Hillary: I will not Rule Out my Named Being placed in Nomination

[SuperTrouper]

alongside Barack Obama's. Thuis was announced by Mike Barnicle at Hardball (MSNBC) She also wants her delegates to be recognized at the Convention. This evidently was said by the New York Senator at a fundraiser last Thursday. Dee Dee Myers is trying to do damage control at MSNBC Hardball.

[elehhhhna]

1. her & newt gingrich

dream on

[musicblind]

2. Do you have any kind of link for this or is it only some person claiming it on Hardball? n/t

[SuperTrouper]

5. Mike Barnicle just read "latest breaking news out of the wires"

[TheBigotBasher]

90. Numerous articles on

Nothalfbigoted, including an attempt to further wind up Hillary supporters, which is so obvious it is laughable. They plan to present a series of proposals at the Howard Dean platform meeting on Saturday "from Hillary supporters". These proposals are so stupid that they will be laughed at (they include introducing the draft).

Hillary needs to (I hoped does)recognise that they do not work for her.

[Metric System]

3. Good to hear. She deserves to have her name placed in nomination just like other candidates in the

past.

[Renew Deal]

10. Your memory of the past isn't too good.

At least the recent past.

[me b zola]

38. Her and her husband need to be shown the door

Are you aware that we are attempting to elect a Democrat to the WH? Jesus, snap out of it.

[Metric System]

49. Shown the door? Well, don't hold back. Let all the hatred out. We all know it's still there. It's

funny we Hillary supporters have been told to "get over it" and many of us have come around to supporting Obama, but it's very evident around here that Obama supporters still haven't gotten over the primaries.

[me b zola]

76. I have held back!

For as much racism and undermining crap thrown at our nominee that took place while Hillary pretended to be still a viable candidate, I was angry, but I held back.

Then, after Hillary gallivanted to Puerto Rico--even though she had already lost and now has the freaking temerity to stomp her feet because supporters of the Democratic nominee don't want to pay for the drinking and dancing in the streets of Puerto Rico by her and her staff even though they already knew that she had lost--I held back with my utter contempt for what I knew would be a Clinton assault at the convention.

Well, now it seems to be upon us, this egotistic attack upon the Democratic party by the Clintons. Well, fuck them and anyone else who defends their actions.

I WANT THE DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE--DO YOU FREAKING GET IT???

[Metric System]

82. Get over it. As for the destructive racism allegation, look no further than Jesse Jackson Jr's

comments right after NH and BEFORE SC when he questioned why Hillary never shed tears for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. As the Obama campaign's co-chair he knew exactly what he was doing. THAT is when race was first injected into the campaign.

[me b zola]

101. That is arguably the sickest part of this

Good progressives who before Hillary's campaign would have screamed right along with me about her campaign's call to reach racist voters. Now, some of you have seemed to misplace your mind along with your soul.

Get over it? Not in this life time. Thanks for helping out rush & the gop, I'm sure they appreciate you. :eyes:

[dionysus]

157. oh damn...

:thumbsup:

[Indenturedebtor]

127. Many people who won't be voting for Obama haven't gotten over it

I for one remember where all of this BS about Obama being a terrorist manchurian candidate and whatnot got started.

The filth they threw out is still haunting the campaign.

Seat her delegates, whatever, but I swear I'll pull out half my hair if she's on the ticket.

[Phx_Dem]

119. Thank you. Well said. n/t

[ObamaIL]

148. Barred Entry wouldn't hurt my feelings

[Whisp]

4. I thot there was a story a couple weeks ago of just the opposite...

time will tell.

[highplainsdem]

56. I debunked that NY Daily News story, which was based on one anonymous source, and which

buried what an identified Clinton spokeswoman said about no decision having been made. That story said the opposite of what Clinton had told her supporters at a fundraiser just the day before. She wants their voices to be heard. There was a story about that, and video, and TheHill.com.

