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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:04 PM
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Undecided voters
The deck is stacked against us.

This week has been fantastic for this progressive democratic voter. The speeches have been inspiring and riveting. Even though I would have liked to have heard a few more "blood-letting" speeches, I am more than pleased with our convention.

I am 100 % positive that NO freeper that listened or watched our convention has been swayed to "our" light. I imagine that the only reason they watch at all is to find talking points and look for division. Or, to be able to nod in agreement when Limpballs spits out his filth the next day.

I will not be able to watch the RNC next week. My blood pressure, although normal now, would shoot through the roof and my television would be in dire danger. Just the thought of listening to the lies and smears makes me ill. Even if I could or did listen, NOTHING they could say would sway my decision to vote for Barack and Joe. I suspect that 100% of the "true" DUers feel the same way.

Having decided that there are two groups of voters who already have their minds made up, that leaves a third group. The Undecideds.

Although I can't imagine WHY they are still undecided, they do exist. In fact, one of my co-workers told me this morning that she was in that very group. I suspect this group is too busy making a living, too lazy to do their homework or too apathetic to care. I'm sure there are other reasons.

My questions.

Will these undecided voters watch either convention? If they watch both, what will sway their vote. Will they be more likely to vote for the truth that the democrats tell or the lies that sound pretty to the electorate. Will they be more likely to listen to the eloquence of great speakers or the ravings of fear-spreading war mongers?

What frightens me is something that is completely outside our control. The media.

All week long we have either heard or heard about the skewed telecasts of CNN, FAUX and MS NBC. The only place you can hear the real speeches is on C-span. And how many undecideds do you know that listen to C-span? With every other outlet, the undecideds are more likely to hear a pontificating pundit giving their opinion than they are to hear the true speech. And, more than likely, that opinion is not one that we as progressives want those undecideds to hear.

So, the deck is stacked against us.

It means we must work ever harder to get the message out. We must convince those co-workers to NOT vote against their own interests. We must not be complacent. We must do all we can to make sure the voting count is accurate.

OUR future depends on this election. We MUST NOT let the corporate media win. Its OUR country, its OUR flag, its OUR government.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:12 PM
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1. Undecideds? Historically At Least 40 Percent Of Eligible Voters Don't Vote
The real key is getting the massive amount of people who don't vote, to vote. I think most Americans would agree with Democrats' platform. However, the GOP has been very effective in suppressing voters, as noted in the following article regarding Obama's voter registration efforts. Even a modest increase in voter turnout could help, not only Obama, but Democrats across the board.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080901/hayes

/snip

Given all this, one would think that a new voter approach would be a no-brainer for Democrats. But it turns out that transmuting nonvoters into voters requires a tremendous amount of painstaking labor and a massive volunteer mobilization that few campaigns have the financial or organizational resources to pull off. Indeed, before Iowa, old hands were scoffing at Obama's plan to rely on new voters, particularly the young. But youth turnout in the caucus doubled, and young voters turned out (perhaps for the first time in American history) at the same rate as senior citizens did. Clearly, the Obama campaign had figured something out that others hadn't.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:26 PM
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2. This time
The fact that it is more televised and that more undecideds at least SEE what we see instead of tuning in cable for post game results helps, as does the people who do watch enthusiastically going forth by word of mouth to counter the sour, insane MSM spin. We are more in the game this time and the general momentum is all for us and against McCain no matter the stodgy, sluggish numbers that show an even divide. The GOP has built the dam keeping up this enforced divide.

Like the Berlin Wall, it can fall in a day.
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