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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:48 PM
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McCain Advisor: There are no uninsured Americans
McCain Advisor: There are no uninsured Americans
by TexasTom
Wed Aug 27, 2008 at 07:14:53 PM PDT

How's this for another kick to working Americans who are struggling to get by? According to the guy that helped develop McCain's health care plan, no Americans should be considered uninsured.

His logic? Anyone who can get into a hospital emergency room is able to access health care, and therefore shouldn't be considered uninsured. His solution to the health insurance crisis is simply to define the problem away.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/27/22326/5277/...

The following is from today's Dallas Morning News (bolding is my own):

But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American even illegal aliens as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.

"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."


more at:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories...


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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:49 PM
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1. That's gonna leave a mark
NT
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:10 AM
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61. *Insert Joke About McCain Being Uninsured Here*
:)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:51 PM
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2. Yeah.. just changing the name should do the trick. What is this guy on? If I wasn't
the nice person I am, I would wish for him to suddenly find himself without insurance and really, really sick.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:58 PM
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18. Don't worry I already did....
Not everyone's a nice person.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:10 AM
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34. what the hell!?!?! How many people lately have DIED in emergency rooms?
This man needs a beating. Then HE can go to the emergency room.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:52 PM
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3. He's had one american call us a nation of whiners. Now this one is calling us fools
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:54 PM
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10. There's a good Obama commercial in there...nt
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:52 PM
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4. If you don't have insurance, the ER gives you shit...
or at least some do. I caught hell for going to the emergency room with no insurance after a car wreck back in '92.

They saw me, but talked to me like I was some kind of dog.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:36 AM
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35. They never treated me like a dog while I was in the ER
They left that to the collection agencies they turned my unpayable bills over to.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:52 PM
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5. With ALL due respect!
Fuck Mr. Goodman!

That's how you fix the problem...

Oh sure.

:eyes:

Just redefine it!

Arrogant bastard.


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:55 AM
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56. Seriously.
This is how these people think! Disgusting.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 PM
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6. What. A. Dipshit.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 PM
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7. Woohoo! Gather up your medical bills folks!
John Goodman
National Center for Policy Analysis
12770 Coit Rd., Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75251-1339

or

John Goodman
National Center for Policy Analysis
601 Pennsylvania Avenue
NW, Suite 900 South Building
Washington, DC 20004

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:53 PM
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8. Wow - they're SERIOUS about winning the Up-Is-Down-Ism Award.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:03 AM
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46. Up-is-down..... hmmmm....
no WONDER McMansions crashed so may planes back in the day!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:54 PM
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9. And ketchup is a vegetable; and since the Katrina victims were underprivileged
anyway, it worked out very well for them, being displaced.

Repukes are a HOOT....
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:02 PM
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23. And making hamburgers is a manufacturing job
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:47 AM
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41. No, they're a PUKE.
:puke:
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM
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11. I sometimes wonder what planet these individuals are currently living on....
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM by RollWithIt
It's like a bizarre Mars expedition policy, EVERYONE CAN GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BILL LATER.

Family gets $30,000 bill. Family goes bankrupt.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM
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12. If you cannot pay at the emergency room they gladly turn you over to a
collection agency....

been there, harrassed on the phone, etc etc etc.

McCain and his whole campaign are fucking idiots.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:56 PM
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13. This should be mailed to EVERY HOME IN AMERICA!
UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:57 PM
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14. so...letting things get bad enough
to need the emergency room...ay that works...let diabeties fester till your kindneys shut down...then you can go to the emergncy room and be thankfull to be in effect issured.

Sick freaks...its hard not to hate when things say things like that




What Would You Do If You Had Guaranteed Health Care?


Advertisements This was the Campaign for America's Future's Big Afternoon at the Big Tent. CAF took over the Digg Stage (the entire upstairs floor of The Big Tent) for a series of four panels addressing some of the Big Questions we wrestle with here.

One of the highlights for me was Rep. Jan Schakowsky's presentation, which was part of the second hour's health care panel. She cited an avalanche of statistics describing what condition our condition is in (and I don't need to tell you: it's not good). Two in particular leaped out at me. One (which I knew) is that an American dies due to lack of health care access every 30 seconds. The second (which I did not know) is that Americans are being driven into bankruptcy by health care costs at exactly the same rate. Sixty thousand deaths, sixty thousand bankruptcies, every single year.