Here's the link to the original topic, which had a subject line about something else she'd said at the fundraiser

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6574107

but I also posted about it in one of the topics about the NY Daily News story.

[Zhade]

155. Their voices WERE heard. There just weren't enough of them to win her the nomination.

NT!

[Thrill]

6. Yup. Its all over the news now.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5528104&page=1

[SuperTrouper]

11. Thank you for the link.

It is quite a reversal and this will not sit well with Obama supporters. As much as I love Hillary Clinton, (coupled with Bill's non-endorsement of Obama) I now think that her chances at VP are now officially dead. :-(

[me b zola]

47. Not sit well with Obama supporters?

How about with Democrats?

I WANT A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

I'm sick of the Clinton's undermining efforts. :grr: :nuke: :argh:

[beachmom]

23. That is pathetic. I still remember reading a poignant diary by a Dean

supporter, who really wanted to cast his ballot for Dean at the convention. But he didn't on account of Dean's leadership who told his delegates to vote for Kerry. That is called grace.

[me b zola]

+1

Here's to grace :toast:

[madfloridian]

7. Here'e the video....

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2439

She is not going easy

[high density]

19. That is painful to watch

I had to shut it off about a couple minutes in. She is a fool for allowing this stuff to be perpetuated instead of shutting it down immediately.

[madfloridian]

She is playing games with her supporters.

[helderheid]

35. that's what it looks like from where I sit

[kurtboss]

95. Yeah But Utah Ain't Going Obama

I don't get why Mormons love the GOP, but someone should mention that the Angel Moroni is voting Obama.

[helderheid]

106. We were blue in the late 60s

Bout half the dems here I know are LDS.

[kurtboss]

120. What turned it so far Right?

The Evangelical community isn't exactly polite to the LDS. (Vast generality.) And Dems are far more ecumenical about religion.

[helderheid]

146. I wish I knew. I've not really studied the history and it was before my time.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

147. In this case it might have something to do with Mormon theology concerning "race"

The original LDS teaching was that "black people" were the descendants of angels who wouldn't take sides between Elohim and Lucifer in the great war just before Earth was populated.

In other words they aren't gonna vote for a guy whose ancestors were "too lazy to fight Satan."

[ObamaIL]

149. Leaving Race Aside, Utah is Still Too Red

I don't get why Utah wouldn't support white dems

[Whisp]

46. quick summary, please?

I can't view vids. ;(

I get the gist but what is some of her wording.
guess the transcript should be up soon tho.

[madfloridian]

58. I found it at blog, someone had posted some of her words.

Will see if I can find it.

[iconicgnom]

105. "allowing this stuff"?? bobble bobble. She's right out pushing it. bobble bobble

[burythehatchet]

154. CLASSIC bobblehead vid. I was cracking up. I hate this politician

[ladjf]

166. She refers to her followers as her "camp". Well, I think it's time for

her to break camp or come out and declare that she can't support Obama.

[AtomicKitten]

28. good god almighty

What part of "she lost" doesn't she get?

[Raineyb]

138. I'm sure it's the "lost"

"She, she, she" she gets just fine.

Regards

[Metric System]

63. That's it? That's the video? I saw it days ago, and didn't think anything of it.

[madfloridian]

83. Depends.

On whether she intends the Pumas to settle or keep ripping Dean and Obama apart.

She will get what she wants. But it won't make her the winner.

[DevonRex]

92. Once again I thank you for your diligence and for sharing your

knowledge and research with us here.

And no, it appears as if she is not going easy. Sigh.

Just for ONCE I'd like an unambiguous answer from either Clinton, one that can't be parsed into several different meanings and that shows real support for Obama. Apparently that is too much to ask.

[kurtboss]

102. Yeah That's Disgusting

I like the woman off camera responding to Hill's saying people will have a catharsis by voting for her on the first ballot then coming together behind Obama....the woman says, "uh...doesn't work like that."

No shit it doesn't. And maybe if she hadn't wasted an extra month of everyone's lives and made us sit through that rules meeting and all that nonsense, maybe it would be a good idea to "honor" her and "respect" her.

