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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:39 AM
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Are we supporting Kerry on this site?
I am beginning to wonder with all of the questions and negative posts. We are supposed to be activists fighting for our candidate to win. We should be finding and promoting his strengths. He has them, plenty of them. He has courage. In every poll I see americans think he is more honest than Bush. He has a better plan for the economy, environment, health care.

What is wrong with those of you that pick on him? We only have two months left until the election and you are still picking this candidate apart!

I am semi new to this site, about 4 months so I don't know how you have been for years but it seems to me to really be promoting someone and fighting for them to win you need to unite together to remind others of his strengths and send that to the media.

If you are honestly asking because of repubs questions or something you hear on tv, try posting the question in a way that says how can we fight this. I see people asking that way. But the last few weeks I see more and more posts talking about and questioning his character! How can anyone even think of questioning Kerry when Bush is Bush??

I really love this site but it scares me to read so many posts asking about him. Do we want to win? We know the freepers are reading our posts. Is this what you want them to read? Us not sure of our candidate. NO NO NO NO NO

LET'S UNITE FOR KERRY AND BRING OUT ALL OF HIS POSITIVE TRAITS!!!

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:40 AM
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1. Ignore the naysayers ....
They occupy far less space than you can imagine ....
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:42 AM
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3. Thanks, its just bad enough hearing it on tv
without hearing it here to.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:41 AM
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2. .
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:51 PM
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25. "fewer". "..fewer jobs..."
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:51 PM by GAspnes
Sheesh. Let's be the party of correct English, at least.

(Go Kerry!)
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:42 AM
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4. Here's a post with some ammo
We should be very very proud of what our candidate did, putting himself on the line in order to help stop the killing of American soldiers in Vietnam.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:43 AM
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6. Doh, forgot link
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:42 AM
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5. Well said...
But I don't think constructive criticism is a bad thing.
Only the pod people Republicans keep thier mouths shut and pretend "the emperor has clothes on."
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:46 AM
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10. I hear what you are saying
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 11:48 AM by marlakay
but there is a time to criticize and a time to race for the finish line. Watch the olympics and the team sports, in the final parts of the race they aren't offering advice, they are fighting to win.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:43 AM
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7. We'll all be there in November
but we just aren't a lock-step kind of party. I think that's great. We can disagree and all come together when it counts - unlike the other side.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:44 AM
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8. Ignore them. Their criticism is more destructive than constructive,
despite their insistence otherwise.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:46 AM
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9. "Why do you hate America?"
When you say bad things about America and it's leadership, you are helping our enemies. They are paying attention. Do you want to help the bad guys? Well then stop saying bad things about US policy! LET'S UNITE AND ONLY TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVE!!!!

To me, your argument sounds very much like the above. Anyone criticizing the campaign doesn't want Kerry to win? What posts are you referring to questioning his character? Most of the stuff I've seen is questioning how the Kerry campaign is being run, not Kerry's character--except for the few diehards who still are offended by his IWR vote.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:48 AM
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11. Who cares about Dem candidates
This is the Chris Matthews monitoring and discussuion site.

One kind word from him means more to DU'ers than 25 Democratic victories.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:49 AM
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12. Herd of cats
Ignore my avatar for a moment.... That is the nature of the Democratic party. I don't think we are follow-the-crowd types. We can align ourselves along pragmatic issues and methods but our strength is our ability to think as individuals and in effect, to be a herd of cats.

Also, being a Democrat is about far more than just supporting one candidate for one office every four years.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:49 AM
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13. We're all "arm chair political strategists" here. Or at least a great
many are.

It's like watching your favorite football team and getting frustrated. You still root for your team in the end, but disagree with some of the play calling etc..

I understand your frustration, but there always has been much venting here. It's actually gotten much better since the Primaries ended.

:hi:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:15 PM
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21. Anyone here around during the primaries?
Glad you brought it up. There was so much fighting they had to start this forum to seperate it from discussion. This is where all the mud was slung. THis is where alot of resentments were started. Many DUers bailed out of this entire site because of the personal attacks that were launched not only against the candidates, but also DU members.I was so happy when they started this forum. Because GD was nothing but a slamfest.

