Mark Halperin thinks McCain forgetting his houses is a big blow to.... Obama?

[Wetzelbill]

Huh?

Today's Snortin' Cokie Award for dumbest bit of Beltway inanity goes to Mark Halperin. Congratulations, Mark, that even impressed me and I've seen and heard a lot of stupid things in my life.

Honestly, I don't know where these clowns come up with this stuff. Halperin thinks it now opens the door for McCain to run a dirty campaign and he can now bring up Wright, Rezko, Ayers etc, and that he wasn't going to do that before, because we all know McCain is a stand up guy who wanted a clean campaign.

To quote Charlie Brown, "Good grief."

[Me.]

1. Consider The Source

As for Rezko etc., the DNC has warned them, you do that we'll go for Keating 5. Then there's Abramoff....

[Wetzelbill]

28. I think there is no doubt

And has been no doubt that that stuff will all come up. The only doubt might be if the Dems will hit back or not, and this time I think they will.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Halperin is nuts

People I've talked to can't believe how disconnected Gramps is.

I'd like to see a bumper sticker "Ask me how many houses I have"

[Wetzelbill]

29. that's great

lol.

[NightWatcher]

3. Halperin= a "journalist" who has lost cred

file him along with several others from Politico, CNN, Faux, Drudge, the Enquirer.......

[Wetzelbill]

20. Halperin's problem is he has no analytical ability

He's not a creative thinker at all. I think he's really out of his element when they have him give analysis. Like there are people who are good at it, even if I may not agree with them, like say Chris Matthews, for example. He's not bad, often wrong, but everybody gets political analysis wrong all the time, it's not an exact science. Halperin is really awful at it. Why? As I said, no real ability to think creatively, but also, Halperin lives in an echo chamber. All he does is hear his buddies talk and he is widely known for knowing polls up to the minute. But just because you can look at a poll doesn't mean you can actually make analysis. By contrast, somebody like Chuck Todd can think a little more creatively and objectively and doesn't always echo and rehash the same things over and over. Halperin just doesn't have the chops to do it. He'd be tood at overseeing people who do that sort of thing, and putting together general concepts, like say a bureau chief might be able to do, but his analytical abilities are nonexistent.

[JaneQPublic]

53. That was Halperin!?!?!?

I knew the name but not the face. So when I was surfed channels onto George Steph, I just figured he was a Repuke operative. Damn! He is by no means an unbiased reporter. He may as well be working for Faux News.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Snortin' Cokie

Snort.

[Wetzelbill]

9. Yup thats the term whenever some out of touch pundit

says something mind numbingly stupid, ala Cokie Roberts. :) It was quite a feat for Halperin to actually beat out Cokie this week for the term that was named for her. :)

[yourguide]

5. Halperin is the biggest tool in the shed.

[Wetzelbill]

31. well I hate to disagree

but Cokie Roberts is at least as bad. :)

[yourguide]

37. I stand corrected ;-)

[yourguide]

44. I take it back...

see this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6728798

[Wetzelbill]

47. oh I'm not going to argue

They both have colossally stupid moments. Although on this particular one Halperin took the lead idiot role.

[darius15]

6. Please

like McCain wasn't gonna bring up those things anyway

[Wetzelbill]

12. I know, how ridiculous, huh?

Since when has McCain been running a positive campaign this cycle? Because he says so? Yeah right. George S. brought up the "He'd rather lose a war" comment McCain made about Obama and Halperin stuttered around and became nonsensical, lol.

[jefferson_dem]

7. Brokaw said the kitchen table joke was "gratuitous" because...

he was a POW for five years and didn't know where his next meal would come from.

[blondeatlast]

10. Oh, fercryinoutloud. With that kind of "objectivity," McCain doesn't need to campaign.

:puke:

[Wetzelbill]

13. It's amazing to see the level that he doesn't have to campaign

He sort of gets out there and stumbles around and makes an ass out of himself, but it barely gets covered. The best thing McCain could do is shut up and run ads all the time then let the media love him up.

[Colobo]

11. Ridiculous.

[BeyondGeography]

15. He didn't

(Did he?)

[Thrill]

23. What does being a POW have to do with him being out of touch?

[BeyondGeography]

30. More bending over backwards to cover the asses of rich people

Remember when "fuck you money" used to mean fuck the boss? Now people like Brokaw use it to try to keep fucking the rest of us.

[yardwork]

25. You've got to be kidding! They worked in the POW thing with the houses?!

That has me laughing out loud. That's a parody of McCeited.

[Wetzelbill]

46. Brokaw said that some angry veteran sent him an email

And mentioned it. Of course, it might have come from John McCain's email address... well, the one Mark Salter runs for him.