[Radical Activist]

158. Wow. Every time she speaks I hear something that pisses me off.

I just can't stand the spin and insincerity.

She said she moved more quickly than others to help support the nominee after dropping out. Well, she had to move more quickly because she stayed in longer and dragged it out more than other losing candidates! They didn't have to start helping the nominee right away because they dropped out early enough before the convention, after it became clear who the eventual nominee would be. Hillary had to start helping Barack so quickly only because of HER OWN ACTIONS. That's not something to brag about as though she's noble for doing it.

And she didn't start helping the nominee as quickly as the last VP pick, John Edwards, who supported Kerry very strongly in his concession speech in '04. He didn't stay in after it was obvious that he lost. He didn't make demands from the winner as a condition of support. He didn't give a fake-out speech and drag things on for another few days of drama after people expected him to drop out. If you want to see how a decent person with class and respect for the party acts then look at Edwards. There's just no excuse for Hillary's behavior. Its bad enough that she acts like a spoiled child but for her to expect us to give her credit as though her behavior is somehow noble is just unbelievable. She earns my lack of respect for her over and over again.

[KingFlorez]

8. Is there a link to substantiate that?

Something about this doesn't sound right.

[KittyWampus]

27. yes there is link and video.

[kurtboss]

9. If She's Pulling This Crap, She shouldn't be allowed to speak

Ef her. What the hell good is it to do the floor vote except sow division and puff her up???

Lock her out.

[madfloridian]

13. Video

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2439

[Whisp]

25. guess we know why Bill was so sour...

he and Hillary were playing 'nice' (or in bills case just out of view) until it was official that she couldn't blackmail her way to v.p.

obviously Obama has made the choice, and let them know only a few days ago, and it is not her.

thats why the sourness and reversal of convention procedure now.

[high density]

12. ok, it's August and she still lost

Invent a time machine, Hillary. That's all that's going to help ya.

[juajen]

54. I'm not sure what ya'll are worried about.

If the nomination is his, it's his. Her name should be secured in history for women all over the world. It's a good thing for the world, most of which still treats women as third class citizens, and it's a good thing for the Democratic Party.

This contest was a virtual tie, and her hard work and progress should be recognized. Previous candidates, like in 2004 and 2000 had little or no competition when all was said and done. This time, like it or not, we had two winners. Hillary is in a unique position and pushing it under the table is just not going to work IF Obama wants her voters.

[me b zola]

96. Her name does absolutely nothing for me as a woman

Sorry, but her whining about being a woman and seeking sympathy when she was down in the polls and obviously out of the race (which she, conforming to nasty stereotypes, continued because of "feelings" and "it's our turn" kind of crap that hurts serious women). No, Hillary in now way offers women or feminism a win, but rather a defeat. Her tactics and performance sickened me.

What Hillary & Bill did do was to completely undermine the Democratic nominee, and for that I will never forgive them.

[beac]

97. Um, "a good thing for the world"???? Seriously???

Many other countries have had women leaders. Hillary's candidacy did nothing to improve the status of women in the world b/c of the cowardly way she cried "sexism" every time things got tough for her. She made women candidates look BAD.

And her "unique position" was being a lady millionaire who could prop up her failing campaign over and over again from her own enormous wealth.

As a woman, I found Hillary to be a lousy example for the world.

[iconicgnom]

118. No, this time we did NOT have two winners. Hillary conceded. The primaries are OVER.

[cali]

136. baloney. The contest was not a virtual tie. He won. She lost. duh.

and please don't speak for all women the way you attempt to do. You don't speak for me.

Two winners? That's just stupid.

[ObamaIL]

151. He only won like 2/3rds of all the Contests and had the Elect Dels by mid Feb...

If she's a winner so is Gravel.

[YOY]

14. I will.

I hope I can rule out Baht as well. Damn DLC schooks...

