NO TO BORN IN THE USA!!!

[MadBadger]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Its not a Ra Ra America Song! All you people are wrong happily waiving your American Flags!!!

[AnnieBW]

1. Taking It Back From Ronnie Ray-Gun

They wouldn't be using it if Bruce hadn't approved it.

[StrongBad]

2. It is a great American song, but not a Ra Ra America song...

...and Bruce is one of us. Nothing wrong with celebrating his tunes.

[sandnsea]

3. It is for "US"

because we understand our responsibility to listen to Bruce and change.

[godai]

6. BRUUUUCCCCEEEEE!!!!!! n/t

[Teaser]

4. lost cause

you're right, of course, but sometimes, when the rest of the world believes something, it's almost as good as true... :(

[RepublicanElephant]

5. democrats get the irony. n/t

.

[last_texas_dem]

7. I definitely see your point about it being misinterpreted

Still, if it's going to be played at a convention, its message is much more fitting for the beliefs of our party than those of the 'pugs'.

[Blarch]

8. The song is still...

a sign of the times ..unfortunately.

[tularetom]

9. Does anybody ever listen to the fuckin lyrics of this song?

"Put a rifle in my hand to go and kill the yellow man"?

It's a great song but it ain't a patriotic anthem.

[MadBadger]

10. Or how bout pay attention to history

didnt work for Raygun for that very reason.

[last_texas_dem]

12. Yeah, it's use as a patriotic anthem is right up there with

when Wrangler Jeans attempted to turn "Fortunate Son" into a happy, pro-America anthem in that commercial... :scared:

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. I was _just_ gonna bring up Fortunate Son

[last_texas_dem]

17. Yeah, that usage of the song was just sad

Worse because I'm pretty certain that it was able to be used w/o Fogerty's permission. IIRC, he lost the rights to his CCR recordings due to some conflict with their label, Fantasy Records.

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. Yes, if I recall he was livid over that

[DangerousRhythm]

16. or "Every Breath You Take" as a wedding song.

:scared:

[WinkyDink]

11. Yeah, but Bruce is a DEMOCRAT!

[Jennicut]

14. We all get that its not ra-ra, its about changing things since the 1980's

We know. I still am gonna wave my flag for the country I want it to be. Plus, this shows all the MSM crappers and Rethugs that WE care the party of patriotism because we want are country to be better. We don't settle.

[PermanentRevolution]

15. Lyrics...

Definitely not a "Rah rah" song, but I think it has pretty strong parallels to Bush's America



Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up


Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

I got in a little hometown jam
And so they put a rifle in my hands
Sent me off to Vietnam
To go and kill the yellow man



Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "Son if it was up to me"
I go down to see the V.A. man
He said "Son don't you understand"



I had a buddy at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone
He had a little girl in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms

Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years down the road
Nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go

I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

[Left Is Write]

18. I was listening to it on my MP3 player earlier today, as loud as I could stand it.

I was definitely thinking of it in terms of Bush's America.

[sandnsea]

22. We need Obama to help the common man

Yes. We get what the song is about. It's the same now as it was then and we're going to get it right this time.

[TlalocW]

20. When it's Bruce, it apparently doesn't matter

Back in the early nineties, comedian Robert Wurl (sp?), who I only knew as the reporter working with Vicky Vale in the first Michael Keaton, "Batman," had a bit where he was talking about New Jersey wanting to replace its state's nation anthem with a Springsteen song because that's all they had going for them, and "Born to Run" was the leading contender even though, as Robert pointed out...

It had the word suicide in it, while most anthems don't
Had the line, "This town rips the bones from your back," which he said would make for interesting imagery on a flag
And then had the incredibly New Jersey-patriotic line, "We gotta get out while we're young"

It was a very amusing routine.

TlalocW

[LynneSin]

21. Bruce was not happy that Reagan used that song either

So we can take it back

[Berry Cool]

23. Reagan never used the song.

He just gave a speech in which he compared his message to the "message of hope" he said young people were listening to in Springsteen's music. Which proved he didn't get it. Springsteen soon made it clear that if Reagan thought all his songs were "messages of hope," he wasn't listening to the lyrics. He REFUSED to give permission to Reagan to use "Born in the U.S.A." so Reagan was stuck using other music.

[SoxFan]

24. Reagan tried to use "Pink Houses", too

John Mellencamp told him to pound sand.

[donco6]

25. Of course not.

We aren't stupid. We wave flags because we know that finally something different is going to happen. And it's OK to be proud of a changed country.