Republican Group - What ‘04 Presidential Election is REALLY About-READ!!

[GOPAgainstGW]

BraBC04, Inc. – 08.24.04, Draft
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What the '04 Presidential Election is REALLY about,
from an Anti-Bush/Cheney Republican Coalition’s Perspective

Question: - Does the public really want Bush-Cheney running this Country, in these extremely dangerous times, when the Bush-Cheney-GOP does highly illegal and fraudulent smear campaigns against John McCain in 2000 and now to John Kerry in 2004, with this Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), Bush-GOP fraud operation, using their Texas big money, right-wing fascist, “good ol’ boys” network?

Our key coalition members personally know George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Bob Perry, Harlan and Trammell Crow, John O’Neill, Merrie Spaeth, and most of the rest of the Bush-GOP-SBVT cartel! Some of our members even work in their organizations and business. Simply stated, they are very dangerous, very powerful, and scary lunatics that will stop at nothing for the pursuit of personal gains!

This is particularly true of Robert “Bob” J. Perry of Houston that gave $200,000 to O’Neill’s SBVT group, is a major contributor to the “H. W. Bush family political interests”, and is the largest private contributor to Republican House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, (Houston). In short, Perry is totally out-of-control crazy.

As to George W. Bush’s personal “war lord” and confidant Tom DeLay, well Tom has big problems due to a multi-count criminal grand jury investigation, that has issued closed to 100 subpoenas including many political contributors, and even to DeLay’s daughter.

We guess someone forgot to call Bob Perry and tell him that Federal investigators at Enron accidentally discovered documents that could send he and DeLay both to prison, before Perry decided to financially front the SBVT fraud which will also result in some “interesting people” being indicted before it’s all over.

Question: - Does the public want Bush-Cheney running this Country having invaded TWO Middle East countries, lying about their intent to the World, and starting a 50 year U.S.-Middle East Holy War according to intel experts around the World?

It was/is well understood by all the major international intel experts, that after the end of the Cold War, the U.S. unequivocally had to let the Middle East politically and strategically polarize, to avoid a Holy War of unimaginable consequences.

Christianity and Islam are the two largest religions in the World, with over 1 billion members “on each side”. Some religion experts state there are actually more practicing Muslims then Christians in the World.

The U.S. totally ignored this well understood M.E. Polarization Doctrine, and then Bush-Cheney took over TWO Middle East countries. What the public does not understand is that the WTC 9/11 disaster was a wake-up call over our Israel and Middle East polices. Unfortunately, Bush-Cheney didn’t get the message!

For the love and safety of this Country, we only hope the voters, come November, are not as uninformed on this most critical subject in this Nations history.

Seriously think about it - Why did the Islamic terrorists hit us on 9/11, when we had/have the most war hawkish Administration in power since World War II? Rest assured, it was not a coincidence. Rest assured, Bush-Cheney’s ignorance and pompous arrogance, put this Country right into the terrorists well planned trap.

This is what the 2004 Presidential Election is REALLY about. Everything else is a smoke screen. This is why a massive number of Republicans are voting against Bush-Cheney in November. Particularly, the ones that remember the 20 year war we had in Vietnam that killed and injured, all total, over 8 million people in Southeast Asia, and totally ripped this Country apart.

In closing, God bless you John O'Neill for putting Vietnam back on the "front burner", and reminding this Country of the horrible mistakes we made 1/3 of a century ago, and the horrible mistakes, that we the voting public, are allowing our leaders to make again!

Respectfully,

T.A.B

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* Beltway and Texas Republicans Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc. *
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PS: While Democrats may disagree, the reason Bill Clinton was elected in ’92 over H.W. Bush, was due to the strong anti-Bush Republican vote, which has been well researched and documented. We did it once, we have the money and power to do it again. Not, that Kerry-Edwards is going to need that much help in winning anyway.

PS-1: - Despicable Swift Boat Smears - Exposed for all to see, and reject
Minneapolis Star Tribune
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4939507.html

[liberal N proud]

1. Is this for real?

Not to question your post, because I think this speaks volumes. Just one of those I can't believe it things.
:bounce:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. I think you are right

Bushco has done nothing but strengthen and inflame the fundamentalist sects of Islam that would destroy the faith. And they've done it while at the same time inflaming and stengthening the fundamentalist whacko Christian sects (I say it that way because I know fundamentalist Christians who are sane) who don't care if the world is destroyed because they think it will lead to their interpretation of Revelations.

I think that the lies and the terrible things that have happened in the ME in our name will have repercussions for years to come. Like you, I fear that nuclear holocost is right around the corner, and that Bush/Cheney will lead us there if they are elected.