[yardwork]

51. McCeited doesn't do email - he's still trying to figure out how his fax machine works.

It looks like we just lost the "veterans who own more than seven houses" voting bloc. How can we win now???!!!

[IndependentDem]

8. yep I heard this the other day too... and McFuckwad has 7 kitchen sinks to throw at Obama. n/t

[chitty]

14. ...

:banghead:

[Wetzelbill]

16. Ahhhh you're still in the banging your head against the wall phase

I envy you your youth. Now I'm so numbed by all this idiocy that about all I can do is make jokes about it. Kind of like how a mortician makes jokes about death etc. Tragic clown stuff.

[blondeatlast]

17. "Snortin' Cokie." That MUST go viral--and I can say I knew you when...

:rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

21. I hope so

I try to use it as often as possible now, lol.

[blogslut]

18. Even the rest of the panel thought he was full of hooey.

What a goon.

[Wetzelbill]

22. George S. looked perplexed

Like he wasn't sure if Halperin meant what he said, lol.

[donco6]

41. Cokie actually made some great points on that.

Totally dismissive of Halperin. Said most Americans DO equate houses with wealth, and that's that.

[earthside]

19. Idiotic

I've heard a lot of idiotic political analysis in my 35 years in politics ... but that just about has to take the cake.

Watching Halperin as he said it shows that what he wanted to do was posture as some kind of super smart, 'more incisive than anyone else' analyst.

The 'how many houses' incident is indeed a 'game changer' (to use a hackneyed phrase). From here on out McSame is the ultimate elitist, he is
Thurston Howell III.

McSame and Halperin can shout Rezko from now until election day and it will only be echoed by Keating 5 -- and that is the truth.

[Wetzelbill]

26. Halperin believes he is edgy and insightful

Like you said. Sometimes he stumbles into some interesting stuff, but more often than not he totally whiffs. And, boy, is he condescending. He was on Morning Joe deriding bloggers the other week as people with "Cheeto dust" on their fingers, sucking up to Scarborough because Joe first said that. He was talking about how bloggers always rip into him etc. Well they do that because he's flat goofy most of the time.

Do you remember when he wrote that op-ed last year about how he all of a sudden came to the conclusion that we should elect a president on issues, as opposed to how they perform on the campaign trail? He presented it like it was some great idea that only Mark Halperin came up with and he had to bestow this great gift upon us. Anybody with half a brain could look at that and go, "Duh!" That's Mark Halperin for you though.

[BumRushDaShow]

56. OMG

:spray:

When I read your post my coffee went flying!!!! :rofl:

I rarely watch the Sunday morning network snooze shows but after the Biden announcement, I decided to flip around and see what they had to say and stumbled upon the Obama hit squad featuring Halperin. I was actually shocked that of all people, Crackie Roberts actually tried to appear "balanced" and dismissed the crap coming out of Halperin's mouth. She even admitted that McLame's response to the house question really made him look old. I kept screaming "Keating 5" at the screen and it took Brazile much to long to break through Halperin's nonsense to finally say it... In fact, we all know there is so much muck that could be mined if someone would just throw it out there.... especially since McSnooze has now given the go-ahead for the Rove crew to dive into the gutter.

Anyway, the below is your fault!!! :rofl:



(I don't have photoshop nor am I normally a photoshopper, but I do have the gimp and had to do something when I saw the name "Thurston Howell III"...:P )

[TwilightGardener]

24. Was there ever a question that the GOP was going to use Rezko,etc.?

Of course not, they were just waiting for October. And fucking stupid to equate McLoon's massive gaffe and the resulting attacks based on it to "dirty campaigning"--the sentiment seems to be that anytime Obama attacks McNopoly on anything, it's "dirty" and jsutifies a nasty payback. I guess Obama isn't supposed to say anything about McNopoly at all, just talk about hope and his health care plan?

[Wetzelbill]

27. Well in case you haven noticed, John McCain was in a prison for 5 1/2 years

You can't say anything at all about him!

[TwilightGardener]

33. This is true. You can't even insult his taste in music (ABBA) without

basically mocking his POW experience, don'tcha know.

[Wetzelbill]

36. well yes, he loves ABBA because his musical tastes

stopped evolving when he was shot down and imprisoned. Even though his facorite song came out 8 years after this happened. :)

[TwilightGardener]

38. You can't hold a former POW to chronological correctness--he's

allowed to believe whatever he wants, he spent five years in a box, dammit!

[Wetzelbill]

39. 5 1/2 years!

Why do you hate the troops?

[donco6]

42. Did I mention he was a POW? n/t

[Wetzelbill]

48. And the original Maverick

You know, he has fought corruption in both parties. Including his own corruption.

[highplainsdem]

32. Wetzelbill, I don't like Halperin, but today's Rasmussen shows Housegate hasn't helped us yet.

The polls are essentially unchanged except for a 1-point increase (from 2 to 3 points) in Obama's lead over McCain when leaners are factored in. Without leaners, that lead's been at 3 points for a couple of days.

