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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:27 PM
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Hottest Intrade picks for VP now: Kerry and Gephardt
Not sure if anyone follows this but Kerry is suddenly red hot on intrade.com
I checked it last night on the new Kerry VP rumors and the bettors were not biting on Kerry then - he was at zero. Suddenly today, I guess thanks to Drudge, Kerry has sprung to life- he's still way down the list though at #25, but has a net change of close to +10. Next hottest item is Gephardt with a change of +4.9 in the 13th spot,
next hottest is Biden at +3.9 and now in the 4th position.

Here are the top contenders now and also those showing positive movement. Daschle is unchanged but in a respectable 6th spot. And note that Bayh is suddenly deflating big time. I can't format the numbers well here so it's probably best to just click the link,but here they CURRENTLY are:

1 . BAYH 65 27.8 28.8 1 27.9 3037 -3.1
2 . KAINE 2 11.1 15.0 23 11.0 3714 -1.9
3 . SEBELIUS 23 5.1 10.1 8 10.1 2158 -2.2
4 . BIDEN 50 20.0 25.0 21 20.0 1853 +3.9
5 . CLARK 2 14.1 19.9 2 14.1 2409 +0.6
6 . DASCHLE 5 1.5 10.0 45 0.7 122 0
....
13.GEPHARDT 22 2.1 5.9 1 9.9 942 +4.9
....
25.KERRY 915 10.0 13.9 1 13.9 495 +9.4

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/trading/t_index.jsp?selConID=409933 (You need to select Dem VP from the menu on that page)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:29 PM
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1. Kerry and Gephardt? Are we addicted to losing elections, or what?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 11:29 PM by wienerdoggie
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:20 AM
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11. No Shit (nt)
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:30 PM
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2. The Kerry surge is mostly due to sludge linking to this story --
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:31 PM
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3. I'm tellin' ya, I see either. Gephardt should have been Kerry's pick in 2004.
I was one who desperately and wrongly wanted Kerry to pick Edwards, who was a disastrous campaigner. Gephardt would have been tough.

Gephardt and Kerry are the wild cards. Maybe Kerry is a reach, but Dick Gephardt is not.

I think it could be him, under the radar.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:35 PM
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4. I have to agree on Gephardt '04
although Edward's young and bright persona were an undeniable asset and compliment to Kerry, it seems he could have been a little tougher, especially in his debate with Cheney. Gep definitely would have brought that to the table.
That said, I think Daschle makes the most sense and he is rightfully very high up now in the bidding.
He is geographically favorable and right in oh so many other ways.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:28 AM
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19. Gephardt was the guy that Kerry seemed most personally comfortable
with, and he genuinely respected him. (In an interview before the Iowa caucuses, he told a reporter that he (Kerry) had to drop out, he would support Gephardt. )
I wonder if Kerry himself regrets not choosing Gephardt in 2004 . . .
Well, easy to see things in hindsight. At the time, I think few people would have predicted that Edwards would have been as ineffective campaigner and debater as he turned out to be .
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:49 PM
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5. "Change We Can Believe In" ???
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:52 PM
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6. Hey- Kerry's been known to change
heh.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:02 AM
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7. Kidding aside, picking a candidate from the right wing of our party to
"balance" Obama, whose record -- despite what the corporate press might have you believe -- is hardly radical left, or picking up one of the past war horses of the party, would hardly seem like much of a change.

Whether fair or not, I can just hear McCain and the Republicans saying that the "Change We Can Believe In" looks ever so much like Democratic Party politics as usual.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:04 AM
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9. Kerry? Kerry is from the right wing of our party?
Where the hell do people get these ideas?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:25 AM
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13. Read again. There were two categories:
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 01:19 AM by Benhurst
candidates from our right wing and (Bingo!) past war horses of the party. As the defeated head of the ticket in 2004 -- even accepting the election was stolen-- Kerry definitely fits into the second category.

To the man on the street, Kerry would hardly personify "Change;" but would look more like the Democratic Party doing the same old thing at the same old stand, whether such a perception would be fair or not.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:26 AM
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18. Keeping good men and not discarding them would definitively be change in this party. NOt that it
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 08:30 AM by Mass
will happen, just that it would be a welcome change.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:30 AM
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20. what you said n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:04 AM
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8. Insane! Gephardt is the one Dem MOST responsible for the Iraq war.
That's taking a balanced ticket way too far.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:08 AM
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10. Gephardt is a big part of the reason George Bush is still in the White House today.
He played a big part in the assault on the best candidate in that race, the one who would have annihilated the Chimp.
The only good thing that came out of the Iowa caucus in 2004 is that Gephardt was finished. And lets leave it that way.
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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:24 AM
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12. Try This On For Size:
BILL MOYERS!
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:34 AM
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14. If we had to go with an old guy, he would be my choice.
I don't think we should take him off of PBS though. His show is one of the few good ones left.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:52 AM
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21. How about Bob Graham?
He has the experience, and the judgment to vote against the IWR. He could possibly even swing Florida in Obama's favor.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:31 PM
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23. Didn't Graham drop out of the '04 race due to health reasons?
I know he's got a chunk of cow heart in his chest. That, combined with his age, makes him less likely to stick around for 8 years.

I'd also like to know why Graham was meeting with Porter Goss (Bush/CIA flunkie) and Pakistani intelligence official/terrorist funder Mahmood Ahmed on the morning of 9-11-01. Ahmed was later accused of giving $100,000 to alleged 9-11 ringleader Mohammed Atta.

If two out of three guys at a breakfast meeting are traitorous scumbags, you gotta wonder what the motivations of the third one are. On any day, I'd be curious why he was meeting with them. On THAT day it just looks that much worse.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:46 AM
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15. and a couple of weeks ago it was Kaine and Bayh who were hot
that intrade thing is meaningless.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:57 AM
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16. Both bad choices in my opinion.
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JoshDem Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:21 AM
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17. Yes--both are awful choices
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:58 AM
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22. Kerry???? couldnt we find Dukakis or Mondale instead. Holy shit. Here's an idea, dont pick a loser
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