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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:59 PM
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I don't remember: did Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore speak during the conventions
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 02:00 PM by question everything
of 1992, 1996 and 2000?

Since when do spouses address a political convention?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:01 PM
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1. When they are former presidents. I think Carter should be allowed
to speak too.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:36 PM
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26. I think as a former Dem prez, it's his right to speak. nt
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:01 PM
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2. This has been called a change election
Maybe thi is part of that change.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:03 PM
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3. You realize President Clinton was a Democratic President right?
Why try and drum up some new argument?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:06 PM
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8. Seems to me that the OP is referring to Michelle Obama.
That would make more sense. Dont you think?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:33 PM
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23. Yup ! silly me, I read that soooo wrong.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:11 PM
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32. :)
Dont feel bad. Ive been wrong once before myself. :hi:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:09 PM
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10. Please read my question again: it is about the candidate's spouse
not about former presidents.

I don't remember Hillary and Tipper addressing the conventions that nominated their spouses. However Teresa Heinz Kerry did, and Michelle Obama will.

Of course both Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter should speak.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:32 PM
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22. DOH- I read that SOOOO wrong
My apologies- now I just feel silly !

I think Michelle speaking would be great !
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:55 PM
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30. you can look these things up.
Hillary spoke in 1996. Tipper intro'd Al in 2000. Pickles spoke at both the 2000 and 2004 repub conventions.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:14 PM
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33. Thank you. Did not remember.
Seems like we've gone a long way from the spouse just standing by her man (so far) looking with adoring eyes.

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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:04 PM
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4. They do address the conventions.
Theresa Kerry addressed the convention. I remember Tipper Gore addressing the convention.

I don't know about the republicans since I would never watch their convention.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:05 PM
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5. Do you take issue with Michelle speaking?
:shrug:
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:58 PM
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31. That's what it sounds like to me
:shrug:
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:05 PM
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6. Teresa Heinz Kerry did in 2004
It's pretty common actually.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:11 PM
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11. She did, and I think this was the first time
This is why asked about previous conventions.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:05 PM
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7. This is with regards to Michelle Obama speaking?
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 02:07 PM by indie_voter
I think because of the special circumstances (read: black family). they want to get her front and center and show she's not scary (like our stupid media would have the country believe, she's obviously not scary but a very smart, capable & interesting woman)?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:07 PM
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9. It would be nice to know exactly what you are referring to in your post.
I assume that you are commenting on the fact that Michelle Obama is speaking at the convention on Monday night. I don't have any problem with this.

http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/08/10/michelle-obama-hillary-clinton-to-open-democratic-convention/
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:14 PM
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13. Yes, I don't know why a spouse should address a convetnion
that is nominating her spouse. And, I thought it was strange when Teresa Heinz Kerry did the same in 2004.

This is why I was asking about Clinton and Gore.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:16 PM
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16. So much attention is now focused on the spouse and family of the candidates that I
don't find it strange at all that a spouse is chosen to give a convention speech.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:13 PM
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12. Yes they did. I remember Tipper speaking on Mental health.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:15 PM
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14. "They?" Did Hillary in 1992? 1996? (nt)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:24 PM
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19. Yes. I just don't remember what she spoke on. I am sure it can be "googled"
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:24 PM
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37. Hillary had recently published her book in 1996...
And the Republicans were criticizing it as "socialism", because according to them it took a family to raise a kid. Hillary however, spoke on the necessity of strong communities, strong education and health care, and she finished up by saying "yes, it does take a village".
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:16 PM
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15. Tipper did in 2000.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:17 PM
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17. Since THREE Clintons are speaking, why shouldn't Michelle?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:27 PM
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21. 3 Clintons aren't speaking. Chelsea is introing her mom as a former Presidential candidate, and Bill
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 02:27 PM by saracat
is a former 2 term President. Michelle will and should speak most other nominees spouses have.. I do not see the OP as an attack! It was a question. Chill out.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:34 PM
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25. Hillary, Chelsea, and Bill. Hmmm... doesn't that make 3? Plus, introducing someone does require
one to SPEAK.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:42 PM
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28. It isn't the same as making a major speech and The Clinton's are there is separate capacity's.
Hillary would likely NOT be speaking if she were there just as Senator or a former First lady but former presidential candidates do speak. Michelle ids speaking in the traditional role of the spouses nominee.Sounds like you think the Clinton's shouldn't be there. The thing is, they have contributed much and their place is assured.As is Michelle's.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:54 PM
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29. It's ridiculous to have Chelsea speak. Her mom is not the nominee. Typical Clinton hubris.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:19 PM
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35. She is introducing her mother for gods sake . No different then when JFK Jr. spoke
I think, I may be wrong , he introduced Ted but if he introduced someone else the idea is the same. Would you call that Kennedy hubris? Sheesh. Some folks hate the Clintons worse than freepers.
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Xenocrates Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:23 PM
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18. Eleanor Roosevelt did in 1940 (nm)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:34 PM
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24. FDR owed her Big Time after that one. Advantage, Eleanor.
Cleaning up after he'd ticked off other people, as usual.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:24 PM
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20. Coupla' things...
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 03:04 PM by MGKrebs
At first I responded as if this meant to question Hillary's speaking at the convention, since that is the general gist of so many posts around here- challenge everything Hillary, and since the O.P. doesn't specify what motivated the question. Which leads to the next thing: If this is connected to some other thread- so much so that the inspiration doesn't even need mentioning, why is it a new thread? And if there are 20 threads on the same subject, why? Does anybody bother to just keep one subject together anymore? Anybody who wants to write something just starts a new thread? I mean, why bother to even open a thread and look at it. Essentially every post is shown in the forum thread list. The only time it is necessary to respond in a thread is to K&R.

And why are we supposed to assume what the O.P. is talking about? Is it too much trouble to actually write it out? When did it become OK to assume that everybody reads virtually every thread (or at least their titles) and understands the hip "topic of the moment"? It's like litter. There's junk strewn everywhere. Are people posting new threads from their phones while waiting in line or something? Too much trouble to navigate around?

This is no way to have a discussion. This seems to be becoming more and more just a bunch of people posting new threads so they can see their name on the thread list more often. 15 minutes of fame, if you will. If some people post 17 threads about Wesley Clark, then some other people have to post 26 threads about Sebelius.

Maybe it's better. There isn't really any discussion to speak of, so we don't fight so much. In other words, it's just another social networking site. Hi. My name is Krebs and I think Bill Richardson RAWKS. :headbang:


I must be getting old and cranky.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:39 PM
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27. How quickly they forget!
Oh my, YES! Tipper Gore introduced her husband Al,
and he strode out, Bent her backwards, and planted
a huge, amourous smooch on her!

The crowd went wild, and it was the butt of jokes
for years!

But I'm looking forward to Stepford Wife Cindy Mc.
introducing her dear hubby John,
and seeing him struggle out with a walker..
and she pecks him on the cheek. Oh yes.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:15 PM
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34. Elizabeth Edwards spoke in 2004
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:21 PM
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36. I remember Hillary speak 1996... "Yes, it does take a village"... nt
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 06:21 PM by arcos
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