Where is the list of 250+ "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?"

[gmaki]

I hear this repeated over and over that 250 plus have signed affidavits. I can find no list of these people on swiftvets.com.

Who are these men?

Where and when did they all serve?

Is there really even 250 of them?

Where are the affidavits that they signed?

Are they all the same affidavit?

Anyone know the answer? Have we already been down this road?

[King of New Orleans]

1. I've been looking for that myself

haven't found it.

[mctrotter5]

2. Damn, how many people can you get into about 3 Swift Boats,

they must have been Cruise ships. Those 250 Swift Boaters for "Truth" must have been damn good sailors to turn them around in those little canals. I also keep hearing that number from people like Laura L. Are their names and documents, of course, listed on their website.

[A_Possum]

3. LOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I Think The List Is Posted At The Post Office (nt)

[girl gone mad]

12. That or..

on the bathroom walls.

For a sleazy lie
1-800-SWIFTVETS

[Sparkly]

5. Good question -- in the book, I presumed

Isn't it?

The list could be a goldmine for researchers! (But who wants to buy that book?!)

[Wickerman]

7. If you can wiat it out it will be at your local thrift shop for 25 cents

faster than you can say, Like Father Like Son, One Term and Done.

[gmaki]

6. Whoops

I never know what belongs in what forum.

Anyway I bet this could turn up something interesting if someone investigated it. I would not be surprised if it turned out there really aren't 250.

And if there were I would love to see how their affidavits are worded especially with respect to what they "witnessed" or were "told about."

[Hepburn]

11. Ck out their website...

...I know it's a gagger to go there, but where are the 250 that supposedly are members? And how did they join this group?

http://www2.swiftvets.com/index.php

[Hepburn]

18. I am wondering....

....is there any way to get all of the affidavits from this slimey bunch? Anyone have any ideas?

[frylock]

8. kick

:kick:

[KelleyKramer]

9. Hmmm.. Very good question

No one seems to know, maybe you are onto something there.

[gmaki]

10. Is it in the book?

If it is in the book someone should know. Someone here has to have read it.

If not I guess I'll have to pick one up and take a look.

[girl gone mad]

13. Here you go..

Here's the list of 250 guys who aren't getting invited to any Kerry inauguration parties:

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/article.php?story=20040629220813790

[Hepburn]

14. Thanks.....I have been looking for this list! n/t

[girl gone mad]

16. I'd like to see..

how many of them were Bush donors or registered Republicans before joining this group.

I bet Bush has just as many connections to these extras as he does to the main players.

[radfringe]

19. good source for checking donors

http://www.opensecrets.org/

[girl gone mad]

20. There's another..

DB that seems to usually have more current information, but I can't rememer the web address. Open Secrets would be a good start, though.

I'll get my s.o. to write a quick script tomorrow so I won't have to enter each name in manually, unless there are any DU h4ck3rz still awake...

:)

[girl gone mad]

21. Look at this one for instance..

the second name on the list. Not exactly your everyday, average guy. If this is the same person, he's a major Republican contributor. He wrote one check for $15,000 to the RNC.

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?NumOfThou=0&txtName=alexander%2C+pat&txtState=%28all+states%29&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2004=Y&txt2002=Y&txt2000=Y&Order=N

Someone this partisan completely lacks credibility on the issue. I have a feeling that there are many others just like him on the list.

[gmaki]

23. So that's them then?

I count 271 signers on that page. from 242 on they listed under "Ex Officio" which while I know what it means, I am not sure what it means in this context.

Most names have asterisks next to them and that is noted "signed original letter, presented May 4, 2004," but the letter shown is dated May 4th. Why did that have to be noted?

And what does it mean about the names that are not asterisked? Did they not sign the letter dated May 4th?

[JLFinch]

15. Stop John O'Neill - This is how

John E. O'Neill
CLEMENTS O'NEILL PIERCE WILSON ET AL
1000 LOUISIANA ST STE 1800
HOUSTON, TX, 77002
phone [phone]

Bar Card Number: 1529750

John E. O'Neill, author of Unfit for Command, is an attorney licensed and practicing in Texas. Rumor has it he thinks he will be appointed a federal judge...let's not let that happen.

According to the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct:

Rule 8.02 Judicial and Legal Officials (a) A lawyer shall not make a statement that the lawyer knows to be false or with reckless disregard as to its truth or falsity concerning the *qualifications or integrity* of a judge, adjudicatory official or public legal officer, or of a *candidate for election* or appointment to judicial or legal office.

Rule 8.04 Misconduct (a) A lawyer shall not: (3) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;

The State Bar can sanction him, suspend his license or even DISBAR him.

PLEASE WRITE, FAX, FED EX THE TEXAS STATE BAR TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THESE VIOLATIONS - including specific examples would be best:

Texas State Bar Address

P.O. Box 12487
Austin, Texas 78711

1414 Colorado St.
Austin, TX 78701

Fax: [phone]

Telephone Numbers --- but writing is better

Toll Free: [phone]
Local: [phone]


FEEL FREE TO POST THIS EVERYWHERE AND E-MAIL IT EVERWHERE - I can't make a new thread but would be great if someone else would create this as a new thread.
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[Hepburn]

17. Wow....thanks for the info. Letter on its way! n/t

[newyawker99]

24. Hi JLFinch!!

Welcome to DU!! :tosat:

[Southern Patriot]

22. I thought that it was listed on their website but...

www.swiftvets.com only has their commercials.

Interesting because I heard an FNC report yesterday that supposedly recounted a call from Kerry to a swift boat vet. Apparently Kerry is calling up individual swift boat vets personally--- trying to recruit them to step forward, I'd guess.

Anyway, this vet supposedly told Kerry that he was of member of SBVT. Kerry supposedly asked him why he was doing that. The guy supposedly told Kerry that it was because of his testimony.

What I find intersting is that, if there were a list available, Kerry's people wouldn't have it and prevent such an awkward moment. Of course, an alternative explanation is that FNC is just lying.

I think that the last explanation is a pretty good possibility.