Jack Cafferty just made a very good comment!! Anyone watch him just now?

[nc4bo]

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/

Placing Hillary’s name in nomination?
Posted: 02:04 PM ET
Supporters want Hillary Clinton's name placed into nomination at the convention.
Supporters want Hillary Clinton's name placed into nomination at the convention.

FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

Some Hillary Clinton supporters want to make sure that the upcoming Democratic Convention doesn’t turn into a “coronation” of Barack Obama.

A humorless organization called “The Denver Group” ran an ad in a Capitol Hill newspaper demanding that Hillary’s name be placed in nomination at the convention and demanding that speeches be allowed in support of her nomination. They’re just full of demands.

And if they don’t get their way they are threatening a revolt. The ad says, “Will Howard Dean and the DNC turn the Democratic Party into the Boston Tea Party?” More demands. They demand a roll call vote on her nomination… presumably after those speeches they are demanding. This despite the fact that she lost and dropped out of the race months ago.

Of course, Clinton herself hasn’t ruled out the idea of placing her name in nomination – saying her supporters would experience a “catharsis” if their voices were heard. Another group of Clinton supporters is planning a march in Denver on the same day that she is expected to address the convention.

And there are Clinton delegates who have started collecting signatures to place Clinton’s name into nomination.

They say their effort is about respect. Baloney. In their heart of hearts, what they really want is to wrestle the nomination away from Barack Obama. They won’t be able to do it, but in the process of trying, they can go a long way toward diminishing the historic nature of Obama’s achievement, disrupting the convention, taking the spotlight away from the nominee, and slowing his momentum going into November. Is this what they call party unity?

I invite DU'ers to tell Jack what ya think? Responses will be aired later.

[me b zola]

1. He was spot on

Loves the Cafferty!

[eshfemme]

37. Yes, he has totally called it. All this demand for "respect" is just sophistry

for "we want a second chance because nothing's fair unless Hillary wins." These people just can't seem to grasp that Obama seriously pulled off such an epic feat of coming out of nowhere to defeat the Clinton machine.

So Jack's right and he's also kinda cutting through the crap, which is more than what most people in the MSM do.

[me b zola]

63. Jack has that way about him--"cutting through the crap"

He reminds me so much of the men of my fathers side of the family. They could see through bs, tell you to back the eff up if you were crossing a line (although I don't recall my father nor my uncles dropping the eff bomb, but you know what I mean), and always strove to do the right thing. Yeah, I really do respect Cafferty, even when I disagree with him.

[eshfemme]

69. It's just too bad that I hate Wolf Blitzen and can't watch CNN anymore because of him.

If only they'd let Jack do more. But they kinda treat him like the resident crazy person there at CNN. I wish he would move to a network that'd appreciate him more.

[me b zola]

80. LOL, I've only been watching cnn to avoid the Olympics

My cable system is set up that the tv I watch the most during the day I can't channel surf, so I tend to leave it on one station for long periods of time. Because of this I haven't been cutting from between msnbc and cnn, so I've been missing out on Cafferty. He's almost worth putting up with an hour of Wolf for--almost. :)

[LSparkle]

2. "A coronation ... of the guy who WON the primary ... "

Gotta love that Jack!

[Connie_Corleone]

3. It just makes me sick.

We have the first black nominee of a major party, and this historic moment is being tarnished by these wack-a-doodles who can't accept the fact that Hillary lost.

They really take the meaning of sore loser to a whole new level.

[LSparkle]

5. What is it about August and these anniversaries?

Who'd-a-thunk that August would not only be the
anniversary of the "I Have A Dream" speech but
also of women's suffrage? And I'm saying this
as an Obama supporter ... this makes it just
too EASY for Hillary supporters to try and steal
his thunder ... ???

[Eric J in MN]

4. I don't like Hillary Clinton's “catharsis” remark.

Her supporters got to express themselves by voting for her in the primaries.

She should have said that the race for the nomination is over and the convention is to show support for Obama.

[CTyankee]

14. God, I wish she had done that!

I voted for her but I'm really displeased with the whole "catharsis" thing. Time to put on your Big Girl Pants about this. We are not a bunch of pampered drama queens who demand special attention for the loss to Obama. Addressing media sexism is fine and should be done. But this just reeks of spoiled brattishness.

