I'm now advocating that Hillary Clinton be veep

[mdmc]

If it is not Al Gore, Hillary Clinton would be our best shot of winning the national election.
If there is anyone else out there that can get the press and publicity needed to win, I don't know them.
My politics are grounded in the left. I support Nader and Dennis Kucinich. I didn't pick Hillary Clinton based on issues or politics. I based my support of her on the fact that she can help us win nationally. imho, of course.

Who else is backing Hillary Clinton for vice president?

[jakem]

1. No.

[greguganus]

2. Bill Clinton. n/t

[NightWatcher]

5. why not Chelsea? we've given the rest of the family a chance to govern?

[greguganus]

8. No. The OP asked who else is pulling for Hillary, so I answered with Bill. n/t

[KittyWampus]

3. who else? people with their heads up their asses. It will NEVER HAPPEN

but I suspect many here know that and post this crap to be shit-stirrers.

[mdmc]

11. you don't think she is on the short list?

My local npr station still has her in the running...

[babylonsister]

4. Nevah. nt

[JoshDem]

6. (I am--she is what is needed to turn this around!

[greguganus]

10. surprise surprise. n/t

[Egnever]

7. No

who care who you advocate for anyway?

[mdmc]

14. just puttin it out there

one man's thoughts...

Who do you like for veep?

[blm]

9. So, you believe the press can hold Dem coverage hostage till they pick a VP they want?

Essentially, that is what your post boils down to.

Why not back up HONEST Democrats with vigor and might instead of giving in to the scenario corpmedia wants so they can help Republicans steal another election?

[mdmc]

honesty is in the eye of the beholder

I weigh honesty with the ability to deliver.

I would love Bernie Saunders to be the veep, but that is just me. No one is more trust worthy then the right honorable Bernie.

Who would you like to see as veep?

[blm]

21. An open government Democrat who will NOT continue to protect the secrecy and privilege

of the Bushes and their cronies.

[mdmc]

24. I like Russ Feingold too

:patriot:

[blm]

29. Feingold has an OK record on open government matters, but, not a powerhouse on the issue.

He never pursued any court cases against those govt officials fighting exposure for their illegal operations.

[TheDebbieDee]

12. I agree with you - no one but Hillary or Bill Clinton could draw the

positive press that would pull the right-wing media from their touting of McCain, War Hero. I'm with you.........

But I will grow to love whomever it is that Obama picks as VP. Unless his pick is a repuke like Hagel.

[SeaLyons]

13. I totally back HRC for VP...

Hillary or Biden.....it's got to be one of them.

[adoraz]

15. No- we don't need another circus

the Hill and Bill show during the primaries was bad enough.

[The_Casual_Observer]

16. They aren't smart enough to do that.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

17. No thanks

Waaaay too much baggage.:thumbsdown:

[Lucinda]

18. There are others that could work, but IMO - O/HRC is the best choice.

[musicblind]

19. You are not alone. I also think Hillary would make a good VP

as would Biden. Kaine and Bayh will be disappointing choices if Obama goes that direction. I doubt he will.

[jobycom]

20. You are correct, and like any prophet, you will be crucified for your wisdom.

But at least you are correct. :)

[CampDem]

22. I agree

Obama/Clinton '08

:hi:

[mopinko]

23. say it isn't so, mdmc

not happening. just not happening.
look, these guys have worked their asses off to build brand obama. as david axelrod said- we have a tightly wrapped message. billary just will not, cannot, won't ever, fit into brand obama.
it is their most important decision. he isn't going to pick a best shot. he is going to nail down the brand. which, of course, is his best shot.

i am looking for someone completely out of the box, myself. if not al, rfk jr, or someone else from the environmental movement. billary will be offered a good job, but JUST CANNOT BE ON THE TICKET. it would be death to the brand. sudden death.

[mdmc]

26. I would love Gore

and their are plenty of liberals that I prefer.
But out of the chuckle-heads that are on the short list, only Hillary has been able to make a splash in the American psyche. All the others just faded away into nothing.

[mopinko]

28. i think just about any woman on the ticket would get "hill's" votes

it isn't hill herself so much as the concept of a woman president that they wanted.

but they are just not stupid enough to put someone with such high negatives on the ticket. just not.

[Lilith Velkor]

36. WRONG - women are not interchangeable

Name recognition counts more than "negatives," anyway.

I agree she won't be on the ticket, not because they are smart, but because they are gutless.

[mopinko]

39. all the hillary people i know voted on principle.

they may personally like and recognize her, but they voted on principle. a woman veep who is not some sort of ugly monster will be fine with most of those folks.
and i say that as an ardent feminist myself.

[Lilith Velkor]

44. On what principle?

"Any vagina will do" is hardly a principle.

[mopinko]

48. the principle of a woman president.

not any vagina, but most vaginas would do. certainly- all other things being roughly equal, vagina beats penis.
take all the umbrage you want at it, that is what my experience was. and believe me, as an early obama supporter, i heard all about it.

but, i'm done. i have kicked this thread more times than it deserves.

