"Democratic strategist" Hank Scheinkopf - WTF??

[MH1]

Just saw this loser on Lou Dobbs. (I'm not a regular Dobbs watcher but I do peek sometimes). This guy and this woman were ripping Obama and building up McCain, and some other guy was kinda weakly half-defending Obama. (They were each indicated only as "CNN Contributor" and I didn't really recognize any of them)

So I thought I had it figured out who was the token Democrat until Lou Dobbs called the guy who was ripping Obama - Hank Scheinkopf - a "Democratic strategist". WTF? So I turned off the b.s. - I'd had enough anyway - and came to the pc and googled Scheinkopf. Gee, wonder who he used to (?) work for?

:grr:

Did anyone else see that? Thoughts? Why does this guy still get to be called a "Democratic" strategist when he is clearly undermining the Democratic presidential nominee?

For those who didn't see hear is one thing I remember him saying (I'm too pissed to remember the rest): "the more people get to know about Obama the less they like him". Or words very much to that effect. With a smug little smirk. And he was nodding with that same smirk when the woman (clearly repuke) was bashing Obama.

:grr:

Any Hillary fans here please note: I haven't started any threads like this before. I just can't believe what I heard. I think she needs to call off her dogs and make sure they get the message. If that's not in her power than she needs to find someone who can. Because if Obama loses, people like me are going to remember who was knifing him in the back and where they came from.


Edit to add: Yeah I know it's Lou Dobbs and any anti-Bush stuff that he spews is all a set-up to bring in the disaffected when he openly endorses McCain; and of course he's going to put anti-Obama "Democrats" on his show. But Scheinkopf and his ilk need to be reined in or disowned. Just my opinion.

[Lucinda]

1. Looks like he did some work for Bills reelection 12 years ago...How is he involved with Hillary now?

[MH1]

3. google Hank Scheinkopf

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hank+Scheinkopf&btnG=Google+Search

4th from the top. "With Hillary consultant Hank Scheinkopf...."

[MH1]

4. And actually it's Sheinkopf - no c

but the reference to him as a Hillary consultant is correct. (it came up on my google because it was misspelled in one place; but refers to his consulting firm Sheinkopf Communications, which is also in many other links)

[Lucinda]

9. Yup. I knew the sp was incorrect..... Yahoo and Google both are kind enough to point it out

Didn't see anything about an official connection with Hillary...I stopped looking after a page or two of results though...

[southern_belle]

2. Yes, I saw him and wondered

:wtf: ??? :(

[Gabi Hayes]

5. if he hadn't been labelled a dem, you would have thought for CERTAIN

that he was a repug, he said, and repeated: the more people know about Obama, the LESS they like him!!!!

and this was in connection with the CORSI book! he didn't say ONE WORD about what a pile of filthy lies it was.....only that the book would HURT Obama.

he should NEVER EVER be allowed to speak as a democrat again....course that's why CNN has him on

of course

he also made the completely inane comment about how Obama didn't respond quickly enough, even though they responded the very next DAY with a 42 page document refuting the books myriad lies. Obama really needs to find a way to keep 'surrogates' like him off the air, or to PUBLICLY denounce them, and say that they will NEVER speak in their name. I dunno what good that'll do, because it's a no-win situation to have traitors like that speaking as dems. he was as bad as anything I've seen from Lieberman

[MH1]

7. And none of the weasels pointed out the reason for the Corsi book "sales"

I really thought he had to be a repug. Seriously before Dobbs called him a Dem strategist I was thinking "typical f---ing Dobbs, 2 somewhat competent repuke attack dogs, vs. a lame token Dem".

Do you know who the black guy was, who was weakly kinda half-ass defending Obama?