[27inCali]

18. The irony of these "supporters" actions

is that so much of their over-emotional whining is about sexism.

and yet, in their actions, totally reinforce one of the worst sexist stereotypes there is.

You know, the way that a woman chooses to accept a loss or disappointment with some dignity (as Clinton any many of her supporters have done) can go a long way in undermining that stereotype..

-and yet, here are all these ridiculous whiners, playing right into the sexism they so loudly claim to protest.

[CTyankee]

21. I hate to say it but it is a sense of entitlement to these people.

In some ways, I have a bit of it myself. But not with this. It is selfish and self centered and all about their being hurt and disappointed. As I said somewhere else on this board, I don't think that waitress in Des Moines is doing the whining...

[Arugula Latte]

34. Maybe we can hire therapists en masse and this (small) group of Hillary nuts who

who can't seem to grasp reality and feel like Hillary was preordained as the nominee can talk out their feelings during the convention.

:eyes:

[CTyankee]

49. Oh, wouldn't they LOVE that! No, we don't need to give them any more attention.

The entire WORLD has moved on. These people should go back to the country club and their tennis lessons. I've had experience with these people. They are in their bubble. Don't give them any more "therapy." They've already had more than their fair share of "tender loving care."

Ugh. Sick of them...

[1Hippiechick]

17. I don't think she knew she was being recorded...Have bookmarked a great transcript when they were

debating in which she said that (paraphrased) "whomever wins the party nomination should receive immediate backing and support from the entire party" (very loosely paraphrased.) The gist I got from that is that SHE was expecting to win and was laying down orders for Obama to have his supporters to lock-step behind HER.

It looks to me like she is so desperate to wrestle the nomination from Obama that she is willing to sacrifice the Party! Seems mighty risky to me for her to pull this stunt, IMO. If she splits the party further, on whose ticket will she run in the future? I sure as hell won't vote for her.

[roguevalley]

52. Clinton really, REALLY needs to smack them down. If this faulters

and Obama loses, which I cannot conceive, it will all fall on her back. She better clear her head and think about that. She WILL get the blame.

[Peacetrain]

22. That is exactly what my brother in South Dakota said

We were Obama, but my brother was a died in the wool Clinton supporter, and even when it was obvious that Obama had won, he said he just wanted to vote for her after the long haul. Two days later he was on the Obama express, and his comments have been the same as yours.

[CakeGrrl]

24. Exactly. Hillary is leaving the door wide open to these fanatical groups

By encouraging the notion that

1) They need their voices heard

2) They need catharsis

WTF does that mean, Hillary?

They voted like every other person who participated in the primaries. There was one winner. You don't see Edwards' or Kucinich's supporters demanding to be "heard" as if somehow their votes were ignored.

Despite the falsehood the Clinton campaign touted that FL and MI were "disenfranchisements", they were not. We've got memos to prove they pulled that stuff out of their collective ass.

Catharsis? That sounds like a high-maintenance requirement for some of these people to pick themselves up and get on with the general election.

:eyes:

[roguevalley]

51. carthasis implies weakness, emotional weakness, widdow poor

delicate woman stuff. I loathe that. Its so boomer-ish, in the worst way I might add.

RV, a boomer too.

[1Hippiechick]

83. Here's another definition of catharsis....

A purifying or figurative cleansing of the emotions, especially pity and fear, described by Aristotle as an effect of tragic drama on its audience.
A release of emotional tension, as after an overwhelming experience, that restores or refreshes the spirit.
Psychology.
A technique used to relieve tension and anxiety by bringing repressed feelings and fears to consciousness.
The therapeutic result of this process; abreaction.

[gateley]

6. "Is this what they call party unity?"

No, Jack, this is what they call Party Unity My Ass.

[LSparkle]

10. Yeah, those PUMA-ites have drunk the KKKarl KKKool-aid ...

DIVIDE and conquer ... avoid UNITY at all costs ...
triangulation is the key.

CONDUCT UNBECOMING.

[babylonsister]

7. Yes, I heard him. So much for unity. Why are they intent on

diminishing the historic nature of Obama’s achievement? As if we don't have enough problems with the rethugs? I think their actions will diminish Clinton.

[SoCalDem]

13. Because this was HER election, and in their eyes, he stole it from her

by winning ... She thought she would just coast to election, because it was her turn... Bob Dole thought it was his turn too..:)

[roguevalley]

53. its very republican to assume its 'your turn'. I cannot believe we've come to this.