Schakowsky also said that health care hasn't been a hot-button political issue to date because the political conventional wisdom says that nobody's ever lost an election due to their health care position. That, she said, needs to change -- starting with John McCain, whose plan will make things far worse than they are now (as if such a thing were possible).

As an American living in Canada, my permanent resident card (the Canadian version of a green card) entitles me to the services of that country's health care system. I also still see doctors in the US, even though I'm no longer insured there. As a participant in both systems, I've written at some length here and here about the myths Americans tell each other about the Canadian system. Right now, I think there's one important question we could ask Americans that would focus this debate, and take the conversation to the next level. It's this:

What would you do with your life if you never had to worry about health care again?

It's a hard thing for most Americans to imagine -- but it's odd how your vision of the future changes once you stretch your mind and see what it might be like.

Would you start a business of your own?

Go back to school to upgrade your skills, or retrain for an entirely new career?

Tell your toxic boss where to stick it, and find a job with reasonable hours and nice people?

Spend a few years at home with your kids?

Join the Peace Corps?

Move to a town that you really love?

Save some money up, and retire early?

I should probably warn you: You may get good and angry once you start to take stock of the huge trade-offs you've made over the years just to hold onto your health insurance. You may be even more angry when you realize that nobody else in the industrialized world has had to make those choices.

I live in a country where nobody is tied to a job they hate, or forced to give up important life opportunities just to hang onto a health care plan that may or may not even come through for them when they need it. Nobody ever declares bankruptcy because they can't pay a medical bill, either: most Canadians find this as mind-blowing as Americans seem to find the "What would you do...?" question. Almost nobody dies because they can't get care (and when it does happen, it's a cause for national outrage).

Countries with universal coverage free up their citizens to take advantage of personal development opportunities that, in the long run, stimulate the economy and create a more skilled, traveled, educated, and fulfilled workforce. Americans, on the other hand, routinely stay chained to jobs they hate -- and are forced to pass up on chances to expand their horizons and their fortunes -- because they can't afford to jeopardize their health care coverage.

more here: http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2008083526/what-wou ...

and http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/mythbusting-canadia ...

and http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/mythbusting-canadia ...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:37 AM
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50. Please Post This Separately So It Can Get the Recs It Deserves and Ornament the Greatest Page!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:46 AM
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66. I did .
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:57 PM
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15. Pathetic.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:58 PM
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16. Try the ER with lymphoma and see how far you get.
What a dumbass.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:58 PM
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17. Why doesn't he just call them "Bankrupts",
because that is what you will be if you
fall ill without insurance.

Many times, even WITH insurance.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:59 PM
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19. And another thing about his "plan"
McCain is going to consider all employer contributions to health care are going to be considered taxable income (and, for a family of four, that is average $12,500 per year). But, don't worry, you'll get a $2,500 tax credit.

MCCAIN SUCKS. SPREAD THE WORD!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:59 PM
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20. I hope Joe heard this. He'd be very interested in a discussion about it too. nt
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:00 PM
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21. The ER treatment IS NOT FREE - they will do everything they can to exact payment
And the bill will go in your name. So make no mistake about it.

And obviously, if you went to a regular doctor sooner, you would catch your illness before it becomes an emergency. Prevention really is cheaper.

As for goodmans comments, well, it's not even worth my time to address such stupidity. Really, I'd rather spend my time cleaning the catbox. At least something would be accomplished. I wish it was so easy to get rid of this stupid sh*t that we have to hear from the mcsame mouthpieces.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:58 AM
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49. Exactly!
I frigging hate it every time I hear people spout the free health care at the emergency room crap.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:01 PM
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22. McMoran
What an idjut
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:02 PM
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24. Pardon me one moment, please...
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Ok, carry on.

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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:03 PM
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25. Didn't we just hear about a mentally-handicapped man who died after waiting for 22 hours in an ER?
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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:03 PM
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26. Ask my son
He got hurt on a 4 wheeler and faces a $7000.00 bill they are already trying to collect! He has no healthcare. Nothing is free.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:11 PM
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27. Oh, now THERE'S a plan ...
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 11:14 PM by RoyGBiv
Got people without access to health care? No problem. Recategorize them. Now they're not uninsured. They still can't get decent health care, but they're not uninsured, so we can quit worrying about that problem.