[Lefty Pragmatist]

3. Seems like a planted citation from a "wolf in the fold" group.

The right isn't the only side to play that little trick. In particular, the language usage sounds like something right off DU.

But the P.S. is brilliant. Attributing the Clinton victory to a division within the GOP camp seems like something only a righty inside baseball group would do. I think the writer tipped his hand, though, in saying "Democrats may disagree." Why would a GOP anti-Bush fragmentation grenade contain any reference whatever to a Democratic audience?

In short, too good to be true, but hell, circulate it anyway.

[Joanne98]

7. Actually, the 92' Clinton win could have been because of the Perot

voters. Alot of whom were Republicans. It would be great if that happened again. The convention lineup is a hard left into the middle and totally disses the fundie faction. We can dream.......

[GOPAgainstGW]

8. Your ignorance exceeds your ability to type

Read our posts at DU and then try to get educated on the well published facts of the Clinton-Bush 92 election so you don't embarrass yourself further in your posts.

Thanks

[GOPAgainstGW]

9. Lefty Pragmatist

My post was to Lefty Pragmatist

Re: Seems like a planted citation from a "wolf in the fold" group.

Thank you..........

[Blue_Roses]

13. I heard this as well about many GOPer's

voting for Clinton in '92. Not quite sure what to make of this, but I do agree with everything this poster says about this cartel.

[Guaranteed]

4. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say here...

Could you break it down into a sentence or two? :)

[devinsgram]

5. On Lynn Flanders show on Air America

On Saturday night, there were two republicans that basically said the same thing. They talked about how their party has been hi-jacked by the neo-cons and they are going to get their party back, no matter hard it is. They hated what * has done to this country and about how he has messed our standing in the rest of the world. They were both very unhappy.

One man said he was going to vote for Kerry, but he said if some could not bring themselves to vote for Kerry, just write their own names in. The other man said he would just stay home and not vote at all.

I think this just spectacular.

[GOPAgainstGW]

6. Just one of those I can't believe it things - Well Believe This

>>>>Not to question your post, because I think this speaks volumes. Just one of those I can't believe it things.

We have two people in our group that have worked with Middle East Diplomats for 25+ years. You listen to them talk about what is REALLY going on over in the Middle East and what the U.S. is up against, and it will scare the s—t out of you.

Let us remember that Bush-Cheney want to take out Iran and Syria. Our military is already testing Iran, by flying into their airspace to test their air defense system.

The Middle East diplomats and Royal Family members have feared a U.S. M.E. invasion and the start of an all out Holy War for decades. They feared it even worse than the U.S. and Russia nuking each other during the Cold War.

The terrorists have been awaiting for this for decades to have a reason to wipe this Country off the face of the planet, and recruit 100,000+ Islamic for “the cause”.

The Middle East has been a region of the World that has been fighting each other since before the birth of Christ! And, Bush-Cheney and this Country thinks they are going to fix this problem and stabilize the region so this Country can be assured of cheap oil to drive our 300hp pickup trucks. Righttttttt!

This is the reason the whole World has all run for cover when we went into Iraq. The only country that has any troops of size in Iraq with us is Britain with 9,000. And, they always do what we tell them, BUT they are scared s—tless over this deal too, and want to pull out of Iraq after the election. Tony Blair is just taking a beating over this deal in England.

Look don’t believe me/us. Do some research on the internet at the good public intel sites around the World, and read the Middle East (English version) newspapers on the WWW over the next month or so to get educated. It will be the smartest thing you ever did, trust me!

Maybe we should post a list of good links to the trusted public intelligence and Middle East sites to help everyone understand the serious problems we are in over taking over TWO Middle East Countries and not pulling in the reins on Israel.

If this would help, let us know. - NRK

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* Beltway Republicans Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc. *
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[NV1962]

15. "If this would help, let us know" - YES please!

Any and all combined availability of strong open source material is absolutely useful.

Unfortunately, too many people still have a gullible predisposition to what they believe are their government's 'good intentions.'

[farmbo]

10. Any background on the Perry/ Enron connection?

"... Federal investigators at Enron accidentally discovered documents that could send he and DeLay both to prison, before Perry decided to financially front the SBVT fraud which will also result in some “interesting people” being indicted before it’s all over...
<snip>

If there is a (criminal) connection to the Enron/ Lay investigations, it would be HUGE.

Perry's "free speech" motivation for bankrolling the Swiftboat Liars would be irreparably impugned, and his real motive made obvious:

He needs to get Bush re-elected by hook or crook or he's going to federal prison.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. If that stuff is really out there, and if it has substance,

you can bet on two things:

1)Kerry's got it
and
2) Kerry will use it.