[SoCalDem]

61. I was surprised at it too, when she as much as said it

:)

[Zhade]

72. They just can't accept that Obama won FAIR AND SQUARE.

They're further angered by knowing, deep down, that he doesn't want or need her on his ticket.

Fuck them. Their voices were heard in the primaries. Don't hear ME bitching that Kucinich didn't win, do you?

Idiots.

[AtomicKitten]

8. Their effort is predicated on an assload of narcissism & total lack of respect for Obama.

[WeDidIt]

9. If she is entered into nomination and Obama loses

it will be 100% Hillary Clinton's fault.

End. Of. Story.

[verges]

73. And she will be ranked right up there

with Ralph Nader. And won't be able to get elected Dogcatcher!

[rudy23]

11. The Hillary '12 campaign is already underway.

Not saying it's her fault, but her supporters should be called out for gunning for '12, too.

[roguevalley]

55. I won't vote for her. Read the memos and she can't manage her

own staff, she can't manage the country.

[SIMPLYB1980]

12. I like the Clintons and Obamas. n/t

[1Hippiechick]

15. I watch him in the a.m. while getting ready for work. LOVE him. n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. Hillary Clinton's posse sounds like a bunch of Gossip girls.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

19. That's exciting! Glad the 'disunited Dems' theme is getting big media play. It's sure to help!

[highplainsdem]

20. Clinton should have her name placed in nomination; her candidacy was also historic.

It's absurd to try to pretend that this wasn't a close primary race.

Cafferty's being paranoid and IMO he's misogynistic as well for not recognizing the historic nature of HRC's candidacy.

This IS about showing her the respect she deserves, and if it appears that the Obama campaign can't do that and can't cope with the fact that she very nearly won the nomination, and they would like to pretend she didn't nearly beat him, then THAT will divide the party.

[americanstranger]

25. 'Nearly won' = LOST.

She'd be getting a lot more respect if she told these PUMAs to STFU and GTFO, IMO.

- as

[polmaven]

36. And I think it is

near time that Senator Obama told some of his own "PUMA"'s to STFU before they do him more harm than good. Do you take that kind of attitude out into you neighborhoods?

[americanstranger]

41. What attitude?

No attitude about it. I'm sick of hearing how Obama and his supporters have to grovel and scrape to the person who came in second in the primary race, and getting oh-so-oblique little threats of how I'm 'going to do more harm than good.'

Y'know what? Go vote for McCain if it makes you believe you're proving a point.

Go ahead. If you let the actions of an anonymous poster on a message board dictate your voting preferences, you've got much bigger problems than my 'attitude.'

- as

[Name removed]

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[driver8]

94. Right on! I have had it with the PUMAs -- they are a bunch of sore losers.

My sister-in-law is one of them. Now, she is saying she is going to vote for McCain.

Go ahead -- throw away your vote and the future of our country because your candidate lost. But please don't call yourself a Democrat!

PUMA = People Up McCain's Ass

[roguevalley]

57. obama pumas. oy.

[polmaven]

77. PUMA stands for

"Party Unity My Ass, doesn't it? The handful of people here who are totally unable to stop the continuing bashing of Senator Clinton have absolutely no intention of allowing any kind of Party Unity.

Because they are a handful, they will have no more real effect on Senator Obama's campaign, but they have no reason to be putting down Clinton PUMAS. They may think Hillary Hating is more important than winning. but most of us here are adults who want to win this election, and are getting very, very sick of the childish behavior of this handful of obsessed people.

[Zhade]

78. Telling the truth about her isn't hating.

NT!

[AtomicKitten]

81. of course it isn't but it's a convenient way to dismiss you without listening to you

I do understand their resistance to the truth, however, having been in their shoes not too long ago. I literally had to go back and revisit a few positions I've held on issues regarding the Clintons, and damn what a revelation! I can see how their inability to play well with others within the party isn't new at all. And IMO their behavior in the primary is unforgivable. I don't hate them but I seriously doubt I will ever forgive them. My Irish grudge-holding DNA makes me inclined to guess never.

[gal]

91. Are you sick of the childish behavior by the obsessed Clinton fans to?

I think it's an honest question.