[Gabi Hayes]

12. he was the neutral guy, a reporter for the NY Daily News

that was a truly disgraceful segment. and that horrid woman....says that people have only heard POSITIVE comments about OBama from the media all these months, and they're interested to know more about him from sources other than the liberal media.

or something very close to that, the implication being that they need to know the 'truth' about Obama.

she also said they know all about McCain....sure they do. ask the average shlub how long LFSL stayed open because of McCain's influence, and how much MONEY that reprehensible scam cost US, the taxpayer

they have no clue. the media is even reporting it now as McCain having been 'cleared' of any wrongdoing

[AllentownJake]

6. What a ScheißeKopf

German for Shithead.

[MH1]

8. Exactly.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

25. Thought that was Scheisskopf?

Either way, it seems to apply to this DLC shithead.

[JI7]

10. he is a regular on Lou Dobbs and that's how he has always been

[MH1]

13. Guess I've missed those segments.

Or he was less obvious.

I can't stand much of Lou Dobbs so when I do peek, just to see what insanity he's spewing, or to enjoy his Bush-bashing (knowing it's all a setup), I don't stay on the channel for long.

Seriously the Democratic Party ought to figure out what to do about these assholes misusing the name. No Democrat should hire his firm. And it appears he's a pretty nasty guy at that:

http://www.getnj.com/onlygameintown/messages0305/8366.shtml

Looks like he would know smears.

[JI7]

18. i think because he was supporting Hillary

but now that he is bashing the GE Dem candidate you notice these things more.

it really exposes the phony Democrats.

[Ewellian]

11. I think it's highly unlikely

that Senator Clinton's campaign is paying his salary.

[MH1]

15. yes, NOW, but evidently she paid him at one time, AND

it appears his firm is based in New York. I'll bet she or her staff knows who is paying him.

[Ewellian]

19. apparently, plenty of people are paying him.

http://www.sheinkopf.com/hank.html

You're implying that he's secretly working for Hillary to destroy Obama's campaign?
hmm...how do I put this diplomatically?

You're nuts.

[MH1]

20. What's your explanation for why he is attacking Obama on Dobbs program?

I'm not saying she's paying him to do that. What I'm saying is that he's on her turf and she ought to be sending a message or two his way.

[Ewellian]

21. Hillary is a US Senator

who lost a presidential primary. It's not her job to keep track of what political pundits are saying on cable tv. Can you imagine how many political operatives that appear on these shows have some connection to the Clintons in their past? You can't possibly expect her to keep them all in line.

[SoCalDem]

14. Last week a show had two guests..right & left..

Wanna try & guess which one supported Obama & which one supported Mccain?

guests:

Bill Bennett
Pat Buchanan

[MH1]

16. Bennett and Buchanan are "right and left"?

Oh I see what you mean.

:banghead:

[SoxFan]

17. He was pwned on the Daily Show a few years ago

When the DSCC shoved Paul Hackett out of the Ohio senate race, Sheinkopf was the designated hack apologist, and was unintentionally hillarious.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=124252&title=couldnt-hackett

[MH1]

22. Thanks - That was spot on

Sheinkopf: candidate must fit into a "matrix"....{including} obeying his consultants.

Sigh.

[CreekDog]

24. while nobody should be "shoved" out of the race, Sherrod Brown is very progressive

possibly moreso than Paul Hackett was.

had he been running against Dianne Feinstein I would have more issues with this, but Sherrod Brown is one of the good guys.

[SoxFan]

26. It's not about Brown; I hate pressure politics

Hackett was in the race first. When Brown decided to run, the Beltway Democratic crowd cut off Hackett's funding and elbowed him out of the race. Few things piss me off more than party palookas trying to rig a race by choking off the fundraising stream.

The party tied the same thing in NH-01 in 2006, but the establishment candidate was crushed 2-1 in the primary, despite outspending his opponent by a 20-1 margin.

[iconicgnom]

27. Maybe. But from what I've seen Paul Hackett is a total standout speaker.

[Tutonic]

23. The curtain is almost set to come down on the long running

"Clinton" show. Then Hank, Lanny davis, Harold Ickes, PUMA and the other sycophants will be fully exposed as REpublican shills.