This man is fucking clueless. Fucking clueless. Yeah, I've received "health care" from an emergency room when I had no money and no insurance, and I still have the fucking bill I'm paying off from three years ago for that *one fucking night* of panic, thinking I was dying. Eight-goddamned-thousand dollars of debt I have from that one night. And I was misdiagnosed. "No, no heart attack ... you can go home." Three years later, with insurance, the doctor asks, "When did you have your heart attack?" after looking at my EKG.

Well, apparently I had it that night I went to the "free" emergency room and ran up that 8,000 dollar bill and was told I was just fine.

Fuck him and the plane he crashed in on.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:46 AM
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40. It's not 'clueless' it's 'evil'. Let's not give him the benefit of assuming he's just an idiot.
He's an evil idiot.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:50 AM
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43. Good point ...

I need to remind myself of that.

I'm so accustomed to thinking of Dubya as just a clueless idiot that I forget sometimes that this is largely planned.

McCain knows better.

Kerry's speech tonight brought that point home.

That makes it worse.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:53 AM
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44. McCain does, and America will suffer unimaginably under his cruelty should he win.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:12 PM
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28. I went to the Dallas paper to read it for myself. And guess what? He really said it.
He really did. He said that emergency rooms are insurance.

He really can't distinguish between health care and cost insurance. The insurance is insurance that you won't go broke paying for healthcare.

These people really are this stupid.

It's simply amazing.

If they rig the election and take control, god help us all.
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CATagious Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:24 PM
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31. i did too! I thought maybe it was out of context or something...
I mean, he can't be that stupid can he??
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:17 PM
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29. We need to push this point, make the media pick it up!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:19 PM
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30. That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Next to the words "President Bush", of course.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:25 PM
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32. For 20 years now all I've seen is people who get hit by cars or have some kind of attack
on the sidewalk or on public transit begging bystanders NOT to call an ambulance (if they're conscious).

Because they know that trip to the ER just to get checked out just in case might lead to 5- or 6-digit debt they have no hope of ever paying off. If they're capable of staggering away, they will beg us not to bankrupt their families.

"No, I'm fine, really," they've said, with the faces covered in blood or their shirts covered in puke. And off they toddle, knowing there's no REAL care in this country for anyone who lives paycheck-to-paycheck (which is millions of us).

:puke:

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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:53 PM
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33. OMG - they are idiots
so what is their plan? Hand out dictionaries with their new definitions??

This is a glorious gaffe that will find its way into our Dem's speeches!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:40 AM
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36. Run with it, angry dems, run with it.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:43 AM
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37. Dear Mr. Goodman:
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any questions, you sack of shit?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:43 AM
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38. Only uninsurable ones
It's the ultimate safety net: death.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:44 AM
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39. great, let everyones condition get to critical before treatment, way to save money
:eyes:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:48 AM
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42. THe campaign will just let it pass- like every other outrage
and we'll live to regret it.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:57 AM
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45. They're "insured" all right.
Insured of being bankrupted by sky-high Emergency Room bills they can't pay.

People like him should be forced to pay an assholery tax to cover others' insurance. Voila! Problem solved.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:05 AM
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47. Wow! The Stupidity Is Breathtaking! Many Hospitals Will Just Close ER
The number of hospital emergency departments nationwide dropped to 3,833 in 2006 from 4,019 a decade earlier. This will lead to a continued decline in healthcare, and harm our National Security in the event of another terrorist attack or a natural disaster. Typical Republican policy-making.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/0...

/snip

Hospital emergency departments, typically the medical providers of last resort, are becoming the only option for insured as well as uninsured people who are unable to get care
elsewhere, leading to a record rise in emergency room visits over the past decade, a federal government report found.

Emergency room visits jumped more than 32 percent from 90.3 million in 1996 to 119 million in 2006, the most recent year statistics are available, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, a division of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"The uninsured have long been more frequent users of (emergency rooms). That's not new. What's new is the rise ... in frequency in visits, and that's occurring in the insured," said Dr. Stephen Pitts, author of the report and a CDC fellow who teaches emergency medicine at Emory University's School of Medicine.