[DevonRex]

101. I think "fan" is a good word for them. They're obsessed. And it's

truly creepy. Grown women acting like schoolgirls with a crush. Wonder if they have Hillary posters on their bedroom walls.

The majority of people who voted for Hillary in the primaries are backing Obama now. They're good people and good democrats who know what's at stake in November.

But those other idiots are downright batshit crazy.

When my candidate bowed out in 2004 I shrugged my shoulders and got behind the nominee. I can't imagine EVER demanding "respect" or any other stupid thing for my candidate who lost. I can't imagine coming here and whining.

[polmaven]

102. As do I.

And I have called them on it as well. Most of them have been TSd now, however.

[driver8]

95. PUMAs are not interested in winning the election. They are only

interested in winning the election if Hillary is the candidate.

Please...I have read enough about the PUMAs to understand what they are about. They want one thing, and one thing only...for Hillary to be the candidate instead of Obama. If it means taking Obama down to accomplish this, they are fine with that.

I could not believe some of the comments I read from PUMAs regarding Obama. They come off as sore, bitter, losers. That is why people put them down. On top of that, many of them are saying that they would NEVER vote for Obama so they are going to vote for McCain.

Search for PUMAs on Youtube and you will see hundreds of videos of these people saying just that.

PUMAs stands for

People
Up
McCain's
Ass

[awoke_in_2003]

26. "Clinton should have her name placed in nomination"

Why? She conceded.

[my3boyz]

28. Please! She lost! Get over it! Obama gave her a speaking slot.

That is the only thing she deserves! She made history. He is letting her talk about it. He is letting her supporters cheer and have their moment. That should be the end of it.

[scheming daemons]

29. Get it through your thick skull.... she lost... she wont be VP... after she speaks on Tuesday night

...she will have no further role.

She is irrelevant.


GET. OVER. IT.


Move on.

[JackORoses]

40. Close doesn't count in Presidential Primaries.

Obama is the one and only winner.

Why don't you Hillarites have a little respect for the Democratic Nominee and stop making demands?

Hillary deserves no more frills than Kucinich or Dodd.

Talk about entitlement... even when the Clintons lose they expect to be the Belles of the Ball.

[highplainsdem]

50. Clinton got approximately as many votes as Obama in the primaries, and if he wants most of those

votes in the GE, he'd better unite the party.

He can't do that by appearing to show contempt for Clinton and her supporters.

Whether or not YOU like it, approximately as many Democrats DIDN'T want him to be the nominee as wanted him. What do you think all those votes for Clinton in the later primaries were about, despite all the media fawning over Obama?

So there's no point in any pretense that he was the overwhelming favorite of the party, during this primary race, because he wasn't. Not even close.

We have a divided party. I don't know whether Obama will have the sense to ask Clinton to be his running mate, but at this point I'd give McCain a better than 50% chance of winning if she isn't Obama's VP.

And ANYTHING that Obama can do to make Clinton's supporters feel he respects her and he's aware of their concerns should be done.

After all, dissing her and her supporters isn't going to mean one hell of a lot if he loses in November, is it?

[DevonRex]

58. Sorry, Obama ain't gonna kiss anybody's ass. And neither am I.

You're either a democrat or you're not. Period. Enough with the threats. Go vote for a goddamned republican.

[davidpdx]

86. Jen, you hit the nail on the head

Well put!

[DevonRex]

99. Thanks David. Few things in life are simple. But this is one of them.

And the time for wailing and gnashing of teeth is well past.

[polmaven]

104. Well, then,

I'm glad people who think like that are not decision makers in Senator IBM's campaign.

Ever hear of (I) voters? (U) voters? Disaffected (R) voters? A lot of those were allowed to vote in the primaries. ((I) and (U))

It's the attitude that we don't need those votes that would lose this in a minute. We need every vote we can get.

It isn't a question of "kissing ass". It's a question of respecting the accomplishments of each other.

[roguevalley]

59. I hate to tell you this but 99.9% of those voters moved on. The

one half of one percent having the hissy fit are a laugh. We aren't a divided party. You might want to make people think so but we aren't. If you can't lose with dignity, if you can't play fair and take your lumps, so what. Don't make anyone think that there is a movement here for this. There isn't. Just a bunch of losers who have no class squawking. Too bad. It makes women look bad.

