I've hunted myself to find any dissension in the GOP ranks and could find little. But you have compiled what I hope is just the beginning of what will become a bandwagon of Republicans looking for a alternate trail to exit from the idiotic path McCain is leading them all on.

I will pass along these quotes to others. Let's build an echo chamber to give other Republicans quietly sitting on the fence cover to abandon this weird pick by McCain.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:30 PM
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21. Wow. Thanks
the most flattering K&R I've ever got. Well, except for the time blogslut flirted with me.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:35 PM
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16. K & R
:thumbsup:
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vegansrule Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:38 PM
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17. Let's get the word out on this!!!
E-mail bomb it to everyone you know...post it up on the office bulletin board...
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:47 PM
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18. K&R. "A heartbeat away from the presidency."
That's enough right there.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:53 PM
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19. "Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?"
it needs to be repeated
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:55 PM
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20. Way to lump Halperin in there with the Republicans
:thumbsup:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:41 PM
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22. The longer I think about it..the more stupid it becomes..cnn needs
to cut the slobbering over mccain's "boldness" and get the hell outta 1984.

David Frum: "The longer I think about it, the less well this selection sits with me. And I increasingly doubt that it will prove good politics. The Palin choice looks cynical.... It's a wild gamble, undertaken by our oldest ever first-time candidate for president in hopes of changing the board of this election campaign. Maybe it will work. But maybe (and at least as likely) it will reinforce a theme that I'd be pounding home if I were the Obama campaign: that it's John McCain for all his white hair who represents the risky choice, while it is Barack Obama who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.... If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?"

I can't believe these are the rwingers. Don't really give a fuck if katheryn lopez is too stupid too percieve genius, though.

mccain is getting busted on his putting his political interests above his country..he's been doing this since after 2000 and it took a palin for them to notice? Sounds like they don't like his celebrity choice for vp.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:11 PM
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25. Please crosspost in DU Research Forum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


I know we'll be adding to it, and it will be easier to find in the Research Forum.


We might even include those editorial cartoons.


Thanks!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:20 PM
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27. there doesn't seem to be a category for Palin yet in the research forum
I've got the sources bookmarked, if you can tell me where I should put this.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:42 PM
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29. THANKS
for posting this, very interesting.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 09:16 PM
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34. Ha! This is the only line we ever need when it comes to Palin:
"Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?"

The fact that a Republican said it is just icing on the cake :9
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 06:41 AM
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35. Well this one of the lot sums up Repub-think quite nicely.
"tends to oversimplify complex issues, has had difficulty delegating authority, and clearly has some difficulty distinguishing the line between her public responsibilities and private wishes.... It is clear that she has not paid much attention to the nitty-gritty unglamorous work of government, of gaining consensus, and making difficult compromises. She seems to be of the view that politics should be all rather simple. That often appeals to the wider public, but frustrates those who see themselves as laboring in the less glamorous parts of the vineyard."

Sheesh, insert virtually anyone in the GOP's name and the paragraph still works.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 AM
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37. Too True.
They run by that formula. What stuns me still is how well it works. What stuns me more is that we haven't thought up a strong counterattack to that formula after two generations of that Nixonesque gamesmanship.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:10 AM
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36. K&R Like I said before, this is going to back fire on the thugs!
I think McCrazy cut his own throat on this pick.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:36 AM
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38. The Noah Millman quote is interesting:
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 09:37 AM by trthnd4jstc
* Noah Millman, presenting a defense for Palin: "I realize, of course, that she's totally unqualified to be President at this point in time. If McCain were to die in February 2009, I hope Palin would have the good sense to appoint someone who is more ready to be President to be her Vice President, on the understanding that she would then resign and be appointed Vice President by her successor."

When Pres. Clinton was in impeachment hearings, I implored his office to suggest that he would resign and the VP Gore would assume the Presidency. Pres. Clinton would have none of it. I would think that a Pres. Palin would be as vapid as a Pres. Bush. I think that this sort of power is not something that most people would let go of. And to assuage any person wishing to vent on me, I do not think that Pres. Clinton lieing to a Grand Jury about a sexual relationship rose to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors: I do not think that he was able to effectively serve as President, during and after the impeachment. And of course, Bush and Cheney should be impeached, and tried, and removed from office. These Criminals have hurt our Nation most severely and are the sort that the Founding Fathers would have wanted impeached.

I do not think a Pres. Palin would appoint a VP who was qualified, and then resign. That level of Honor is rare amongst People. If she had that level of Honor, she would have declined the offer to be the VP.
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:16 PM
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45. Watch out--she just might appoint Cheney! n/t
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:03 PM
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52. Yeah, but with his health issues he'll probably die in March 2009
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:59 AM
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42. Great job!
:thumbsup:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:12 PM
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44. Oh interesting Lyda Green, that was the woman that Palin laughed
about in a radio interview (after the "moderator" and I use that term very loosely) they called her a "bitch" and a "cancer."
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:06 PM
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46. Will she make it
Through the convention? The GOP is stuck with her as a candidate, if they have a floor fight it shows McCain as having bad judgment. If they keep her and she looks so unqualified it shows his bad judgment.
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:26 PM
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47. Frum: "a theme that I'd be pounding home if I were the Obama campaign:"
I like Frum's quote:

"...it will reinforce a theme that I'd be pounding home if I were the Obama campaign: that it's John McCain for all his white hair who represents the risky choice, while it is Barack Obama who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.... If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?"


Choosing a VP was McCain's first major decision since the presidential season began in earnest and he devises this cynical and impetuous blunder? This should certainly assure the end of any chance of a McCain presidency. Just take a good hard look, not only at McCain's choice at face value, but take another good hard look at Palin herself.

I refuse to believe Americans will validate McCain's most recent example of his craven ineptitude with their votes.
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brit54 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:51 PM
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48. Obama reaction
What I like about this choice is that Obama/Biden can be silent or very gentle in their reactions - there is so much negative response from the GOP side - let them kill the ticket!!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:52 PM
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49. Ad material....
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:57 PM
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50. Excellent read, thank you.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:05 PM
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53. The last one is excellent.
Thanks for posting this. :hi:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:43 PM
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54. Thanks - Worth holding on to this list
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everything-bolt-up Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:19 PM
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55. GREAT FIND!!!!
This woman WAS NOT VETTED!!!

Let MCCAIN be stuck with her. I am sorry - NO SPIN can salvage this. The Obama camp will make them look silly for this without even trying!

NOT THIS TIME!
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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 03:33 PM
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56. Reckless is one correct word for this selection of Palin for VP. Scary is another.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:50 PM
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57. Thanks Bucky! Kick for the weekend crowd! nt
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