[sandnsea]

15. Because Obama changed on MI & FL

and called for all their delegates to be seated. So she's back in theft mode, sounds like to me.

[SuperTrouper]

20. You have a good point. She may want to take the fight to the Convention Floor

PUMA says that some delegates (15 or so) have already switched to her. I hope this is just noise and not a preview of a Denver fight.

[DevonRex]

55. I read that, too. That cult of personality over there is very strange.

Buncha koolaid drinkers. And Hillary is not helping by doing this stuff, either.

[TheBigotBasher]

98. It is nothing but noise

They are the same bunch of bigots who post on each others blogs. They can only manage to get 20 people to a protest and it took them a month to book out a conference of 250, with discounted hotel rates.

I am not sure of what the law is about PACs being connected but looking through the public records of the Denver Group and PUMA PAC on the FEC proves interesting.

[hedgehog]

24. This scares the hell out of me.

It ain't over until the lady stops singing!

[kurtboss]

32. Oh It's Way the Hell Over--She Won't Be Allowed in the Doors If She Even Hints At Pulling Crap

This election is bigger than her.

[Skwmom]

110. I thought Obama agreeing to let all delegates be fully seated was a bad move.

[still_one]

126. She can't be that stupid and believe that a fight for the nomination at the Convention

would be good for the Democratic party

[Yes We Did]

16. I say anybody who hasn't campainged for him in the last month...

Has NO place on the ticket. She is being petty and selfish.

She lost.

It's time for her to get over it and start supporting the leader of our party.

If she isn't with us, she's against us... or at least should shut the heck up.

[polmaven]

48. Two things!

First, she is campaigning WHEN, IF and HOW she is asked to by our nominee's campaign. If you have any proof that she has refused to do so, I'd like to see it.

Secondly, did you miss the announcement that she is on Friday making the first solo campaign appearance on his behalf?

Maybe you should consider shutting the heck up until you get your facts straight!

[Bok_Tukalo]

17. Didn't Obama just recently get behind the seating of the MI, FL delegates?

Interesting timing.

[madfloridian]

22. They will accept no concessions.

.

[kurtboss]

70. Makes Me Think This is Nothing To Get Concerned About

It was a classy thing for Obama to ask, but I can't imagine he'd do it without consulting Clinton.

[kurtboss]

18. Well If She Won't Rule It Out I Fucking Will

You lost. Shut up.

[truebrit71]

30. Amen.

Time for the pantsuit to get over it.

[Whisp]

42. that pantsuit must have the tiniest heart on the planet...

seeing as she already worked it out for campaigning for Obama.

what a piece of shit.

[madfloridian]

21. Howard Dean yesterday on MSNBC....it is up to Hillary. per rules. VIDEO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x166071

She can do what she wants. She can disrupt or be gracious.

Looks like she chose the former.

[SuperTrouper]

29. I am disappointed. We don't need a fratricide right now.

[beachmom]

31. According to that ABC news report upthread, she is doing this

as a negotiating tool for her role in the convention, and she's *really* not going to do it. I hope that is all this is.

[kurtboss]

52. They Won't Let Her

She doesn't have the power to pull off anything except set off the media and create an unnecessary distraction. But they'll take the distraction over the floor fight, so don't worry.

[Flying Dream Blues]

121. If that's ALL it is, it's still bad enough for me. nt

[still_one]

129. Wow, now we can give the MSM even more reason not to focus on the issues of the campaign

[truthN08]

39. OMG

I can't believe this. Why is this happening?

[kurtboss]

78. ZOMG

I think it's a sign of the apocalypse.

[kurtboss]

26. Unless This is Just Media BS and Obama has this all worked out

Like I thought they were talking doing the floor vote in the middle of the day. That's fine.


If she had an ounce of class in her body she'd release her delegates, but I wish there was a tooth fairy too.

[beachmom]

37. There is a YouTube video.

[Metric System]

40. Class? You've GOT to be kidding me after that homophobic thread you started.

[kurtboss]

45. Look who's bringing up homophobia

Classy.