[roseBudd]

70. Go read the PUMAPAC blog they are a bunch of low information fan girls

[DevonRex]

71. Yep. If they had not already moved on, they'd pay her campaign

debt. They haven't, so they're all supporting the candidate now.

[Diamonique]

76. He already has most of those votes.

It's only the minority of bitter-enders who are acting a fool, and making themselves AND HILLARY look bad.

[Zhade]

79. No. She got less. It is time for you to stop lying to yourself.

Obama has not shown one scintilla of contempt, even for those petulant little would-be vote-hostages who somehow think their tiny, insignificant self-deluded minority actually hold any sway whatsoever.

The vast majority of clinton's former supporters back Obama without feeling the need to stomp their feet and demand their voices be heard AGAIN and AGAIN until they get their way.

Let me break this to all such faux-victim whiners: Obama is highly unlikely to select for his VP anyone whom a majority of registered voters do not want on his ticket.

It's not insulting her to acknowledge that fact.

[JackORoses]

82. you greatly overestimate the number of people who are as spiteful as you

most of those 18 million had already accepted Obama long before the Primaries ended.

it's only the hard core fanatics who hold out... for what? an apology? a handout?

it seems the only thing that will satisfy you guys is to just hand the nomination to Hillary.

she ran a competitive race, but it was over in Wisconsin.
everything after that was just giving the dead-enders time to dig their trenches.

Obama does not have to cowtow to you or Hillary. She's damned lucky to be getting what she's getting after the way she acted in the Primaries.

when November has come and gone and Obama is President, what will you do with this faux-resentment?

[Number23]

89. I'm so sick of this mess I don't know what to do

He can't do that by appearing to show contempt for Clinton and her supporters.

How does giving her a speaking position on an historic day (when women were given the right to vote) and asking her to campaign with him show her contempt?? What in God's name are you talking about??

Whether or not YOU like it, approximately as many Democrats DIDN'T want him to be the nominee as wanted him.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?? All of your "approximates" do not hide the fact that he STILL WON. He could have won by 3 votes and it WOULD NOT MATTER. He would have STILL won. There can only be ONE winner! And your argument could just as easily be said about Hillary so what is your point??

And ANYTHING that Obama can do to make Clinton's supporters feel he respects her and he's aware of their concerns should be done.

He has praised her and her campaign when many feel her campaign deserves anything but praise. He has asked his supporters to help retire her campaign debt. He has given her a prime time speaking slot at what has to be THE event of the summer, if not the century. If this is not enough to "appease" Hillary's foolish supporters who refuse to accept that she has not won the nomination, WILL not win the nomination and will likely not be VP, then who's problem is that??

I am so sick of these people with their incessant demands and lack of grip on reality that I could scream. Literally SCREAM.

[gal]

92. It's not Obama dividing the party.

It's Hillary's fan club doing the damage. Whether the over whelming favorite or not he will be the nominee.
Everyone out there has two logical choices if they want a say for the next four years...I suggest they make one.

[polmaven]

103. You are so correct!

The haters in this forum really, truly believe that throwing a bone to Senator Clinton and her supporters is plenty. They really believe that, at this point, it is only she and her supporters who are responsible for dividing the party.

What is under consideration is NOT unusual, but because it involves the name Clinton, they are hyperventilating to the extreme. The hate they spew is so venomous.

Having her name placed in nomination, for the first ballot, with a symbolic "roll call", which will likely not take place in prime time, after which those delegates will vote for Senator Obama, is something that has been done before, and will be done again, even when the pledged delegate count has not been nearly as close as this was, and the campaigns not nearly as historic. All this proposal would do is recognize that.

Senators Obama and Clinton have been nothing if not gracious toward one another since the June 7 concession date. Why do you suppose so many here cannot put their animosity aside, for the sake of the Democratic Party and WINNING IN NOVEMBER?

I will TRUST the Obama campaign to know what is the best thing to do. They have been right so far. Why can't the haters here trust him as well?

[elehhhhna]

48. We don't have a convention in order to kiss the ass of the "nearly this, nearly that" LOSER. Hello?

[roguevalley]

56. no he's not mysogynist. He's actually speaking from reality here.