I didn't get here because I am happy with the way things are going in this country. But if you can't vent here, then where the hell are you supposed to go? eh? I guess if you want pro Kerry Campaign 24/7, he has his own site, where I understand disagreement is not allowed. I'm a monthly donor, I think I can rant if I want.
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:50 AM
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14. Dissention is democracy n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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15. Most of us are.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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16. Give me a break
I've never seen such a pro-Kerry choir. Sorry if there appears to be too much independent thought and not all of it falls completely in line with the DNC, but that is to be expected when you get thousands of smart people in one place.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:07 PM
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19. Maybe too smart?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:04 PM
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17. Many are still hanging on to excess baggage from the primaries. Progress
to them is to stay focused on what might have been.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:06 PM
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18. Agree
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:09 PM by lizzy
You don't see Bush supporters doing that.
He could eat a baby on national TV, and his supporters will still be chanting of how honest, brave and decisive he is (IMO).
Today, I read in my local paper congratulations to Chimpy who took the high road by condoning the swift boat adds about Kerry.
Makes me want to puke.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:09 PM
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20. I am 100% behind Kerry/Edwards. Even tho he wasn't my candidate initially
He is now. I can't wait until he is addressed as "Mr. President," as he should be.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:17 PM
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22. I'm voting for Kerry, but if I have questions or concerns about him
I express them.

I think he's running an effective campaign, which I'm glad to see. That doesn't mean I don't have questions about corporate influence over him, his stand on Iraq, etc.

I actually wrote to Kerry back in late 2001 encouraging him to run for president (he sent me a nice handwritten note in response). I don't regret doing that, but since then I've had serious questions about him. Not enough to make me not support him now, but enough to make me believe that if (when?) he wins I'll be working with others to put pressure on his administration to represent what I believe in.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:30 PM
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23. Why not let him win first?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:16 PM
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26. I don't think I'm holding him back
And I'm pretty certain I'm going to have differences with a Kerry Administration; I already have differences with a Kerry campaign.

I also had differences with Dean and still volunteered (and organized) for him. I also believed that I would be involved in activism after the election to put pressure on a Dean Administration to represent my views (i.e., to keep the grassroots movement going and directing our energy at a President Dean).

Just because I disagree with a candidate on some issues doesn't mean I'm not letting him win (it didn't stop Clinton from winning twice). After the person does win, it's my responsibility as a citizen to advocate and agitate (in the best sense of that word) for my positions to be represented by him or her.
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TheRovingGourmet Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:25 PM
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27. We are incredibly important now; after the election we won't be.
I'm not saying pound on the guy, just make sure he is hearing what it will take to get the votes and what is expected of him once he is in office.

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:50 PM
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24. I'm voting for Kerry but don't like him
and don't trust him. Read my signature line as to why I'm voting for him.

Kerry's base is mostly ABB and the ABB coalition expires on Nov. 3, 2004.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:26 PM
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28. Not to toot my own horn
But hey my horn is really really Pro-Kerry.

One of my earliest post was do you think Kerry is a hunk. Most didn't. I, however, did once mention he "should watch the hair." (I don't like it when it gets too puffy,and I feel the same about my husband) My point here is that was my only criticism of the guy. Everyday he impresses me more.

I posted this a couple days ago

http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=5422

John Kerry is almost supernaturally fit for the role of President.

From the moment his navy-blue campaign bus arrived, Kerry, who's been blasted for being self-absorbed, was perfectly self-possessed--as if this were no less natural to him than blinking. With the crowd in a screaming frenzy, Kerry's calmly assured demeanor met its high expectations.

Kerry didn't falter once, undistracted by the sharpshooters on the building tops, the white-tuxedoed waiters in the press tent, the MTV News correspondents in their key-lime shirts, the hundreds of volunteers passing out water bottles, the national press pool rushing in with laptops and cell phones, or the fifty thousand people who waited for hours under the white sun to hear a stock speech.

With the hopes of millions on his back, after a 3,500-mile campaign tour, this exhausted 60-year-old man could--by sheer presence alone--make people believe he could put their country back on track.



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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:29 PM
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29. so..how are things in Stepford? n/t
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