* * *
The rise in emergency room visits comes at a time when the number of hospital emergency departments nationwide dropped to 3,833 in 2006 from 4,019 a decade earlier.

That decrease puts added pressure on the remaining emergency rooms. And California has the lowest percentage of emergency departments per capita - 6.12 per 1 million people, according to Dr. Billy Mallon, president of the California chapter of the American College of Emergency Physicians.

/snip

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&r...

/snip

At the same time, municipal ambulance crews operating under the 911 emergency telephone system were authorized last night by the city's Emergency Medical Service to countermand any ''inappropriate'' decision by a hospital to close its emergency room to cardiac cases or persons seriously injured.

To close an emergency room, a hospital must tell the city that it will not accept certain emergencies, usually cardiac cases. It normally does this before the next eight-hour ambulance shift, but can do so at any time. The names of the closed emergency rooms are broadcast by borough dispatchers to the appropriate ambulance units.

In some instances, hospitals have said their emergency rooms were open but closed them later. In that situation, an ambulance heading toward the hospital with an emergency case is diverted by radio to another hospital -usually the nearest one with an open emergency room.

/snip
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:54 AM
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48. Yeah. And there are no gays in Iran. nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:41 AM
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51. As a person who can't afford insurance, this REALLY pisses me off.
If I go to the ER, they can't treat me for cancer very readily. A whole lot of us are dead meat if we get sick and that's a fact. What a complete and total jerk. None of them "get it" until it happens to them. They might have insurance, but hit the lifetime max and suddenly they're uninsured and uninsurable. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:47 AM
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52. With Republican Health Care
you have three real choices: a bandaid, bankruptcy, or a bullet to your own head (provided you can afford your own gun).

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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:48 AM
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53. This is a joke right?
one of those satire articles?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:51 AM
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54. McMoreofthesame strikes again!
"I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room." ~ Dubya, July 10, 2007

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/2007071...

I despise these mofos. :mad:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:52 AM
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55. Yeah, let's see how that plays.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:55 AM
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57. I hope people like this die a slow and painful death without insurance.
I'd like to ask that asshole which emergency room will provide ongoing chemotherapy for a cancer patient. And if the government is indeed the payer of last resort whay are millions of Americans forced into bankruptcy over medical bills?

I HATE these selfish bastards with an intensity that is not healthy. Thank god I do not suffer from high blood pressure. That article would have cause me to have a stroke.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:58 AM
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58. Between that and picking lettuce for $50 an hour in Yuma...
we have all sorts of commercials we can air.
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Stern21 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:00 AM
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59. I have heard others spew this same crap.
Of course, they are in a position to never have to worry about their own health care.

W/O Insurance, most ERs will just put a bandage on the problem and get you out of there ASAP telling you to go you your personal physician as a follow up.

I pray that we can get things changed with the Obama administration, but it will be a rough row to hoe. I remember sixteen years ago when Hillary started working toward a universal healthcare system. There were so many advertisements in all forms of media being funded by the various PACs that would have to take their fingers out of the healthcare pie that you had to wonder just how much money they were really spending.

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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:08 AM
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60. WOW!! Finally a formula to eliminate WAR, CRIME and POVERTY!!
all we have to do is find news words and we can make ALL bad things go away!!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:12 AM
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62. this story needs to go out to everyone NOW!! If Americans knew what McCain ACTUALLY represents...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:16 AM
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63. What an idiot...no preventative care, overload the ER's w/minor
problems and just wait to die from some malady that could have been treated prior to becoming a serious emergency situation. Did this moron give up his insurance because he was already covered?

This is lunacy.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:27 AM
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64. There's the poster boy for (non-existent) Republican intelligence.
Uh, asswipe, it's not a question of GETTING medical care if you're uninsured,


IT'S PAYING FOR IT AFTERWARDS!!!


What a fucktard.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:30 AM
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65. Then let John McCain go for his cancer checkups and any necessary cancer treatment
at his local emergency room. Why should WE pay for his insurance if he's already "insured"?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:14 AM
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67. OUT. OF. TOUCH.
:puke:
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