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[cali]

29. LOL!! You're voting for Nader?

Yes, Obama has at times, voted in ways I disagree with, but generally he has a strong voting record. His vote on FISA was disappointing. I strongly disagree with it.

Just out of curiosity, who did you support in the primary?

Oh, and welcome to DU. Your comment about how Obama is determined to turn this country into Soviet Russia is priceless.

[mmoffitt]

30. I wrote in Kucinich.

Thanks for the welcome.

I gave Ralph some money because I am tired of the One Party with Two Right Wings that the RNC and DNC has become. I really, really, really wish Feingold was running. But, he's probably too smart to want to have to follow the disaster of the last 8 years. Still, if/when Obama loses (and honestly, I share Bacevich's view that it really doesn't matter who wins this time), I hope Russ runs in 2012. I seriously think that too many Americans think all we need to do to fix our problems is elect "a new President" and everything will be fine. I don't buy it. I think whomever wins will be a 1-term only President.

Finally, I wasn't joking about Bolshevism. The policies pertaining Civil Liberties that we've seen in the past eight years (and which have been supported by Obama and EVERY turn) are much more akin to Bolshevik policies than American ones. I should know, I went the the Fourth grade in the Soviet Union. Trust me, you DO NOT want the State to be your Nanny.

[cali]

31. Obama has not supported

policies restricting civil liberties "at every turn" as you put it. That's patently untrue.

And Nader has long taken funds from the right wing. He's also irrelevant. I'm always intruigued by people who claim there's no difference between the repubs and dems. There are obvious and distinct differences. That you wrote in Kucinich and long for Feingold to run for prez is an example of the differences. Both are dems.

And just a helpful bit of advice. Advocating for third party candidates is against DU rules.

[mmoffitt]

32. And here I thought you were paying attention. ;0)

He had two distinct votes come up concerning the protection of civil liberties. In both cases, he voted against their protection. That is, by definition, voting against civil liberties at every opportunity. Or, colloquially, "at every turn." If you think there's really a difference, I suggest you read The Limits of Power by Andrew Bacevich.

Edit: I do wish Russ was running. The original Patriot Act passed the Senate 99 to 1. Guess who the "1" was? Also, please read his speech given on the Senate floor in October, 2001. That's right. One month after 9/11. Russ is the ONLY real Democrat in the Senate.

[cali]

33. what a crock, and thank you very much, I'm familiar with Feingold's October speech

in 2001 and perfectly cognizant that Feingold was the only nay vote on the Patriot Act. He's hardly the only real dem in the Senate. Kennedy, Leahy, Brown, etc. Hate to burst your purist bubble there, but Russ has also made some shitty votes- particularly re judicial appointments. And no I haven't read Bacevich's book- it's on my reading list, but that I haven't hardly points to ignorance.

[mmoffitt]

34. But Russ' votes as pertains the duties of the office of President...

were correct and proper 100% of the time. He is (among all elected officials) uniquely qualified to be President.

As far as "real Democrats" goes, on all substantive issues, you can't get a razor's edge between them. Be it continued funding for the Iraq War, the shredding of the Bill of Rights, legislation giving ever more power to the President, NAFTA, CAFTA, warrantless wiretapping, Telco immunity, Right to Work legislation, corporate welfare, human rights for corporations, NSA copying everything touching the Internet, rendition, War on Drugs, War on Terrorism, Iranian policy, etc. ad plenty-o-nausem, their differences are of degree only.

[jenmito]

35. Saying you're voting for Nader and not Obama is against DU rules.

Enjoy your stay-however short it may be. :hi:

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[Two Americas]

38. "purist"

It just amazes me that anyone objecting to the utter failure by Democratic party politicians to defend the Constitution or to stand up to extreme right wing tyranny earns them the label of "purist." How can anyone still make that attack on critics with a straight face?

"Oh you purists, defending the Bill of Rights and taking other 'fringe' and 'radical' positions, and then pouting and whining when you don't get 'your way' and threatening to leave. You are hurting 'us' and should shut up so 'we' can 'win.'"