Why are the MSNBC hosts getting so pissy at each other?

[bluestateguy]

Tweety Bird Matthews just snapped at Olbermann (I can't figure out why).

There was a blowup this morning between Scarborough and David Schuster.

Pat Buchanan and Rachael Maddow just mixed it up, and they look exasperated with each other.

[GrizzlyMan]

1. Tweety was pissed at KO

That was a nice little moment they had there. It's probably because they've been running their coverage from the middle of a mob.

[IndyOp]

6. I think they ought to tune down the crowd -- some audience participation is fine,

but I didn't think what I just saw was cool.

[IndyOp]

2. Change sucks. Olbermann and Maddow are in the ascendancy -

and enjoying "their" convention - and Tweety and Buchanan are feeling gut-punched.

[mod mom]

9. good insight, Indy.

[d_b]

3. I didn't catch the context either

something about waving hands...

[Epiphany4z]

4. I figure

the booze is flowing kinda freely at the big party....perhaps one or two are hung over...not to mention the long hours

[la la]

5. too much time together at a high altitude!

I just saw that, too, between tweety and keith---I though tweets was going to slug keith, and keith had this look on his face--like---what the hell?

they need an intervention!

heh heh

[IndianaGreen]

26. Don't downplay the effects of altitude

It always took me nearly a week to get totally acclimated to Denver's altitude, longer if I went to Georgetown or Conifer.

Tweety is suffering from oxygen deprivation. I wonder if he smokes.

[EV_Ares]

7. Well I think if we all had to be around Scarborough, we would get pissy too.

[Diane R]

8. I don't think he snapped at Olberman. I think he wanted to finish his thought before he 'wrapped up'

Matthews was really letting loose on the Clinton tactics. I think his earpiece was telling him to wrap up. I was really amazed, and impressd, when he insisted on finishing his thought.

[27inCali]

51. he was snapping at his producer

who was telling him in the earpiece to wrap the segment.

[Alexander]

10. Nothing new. William F. Buckley threatened to punch Gore Vidal at the 1968 DNC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

[ContinentalOp]

30. LOL, wow. Well, at least a talking head probably couldn't get away with calling a colleague "queer"

in this day and age. Other than that... no change.

[LSparkle]

11. Yeah, I caught that little bit between Tweety and KO ...

Maybe they're all staying in the same suite at the
hotel (cost cutting at GEM$NBC?). Or they learned
from Tweety's "Zell Miller moment" last time that
controversy equals press, ratings, internet talk,
etc. ... ???

OR MAYBE IT'S THE ALTITUDE! (I'm not saying that
completely as a joke -- if alcohol affects you more
in that elevation, then maybe they've all had too
much to drink ... or too little, fearing they'd get
too tipsy on camera, and now are fighting instead.)

[AnnieBW]

12. What did Keith Do?

Not talk about Hillary for a minute?

[marlakay]

13. used to be all repubs last 7 yrs, tide is slowly

changing....

[mzmolly]

14. Olbermann mocked Matthews for expressing his opinion on the Clinton speech. I have been a long time

fan of Olbermann, but his behavior is a bit unbecoming lately.

[KingOfLostSouls]

15. fuck 'em

they've earned our scorn.

[yourguide]

16. I agree

He continues to get more arrogant...and I am a huge fan but you can see it going to his head a bit...

[Berry Cool]

36. Wow, if I didn't know better

I'd think it was PUMA Night on this thread.

[yourguide]

54. Hahahahahaha.

Sorry, you have the wrong girl. No way, no how, no fucking puma. I loooooooooooooooove Olberman but he's gotten a bit too cutsie when it comes to mentioning and complimenting himself.

[AlCzervik]

17. Clinton spoke already?

[d_b]

18. no

[AlCzervik]

19. so why would Chris Matthews be expressing his opinion on a speech that hasn't been

spoken yet?

[d_b]

hype bs

[AlCzervik]

25. I don't blame KO at all, he should really shut it and wait for the speech.

[mzmolly]

33. They were analyzing what they felt would happen in the speech. It's fair

commentary. K.O. and Matthews had different opinions as to what might happen, however which might have spurred the snark.

[BidenDemocrat]

21. That bobble-head Olbermann is so arrogant.

I loved seeing Chris show his fighting style. It was reminiscent of Chris putting that Texas Repub in his place over the issue of what "appeasement" is. Matthews knows history, knows politics, and knows the blue-collar wide base of the party. Olbermann is nothing more than snarky remarks.

[mzmolly]

23. I really like KO, but his recent behavior is off putting.

Welcome :hi:

[Berry Cool]

38. Wow, it IS PUMA Night on this thread!

All the same negative memes about Olbermann as the PUMAs spew...he's too snarky, too arrogant, too negative...do I hear SEXIST???? :rofl:

[BidenDemocrat]

41. Looks like you have a habit of now knowing what you're talking about.

I voted for neither Hillary nor Barack in the primaries. Sorry!

[my3boyz]

47. Yeah the same Chris that said PA democrats would not support

Barack. The same Chris Matthews that said Barack did not have a shot against Hillary. Yeah, he really knows his politics.

[Debi]

45. I thought it was more about making Majority Leader Stenny Hoyer wait

while Matthews listened to himself blather....He needed to be shut down IMO.