[GOPAgainstGW]

17. No it all sealed.

Kerry doesn't have it. It's all sealed. Papa Bush cannot even get his hands on it because the Enron Fed Prosecutors are out of San Francisco
and the Feds know the Bush Family was using Enron for a business front operation.

[GOPAgainstGW]

12. Bush Has to Be Elected so He Can Do Prez Pardons for Texas Crooks

Good Job Farmbo!

That is what's going on.

This is why Ken Lay is jumping up and down to go to trial first. If he gets convicted this fall, Bush can pardon him before he leaves office in Jan 05. Lay and Papa Bush go way back.

Problem is on DeLay and Perry, when they get indicted on criminal charges it will take years to get it through trial. If Bush doesn't get re-elect they are screwed.

You think President Kerry is going to pardon these ahole after what they did to him. Rightttt!

Also under the new sentencing guidelines they have to do 85% of their sentence. So if they get 10 years, (which would be a minimum due to the number of counts we are hearing) none of that 1/3 crap on time served and out in 3 years. They do 8.5 years no discussion!

[Blue_Roses]

14. what do you think about the death of Cliff Baxter?

many of us here think he was murdered or "suicided"as we call it. I have never heard his family speak out about anything. That whole thing is just bizzare, considering how he was the only one at the time ready to talk. Too much of a coincidence. I wish they could prove this one way or the other.

[GOPAgainstGW]

16. No Cliff Shot Himself nothing else

The Houston criminal attorney in our cartel, (that knows O'Neill), knows this information for a fact. He has or knows many people inside that criminal Enron investigation. Also another one of our members husband is very well connected to many of the Enron execs.

Cliff just cracked. He was a good guy that caught up in the Enron fraud and he knew better.

There has been 4 executives in Houston in the last couple of years that have blown their brains out over corporate business problems. Houston is a very crazy place, trust me.

The CFO of El Paso Energy blew his brains out one Sunday after Church at his house, when all the fraud got exposed at his company. Hell most of it was not his fault but as CFO the rest of the company was trying to pin it on him. Guy had been with El Paso 25 years or something. Good guy too. This is the typical MO, like Cliff.

Same thing that everyone at Enron is doing to Andrew Fastow. He was CFO so he did all the fraud, no one else. It's all bullshite. Problem is that Fastow is a dumbass, and was in love with Jeffery Skilling. Hell even named his first kid Jeffery, lol.

Andy wasn't going to rat on Skilling, Lay et.al but the Feds had Andy on enough charges he was looking at life in prison, so he finally caved in. Hell he has now agreed to 10 years, and under all white collar sentencing guidlines of this type he has to serve 8.5 years. AND, that is if he helps get Skilling and Lay convicted, or they will add another 10-15 years on his sentence.

I forget the guy's name, at another Houston energy company, but he was a SVP and just got 25 years on fraud which under the 85% guidelines he had to do 22.5 years. Hell the guy was like 38 or something.

You can see why some people might think blowing their brains out is a better deal than the hell of criminal trials and long prison sentences.

I think a lot of people would pay money to see DeLay and Bob Perry shoot themselves, lol.

[Blue_Roses]

18. El Paso Energy

charged the highest rate in Texas in '99. Texas-New Mexico was second. We had Texas-New Mexico Power and they were robbing us blind with their rates. I protested and did some research on my own. Many, many, many of us were bitching and complaining but were stuck. If it wouldn't have been for Clinton ordering the ban on turning off the power during that sweltering hot summer, we would have died. We--along with MANY OTHERS--had to set up a serious payment plan to pay it off. It was RIDICULOUS. While sitting in their waiting room (went straight to the top to discuss this), I saw many distressed people over these high rates. Then we find out about what Enron was doing--no wonder :eyes:

[GOPAgainstGW]

19. Yelp Houston Big Business

is very corrupt. That is why all the energy companies moved their corp headquarters to Houston. Easier to commit crimes together.

[Carla in Ca]

20. Election Fraud

I hate to remind you that 3 of the 4 voting machine makers are Bush backers. Wasn't it Diebold president that has already promised Ohio to Bush? Bev at BBV can't even get a meeting with Sec of State Shelley of Ca because of his own legal problems. But I guess if the unthinkable happened, Bush winning Ca, we would come apart at the seams and demand another paper-ballot election.
Without paper, I fear Florida2000 will look like a picnic in comparison

[GOPAgainstGW]

21. I agree

the Bush-GOP will stop at nothing AND there is a good reason. Unfortunately not good enough to keep some Bush people out of jail.

I like how all these Bush-GOP clowns have forgotten that on white collar criminal crime the laws have changed and you have to do a minimum of 85% of your time, NOT 33% like it use to be.