[Lilith Velkor]

53. "all other things being roughly equal"

In this case, they're not.

Your friends have a lot in common with the college lads I have known, and a little in common with my crusty ole biker friend, who doesn't even slightly mind if the vagina in question belongs to a monstrously ugly individual.

:)

[mopinko]

55. ya know

you don't know me or my friends. we will put our feminist credentials up against anyone.
just fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

nasty, this is just what made a lot of people who wanted a woman president to say, why this woman. she is just plain nasty, and so are her supporters.

i am done.

[Lilith Velkor]

56. Thanks for kicking this thread again.

:toast:

[Metric System]

42. Wow, how insulting. You think my support for Hillary is transferable to Sebelius just because they

are both women? It's just as silly, albeit more offensive, than those who think Bayh means something to Hillary supporters just because he supported her in the primaries.

[Jakes Progress]

25. Here in the tiny hole of the universe

that is DU, she has little support. But of course that's because we'd rather lose than support her.

In any other world, in any world where rational thought trumped gut hate and msm meme, Hillary would have been named weeks ago. If you look up the phrase "no-"brainer" in the dictionary there is a picture of Obama and Clinton at the inauguration. Out here in the world where we go from door to door registering voters and sit for hours folding flyers, we know it is going to be hard to beat the combination of America's short attention span and the gop lock on the media. My friends who campaigned for Obama in the primary but now actually work to get him elected don't claim the luxury that the keyboard warriors have, that of holding silly grudges to the point of losing the election.

Truly best scenario. Obama and Clinton announce that she was asked. She declines to become our most valuable asset in congress. They announce that together they sought the best person for the job and have prevailed upon Wes Clark to take the position. Cheers follow. Clark cleans the clock of any VP that nccain and name. Bill eats mccain for lunch every day and twice on Sunday. We get our country back.

Other scenarios are the product of fear and timidity, of cowardice and prejudice, of risking a loss for paltry reasons.

[SIMPLYB1980]

34. Wish I could K&R your post.

[burythehatchet]

49. And what does your therapist say about your hanging out here?

[Jakes Progress]

51. The closest I have to a therapist

would be my neighbor who is a therapist. He is also a good Democrat. He is a veteran worker for Democrats for the last thirty years. He says he only drops in on DU for a sense of the surreal when the real world of getting people elected gets him down. His ratio is about 100 hours of work to 1 of play on the boards. I think he has it about right.

[Upton]

27. I agree completely

at this point it's beginning to look like Obama needs Hillary. Otherwise we're going to lose.

[here_is_to_hope]

30. I knew I should not have sold you that herb....n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

31. Me

For pretty much the same reasons.

[cynatnite]

32. Agree...it's about winning...

and Hillary is a hell of a fighter. I hope he picks her, but I'm not holding my breath.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

33. The computer SAYS NO!

What part of NO do you not understand?

geez.. I'll retreat into my UK safe hamlet... I'll be safe until 6 am tomorrow morning when my wee Irish self sets upon the United States... please god, let there be some good telly when I land.

[JackORoses]

35. hey whatta ya know, another worthless thread

:puke:

[David Zephyr]

41. I can see a bead of nervous sweat dripping in your posts lately.

You really are worried that it will be Hillary, aren't you? Tsk.

You protest way too much and give yourself away.

[JackORoses]

43. not in the slightest. I just pity you for what you must be going through.

It's sad, really.

I hope you don't take it so badly that you go PUMA.

[mdmc]

54. and reply

:shrug:

[Spazito]

37. These threads are hilarious!

Advocate all you and the others want, it makes NO difference what you THINK should happen. It is already done and the odds are it ain't Hillery.

Do you really think posting an OP on DU has ANY effect on who becomes the VP, especially at the eleventh hour???? If you do, step away from the keyboard and re-acquaint yourself with the real world, it is the smart thing to do.

[David Zephyr]

38. Welcome, brave one and step up to the guillotine with me.

But you are right and Obama has chosen Hillary so your head will still be on your shoulders this weekend.

:hi:

[suston96]

40. No way. Giving up too many Senate Democrats especially if Obama appoints Biden Sec of State.....nt

[Lilith Velkor]

45. Delaware and NY both have Dem governors

who would appoint Democrats to replace them.

[flamingdem]

46. Send in the Puppies, where is the Puppies person?? !! nt

[butterfly77]

47. RepubliCONS

the same people who voted for her in the primaries..

[zulchzulu]

50. No. Fucking. Way. n/t

[paulk]

52. it's the obvious best ticket, at this point

In January I thought it would be Clinton/Obama, but the reverse accomplishes the same thing. It brings the two wings of the party together.

[mdmc]

57. might happen

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080822/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes

[RTBerry]

58. Agreed n/t