She had her chance and why the HELL should she get 'respect'. QUOTE YOURSELF: "pretend she didn't nearly beat him". By your own words you show she LOST. Really, you need to think about this. Divide the party. She runs the risk of being hated by the party if she fucks around and McCain gets in. How about that for 'respect'. When you lose, you leave. Or does that only apply to the eight other candidates that ran honorably and lost with dignity? How about Kucinich holding his breath until he turns blue? Oh right. He left with dignity. Too bad she can't. Read the memos. It was a near miss.

[Diamonique]

67. Sorry, but in actuality she never got close to winning.

She was done in March, and both she and her campaign staff knew it, according to their own memos.

But if she had quit back then, she wouldn't have gathered those "18 million voters" she's so fond of shouting about. She kept going, and kept misleading her supporters, so she could keep getting votes and try to use them as a hammer on the heads of the superdelegates. But the SDs weren't stupid enough to fall for it.

Here's a quote for part of Chuck Todd's latest article:

*************************

By the numbers, you can make that case and certainly she always had a “chance” at the nomination after Super Tuesday.

But what were those chances? Were they 50-50 or were they 10 percent?

By my calculation, her chances at the nomination were less than 25 percent. And after Feb. 19, those odds dropped to around 10 percent.

But the media never challenged the idea that Clinton had a real shot at the nomination, and in the end, that's been a disservice to her supporters.

Many of them bought into that idea of victory, and now, they're feeling mistreated by Obama's camp ahead of the convention.

The last 75 days of this primary campaign were a gift to Clinton. She had an opponent who didn’t want to fully engage with her, trying his best to have one foot in the general and one foot in the primary.

He stopped fully engaging Clinton, attacking only when necessary.

This allowed Clinton to revitalize her own profile a bit, which in turn helped her win more votes than she would have if Obama campaigned as hard as he did in November, January and February.

**********************************************

She ended up with numbers close to his only because she wouldn't get out when she should have. If they were still running now, she'd still be collecting votes... and she still wouldn't be close to winning.

It was clear early on that she was not going to win. She needs to get out there and start talking some sense to these women, and stop coddling them. This election is too important to this country for us to blow it trying to pacify a bunch of spoiled (and manipulated) grown women.

[faithfulcitizen]

68. historically awful.

[Zhade]

74. Only historic in this backward conservative country.

There are and have been women presidents in other countries looooooooooooong before this millionaire tried to bully her way into the nomination on her husband's name.

It's EMBARRASSING that her (and Obama's) campaigns are called historic - it only shows how far behind most of the rest of the world we really are!

In truth, there's nothing special about her campaign, except how dirty and dishonest she ran it.

[1Hippiechick]

85. If her name is place in nomination and Obama still wins, THAT is when the PUMAs will show their true

colors. Are the PUMAs willing to throw their support behind Obama as Hillary indicated in one of the debates early on that "whomever won the nomination should expect to have full party support"?
Will Hillary step up to the plate and admonish her supporters that it's over and now it's time for everyone to support Obama and the PARTY?

Hillary is on thin ice, and she is USING her supporters, thinking that none of this is going to come back on HER - you wait and see. If there is any fallout, she will put it off on her supporters and disavow having any role in this whole affair--that this whole process was for her SUPPORTERS. THEN, it will be thin ice AND a balancing act - trying to placate her fans AND the Dem Party, IMO. That's why I said originally that she is going to try to wrest the nomination from Obama--at all costs, it appears.

[Bobbie Jo]

23. No doubt whose "coronation" they're talking about here.

:eyes:

[PresidentObama]

27. Yawn n/t

[Stop Cornyn]

30. I couldn't possibly be more DONE with the Clintons. I can't support Hillary for anything ever.

[driver8]

96. Amen!! My feelings exactly! n/t

[polmaven]

105. Oh, my!

I wonder how she can possibly go on now! :cry:

[Stop Cornyn]

106. Hillary will go on as a loser who forfeited the respect of her Senate colleagues for her ambition.

[Fleshdancer]

31. WHO is the Denver Group???

I did a Google search for it but their "website" is a blog with all the posts posted by either Marc Rubin or Heidi Li Feldman. Neither names bring up any donor information from opensecrets.org.

Does anyone know?

On edit: I did a second attempt on OpenSecrets and finally found Heidi listed. Are these the only two associated with this "group" other than the people donating?

[truthN08]

32. All I want to know is

Why didn't Edwards supporters need a catharsis or Biden supporters,Richardson supporters ect... What's the deal with that?