And this is days into Housegate, and with one day of people knowing for certain that Biden would be on the ticket, and two days of the MSM saying it was most likely going to be Biden (Rasmussen is a 3-day rolling average).

Even worse, McCain's favorable rating has been going up all week and is now 4 points higher than it was a week ago, and 2 points higher than Obama's favorable rating.

I said days ago that I thought the houses gaffe, with the GOP response mentioning Rezko, would probably be a wash, with neither party getting the advantage. Based on Rasmussen, it looks as though I was right about that.

It doesn't look as though the people who support McCain are bothered that he owns so many houses.

And, to be blunt, our attack on the GOP as the moneybags ticket doesn't seem to work with any voters who remember the Kerry/Edwards ticket from four years ago. GOP and undecided voters, anyway. Teresa Heinz Kerry is much wealthier than Cindy McCain. Our ticket is much less wealthy this time, and Biden is much less wealthy than many politicians. But we proved in 2004 that we don't see anything wrong with two very wealthy Democrats on the ticket.

Many DUers seemed to think Housegate would be a game changer. But you can't tell how voters overall are going to react to anything based on the DU echo chamber, or on the few talking heads like Olbermann who are strongly in favor of Obama. If DU was representative of voters overall, Bush would never have been elected, let alone re-elected, and this wouldn't be a close race. If you want to see how something is playing with voters, you need to check lots of news stories, too, and other sites.

Personally, I think Halperin is wrong that Housegate hurt Obama because of Rezko. The GOP has always been planning to go there, anyway.

And they'll get free attention on Rezko because a judge -- a Republican judge appointed by W, who once worked for Ken Starr's investigation of President Clinton -- moved the sentencing date back to exactly one week before the election. The headline of the story I saw on this first didn't mention the judge's political affiliation, let alone how partisan her background is, but I'd guessed that a Democratic judge wouldn't have moved the sentencing date to October 28, so I googled the judge's name, and I was right about how political she is.

[Wetzelbill]

34. I don't know that it will be so devastating to McCain

That it is a game changer, but it's too early to tell. These types of things spread and slowly take hold, so it may end up being something eventually. It may not either. But I don't think it's the end game, by any means. McCain is resilient, partly because the media gives him a pass and partly because he has created a compelling narrative for himself. More so than McCain actually being rich, is that his gaffe reinforces that he is out of touch, and that's something that's shaping up to be an issue that could be effective.

But what I was solely getting at in my post is that McCain's gaffe isn't something that is going to hurt Obama. And the GOP response with Rezko was ineffectual because they panicked and sent it out much earlier than planned. They did it at the end of the week, right before Obama selected Biden, and during the Olympics.

[blondeatlast]

35. We need to make the "Snortin' Cokie" awards a weekly thing; seriously.

The m$m is proving it already covets the Cokie with one pundit/anchor/politico'/reprter/commentator's attempts to better the last one in humiliating attempts to be so very clever, witty, and relevant.

I'm not sure there could be a more shining example of that than Halperin--but it's certainly something to aspire to; a shining beacon of slavish delusion desperately trying to hide under a cloak of "relevant" political "debate."

[Wetzelbill]

40. I should put something like that together, like the DUzys

[Malikshah]

43. My suggestion: Don't laugh, Halperin's not nuts. Attack. Verbally

smack the crap out of this pathetic loser. Shame him. Shun him. Make him wish to change his name and get plastic surgery.

By the end, one should have him in the corner, drooling and playing with brightly colored bits of string.

That is all.

:)

And have a dippy-dappy happy day.

[Hope And Change]

45. Please, Halperin is a right-wing nut.

[my3boyz]

49. Even that jerk George S. looked at him like he lost his mind when he said that. nt

[ncteechur]

50. When Obama wins, Halperin should have to just go away for good. That's all.

He is a ____head.

[FVZA_Colonel]

52. Like there was ever any question that they would use Rezko and Ayers.

And in fact, they already have. I think it's a good thing, because sandwiched inbetween the housing gaff and the Biden announcement and the Convention, they essentially have begun to blow their load early.

[Wetzelbill]

54. In Halperin world John McCain is an honorable man

who is against negative politics, but now he's forced to do so. I have to wonder if he forgot how McCain's campaign lied about The Big O when he cancelled his trip to the base last month, saying he did it because he couldn't bring in cameras. Not to honorable then, right?

[RayOfHope]

55. Dadsblacksheep thinks Mark Halperin has $hit for brains n/t

[MasonJar]

57. He's already running a dirty campaign, so what's new?

[Wetzelbill]

58. apparently Mark Halperin has been living under a rock

for the last several months.