[mzmolly]

46. Could be?

:shrug:

[Debi]

50. They cut over to Cong. Hoyer and then cut back to Matthews so he could

mouth off at Olberman about 'that's how I felt!!'...All I could think was, "God, I hope Hoyer didn't see or hear that he's got a hell of a lot more clout than Tweety". x(

[mzmolly]

52. That makes good sense. I had a tough time reconciling

my feelings about KO with what I thought occurred.

[RollWithIt]

20. Even though I'm watching PBS because they actually show the speakers.. I'll comment...

I find the open debates and arguments on MSNBC to be refreshing. They aren't a team, they're rivals of opinion, and they act that way.

[cyndensco]

29. A clash of egos...

[laureloak]

22. MSNBC coverage of convention is awful. Change to Cspan.

I'm really, really disappointed in MSNBC on this.

[Honeycombe8]

24. They're working VERY long hours and are very tired and traveled recently.

Even the old pro Andrea Mitchell called in sick for the earlier part of the day.

Imagine this: They all flew in, which is very tiring. Then almost immediately started broadcasting from teh convention even before it started. For the broadcast to start at a certain time, the crew and "cast" have to get there long before that time and go into makeup, and sit around and wait for camera setup and such. Then they're there all day....until about 2:00a.m. (although they work in shifts).

When you work those kinds of hours, you tend to get irritable and not quite yourself.

[mzmolly]

28. Good point. We spend much time with our co-workers and I've had issues

with mine from time to time. Even those who I consider friends. But, I will say it's unprofessional for both of them to engage in childish snits on the air.

[Medusa]

31. So have the other network anchors

but you don't see them getting into these kind of spats on air do you? There's no excuse for this kind of unprofessional behavior.

[Honeycombe8]

34. I don't know. I wasn't watching them. But I get it. You don't like Tweety 'cause he fussed at

little Keith. Is that it?

It was at least interesting. Tweety has a loud, in your face persona. I'm sure when he gets tired and overworked, he gets more so. If someone is solemn and laid back and quiet, I'm sure that person would tend to get quieter, the more tired he is.

Everyone's different. I didn't hear what Keith said to him. But Tweety is the one with seniority of the two. If KO insulted what Tweety had just said, Tweety had to say something back. He couldn't let it go. And he didn't call him a name or anything. It was just enough "more so" that it caught my attention from the magazine I was reading.

I didn't hear the spat with Morning Joe this morning, but that is Joe's personality. He has been rude and overbearing and trashy to everyone who staffs his show (I usu. watch his show in the mornings)...if they disagree with him. He'll actually come out and say, "IT'S MY SHOW."

[Mr_King]

27. I saw that too...

I think Rep. Hoyer was waiting for his interview to begin and the producers wanted Matthews to wrap it but he wanted to finish his monologe. Then Keith (knowing Hoyer had been waiting for a while) was trying to lighten the mood and kind of explain to Hoyer why he had to wait so long and Matthews thought Olbermann was making fun of his speech and didn't take what he had said seriously. Matthews took Keith's joke a little too seriously.

[IEatRepublicans]

32. Damn Chris sonned him on national TV lol....

I think Keith made a gesture with his hands that indicates Chris was talking too much and then when he introduced Steny Hoyer he said something to the effect that "we've ben running our mouths about what Hillary clinton might say".....

[me b zola]

35. I separate the two sets of clashing hosts

Scab & Schuster clash is because Scab loathes intellectuals who stand up for the truth. Scab has also had a notorious fit aimed at Rachel Maddow. Scab is unworthy of a political talk show, and I have come to the conclusion that msnbc's decision to hire Scab for that time slot was retaliation against those of us whom campaigned to get Imus (another ass) fired.

I really like and admire Olbermann and have similar feelings for Matthews. Both men are flawed, but both have done great things to promote truth in an atmosphere of media intimidation that they have operated under. I believe that their squabbles have more to do with office politics/alpha dog stuff--I really wish that they could find a peace between them.

[psychmommy]

44. schmo was becoming unhinged this morning.

i had to call my mom and tell her to watch. schmo is on the edge, he is like watching a train wreck about to happen. i have to tune in to watch him lose it a little at a time.

[Renew Deal]

37. It's a frat house over there.

And they keep trying to 1 up each other. Someone needs to bitch slap them.

[Berry Cool]

39. Nonsense. Nobody insulted anybody.

Not if Keith was just making some gently self-deprecating remark about how he and Tweety had rattled on long enough. If Tweety got pissed about him saying THAT, oh man...

[Hutzpa]

40. Must have missed it

can someone provide the transcript....

[SoCalDem]

42. Because they are all getting drowned in nasty emails

from disgruntled viewers.. Their coverage sucks.. They are not "covering" anything.. they are just sitting around interviewing each other...and the occasional republican stooge..

[nam78_two]

43. I can see why Rachel Maddow would snap at Buschanan.nt

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

48. Power vacuum when Russert died probably led to tense atmosphere

[Geek_Girl]

49. They like to make up drama

They think it's good for ratings.

[savistocate]

53. Going from msnbc to cspan back and forth best.

KO arrogant is silly..confident and should be. But all 4 or 5 do try to outdo and impress..each other.