It's like how kids are being raised now that there are no losers and EVERYONE gets a prize. Ummm no they don't. Almost doesn't count. Doesn't matter how close she came because "almost" is not enough obviously. So if Obama wins will they start referring to Senator Clinton as the "near president"? "almost president"?

I know disappointments sucks. Hell if Obama loses I KNOW I'll be VERY disappointed but I won't need a catharsis to get back to work and be okay. I doubt I'd carry on like this. I just don't understand it.

[Fleshdancer]

35. That baffles me too...

and that's why I'm trying to find a republican angle in all of this. Otherwise, it just can't wrap my head around it. :shrug:

Welcome to DU by the way! :hi:

[DevonRex]

65. Jack's right. It's not respect they want. It's to steal the nomination.

They're the very definition of "cult of personality."

[1Hippiechick]

87. It's called dirty politics. n/t

[roguevalley]

60. I can't wait for Denver. I can't wait for the 'parade' downtown and

the resultant dozen of people that show up. BRING IT ON! Let's get it over with.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

33. I've said it before

and I'll say it again: Jack needs his own show.:toast: :patriot:

[Stuckinthebush]

38. Jack is absolutely correct

Hillary and her surrogates can screw this up for the Democrats. My fear is that she doesn't care.

[bvar22]

39. Hillary supporters need a catharsis?? WTF?

If Hillary gets her catharsis, what about the Edwards supporters?
Surely they need a good catharsis.

And then there is Biden and Dodd....we can't ignore them. It won't be fair if their supporters don't get a catharsis.

Bill Richardson ran the most positive of Primary campaigns. Is it fair to leave his supporters out of the "catharsis" festival?

And then there was Gravel and Kucinich, the two most progressive candidates, the only two with enough courage to offer REAL solutions to our problems.
They were were pushed out of the Primaries by the Media.
If anybody's supporters deserve respect, reconition, and catharsis, it is the supporters of Gravel and Kucinich.

What the FUCK is it with Hillary's "supporters" that they can't just line up behind the nominee without all the drama, extortion, threats, and whiny demands? Nobody Else's supporters are causing friction, divisiveness, or making demands for special treatment. In fact, all the supporters for the other candidates have long ago lined up behind the Democratic nominee. Why do some Hillary supporters believe they are entitled to anything for losing the Democratic Primary?

[americanstranger]

43. Well said.

This is bullshit, and good on you for calling it what it is.

- as

[uponit7771]

46. WORD!!

[DevonRex]

66. They're like batshit crazy stalkers. Grown women shouldn't act like

that. And the ones that do don't deserve respect. Maybe some medication, but not respect.

[driver8]

97. The Hillary supporters seem to think that she should have been handed

the nomination on a silver platter.

She ran a horrible campaign and lost. They are having a hard time accepting that, and would rather blame it on the DNC and their "misogyny."

[polichick]

42. Yep, he got that right!

[joanski0]

44. The DLC just doesn't want to let go. n/t

[tbyg52]

45. >>Is this what they call party unity?

Of course not. Can you say "PUMA"?

[eshfemme]

47. Here's vid of Cafferty shredding McCain's maverick image in a twofer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyaArMOBg9s

[DevonRex]

54. Jack is spot on, as usual. I love that man, most days. nt

[Top Cat]

62. Hillary is straddling the fence

[Arugula Latte]

64. Very Clintonian of her, isn't it?

[davidpdx]

84. Cafferty makes a good observation

It's not about placing Hillary Clinton's name just to hear it, it's about taking the nomination at the last minute. They are fools to continue to think this will happen.

[DevonRex]

100. Yep. Anybody who believes it's not their real purpose is just

not paying attention.

[democracy1st]

88. K & R

[thoughtcrime1984]

90. Obama has won and will be the nominee

Move on, we have work to do to make Obama our President.

[gal]

93. I make this pledge...

From now on for every negative thing I see Clinton or her fans run on Obama I will go out and get one more volunteer to help elect him as our next president! I hope Ohio has enough people....

[mmonk]

98. As a delegate through the state level process who elected

the delegates who are going to Denver from my state, I'm glad I'm not going to the convention in Denver. These groups are going to make a mockery of the Democratic Party and fuel the media circus on non issues facing this country.