No Woman Will Have The Right To Choose - John McCain.com

[kevinmc]

According to John McCain’s own website, he will be running a presidency where women will not have the right to choose. In other words, if you want to have an abortion, it would be illegal.

johnmccain.com/ - Overturning Roe v. Wade

"John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench........"

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

1. Don't worry, it doesn't affect the rich

Only the poor will choose self-help abortions, or folklore abortions, or back-alley abortions.

The rich will just take a trip to France, or somewhere. With nobody the wiser.

Nothing to worry about, "my friends".

[mac56]

2. They've had seven years in which they could have overturned Roe v Wade.

Ran the executive, the judicial, and the legislative, as well as most of the state houses.

Hasn't been overturned. You know why?

They're never going to overturn it. Never even intended to. Never, never, never.

It's too useful as a wedge issue, too useful as red meat for the faithful.

The useful idiots whom they rely upon need Roe as a bogeyman to keep them in line and contributing.

(see also: catching Bin Laden)

[WinkyDink]

3. Exactly. 100% spot-on.

[cali]

4. bzzzt. wrong. first of all repukes have managed to hugely restrict

Roe over the last couple of decades. Secondly, sorry but the executive branch CANNOT, except through appointment of SC justices, overturn Roe. Nor can the the legislative branch except through passing a Constitutional amendment- and they never had near the majority to push that out to the states.

You're wrong that they don't intend to overturn it. Some repukes use the issue cynically, but others, and others with power, are absolutely true believers, as is a LARGE chunk of the repuke base.

Do you actually believe that Scalia, Alito and Thomas wouldn't overturn Roe? That's laughable. Scalia and Thomas have stated their positions and voted their positions. It's clear they'd overturn it. And likely Roberts and Alito would too.

And if Stevens or Ginsberg is replaced by a Scalia clone, you better believe that the likelihood of Roe being overturned is high.

[mac56]

6. "Restricted" ain't "overturned".

And yes, I was paying attention in high school civics. I know the legislative can't overturn anything.

You said it yourself: "others, and others with power, are absolutely true believers, as is a LARGE chunk of the repuke base."

So if Roe goes, then where does that base go?

Sorry, but if they were going to, they would have by now. I'm not buying into the hysteria.

Add on edit: It's easy for Scalia, Alito, and Thomas to talk smack if they know they'll never be called upon to make good.

[cali]

8. Let me put this in very simple language: The repukes haven't

had the opportunity to actually overturn Roe. If McCain appoints Justices in the mold of Scalia, they damn sure will have that opportunity. Will it be overturned in that case? There's a good chance of it.

And you don't know much about Scalia and Thomas, evidently. They don't just "talk smack". Their records on the SCOTUS make it clear what they'd do.

[mac56]

9. Condescension doesn't become you.

How can it possibly be said they haven't had the opportunity to overturn Roe? Who's held the keys to the entire store since 2001?

[cali]

11. The executive branch has zero power to overturn Roe

except for presidential appointments to the SCOTUS. There is still a slim pro-Roe majority on the court.

The legislative branch has zero power to overturn Roe except through a constitutional amendment, and no way did they have even close to the majority to achieve that- in fact they haven't even been in control of the Senate for eight years- or the House for that matter.

[mac56]

12. As noted above, I understand the role of the legislative.

"in fact they haven't even been in control of the Senate for eight years- or the House for that matter."

Then what was all our celebrating for, back in 2006? Taking a slim majority back, as I recall. Key word: "slim".

Sorry. I'm not convinced.

[Catch22Dem]

7. I won't give you the super rude "bzzzt" but you're wrong

They've restricted it, and they'll continue to write and re-write laws restricting Roe, but they won't overturn it until it is no longer useful as an issue to them. Roe is about politics, not morality.

[cali]

10. No. Roe is about politics to some and about "murder" to others.

And anyone who doesn't think that Roe won't be overturned by justices like Scalia just isn't paying close enough attention. If Stevens and Ginsberg are replaced by Scalia clones, the odds favor Roe being overturned.

A lot of experts believe that Roe is flawed- and just conservatives and repukes.

[liberal N proud]

5. I agree completely

I have said that for years

[high density]

13. That page is full of lots of red meat, plucked right from Bush '04

Compassion for embryos over people
Censorship is good
We will meddle in the affairs that go on in people's bedrooms
Stem cell research is bad
Killing people as a soldier in the US military serves the cause of human dignity