[Metric System]

53. What? That comment doesn't even make sense.

[kurtboss]

64. You are a Classy Individual And I want Everyone to Know it....is that so wrong?

Take pride in your classiness.

[Metric System]

71. Sorry, your comment still doesn't make sense. I'm not the one starting homohobic threads. I've never

had none of my threads locked. Have you? Oh, wait, nevermind.

[kurtboss]

72. Metric You Are So Awesome and Cool....You so Rule

Like totally.

[Metric System]

77. How old are you? Seriously? Does your mommy know you're on her computer?

[kurtboss]

81. How Do You Find a Way to Get Cooler With Every Post???? Preternatural Awesomeness I Say

For Realz

[Metric System]

86. I think this silly conversation ends now. And NO, I won't be putting you on ignore.

[madfloridian]

51. Video

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2439

At a fundraise...I guess for herself.

[polichick]

33. Maybe she's pushing for a speaking spot for Bill.

[Median Democrat]

34. Thought She Just Said That She Did Not Want To Be Nominated

Hillary is not crazy.

[kurtboss]

66. Yeah, This Has To Be Media Crap

Meant to keep Dems fighting. And look it works :P Because even the possibility of her pulling this crap makes me see red.

[highplainsdem]

67. That was a NY Daily News story based on one anonymous source, who was contradicted

by an identified Clinton spokeswoman quoted at the end of the article, who said very clearly that no decision had been made.

[Metric System]

36. Here come all the rabid Hillary haters. You know, the ones who define unity as bashing Hillary and

telling her supporters to "shut up and get over it." You reap what you sow.

[kurtboss]

41. That's Exactly Right, She Is Not Pulling Shit

This isn't time to be nice. This election is way bigger than her. Even bigger than her ego.


She can't put this election at risk and get away with it.

[mcctatas]

43. I won't bash Hillary or her supporters...

I only question how this fosters unity. I would think this was a terrible idea even if the shoe was on the other foot :shrug:

[me b zola]

113. The Clintons are looking to foster "unity"

Ever since they figured out that they lost the nomination--SC--they have been actively working to undermine the Democratic nominee.

[truthN08]

57. You know in the end

She won't get the nomination and if she did in some weird way a number of supers changing their mind she'd lose the election.

[laugle]

137. Amen

to that!!

[Beacool]

44. Good for her!!!!

Hillary won almost as many pledged delegates as Obama (only 127 less), therefore there should be a roll call. No one is saying that the result would be any different, but she has more than earned the right to have a roll call. Particularly, since she's the first woman to have come this far in a presidential election.

Finally something to look forward in this convention for us Hillary supporters.

:woohoo:

[crimsonblue]

62. Stop with the "first time blah blah blah" Bullshit....

Like Obama is following in the footsteps of many successful black nominees.

[Beacool]

68. So?

No one is denying that he's the nominee. A roll call doesn't take away his nomination, but it does validate how close Hillary came in this election.

[JackORoses]

87. What's the point, if he's the Nominee?

Hillary's Primary Victories validated her Candidacy. It needs no further evidence.
This is just an excuse for people to hold onto their dream and wait for the opportunity of shenanigans.

She needs to put an end to this immediately or the MSM is going to have a field day about the 'Divided Democratic Party'.

[Beacool]

99. No, it's a sign of respect.

We never had such a close primary and one that was won only through the SD.

Many Hillary supporters want an official roll call, not to cause a ruckus but because she has earned it.

Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?

[JackORoses]

170. that's not what they want and you know it

If Hillary had any respect for Obama, she would put an end to this.

She has none,
so why is she deserving of any.

[mtnester]

176. SAME reason Gary Hart and Ted Kennedy were nominated.

Ted Kennedy went after a sitting, incumbent President. Kennedy insisted on being nominated at the convention itself; he’d suspended his campaign, but had refused concede or to endorse Carter. Kennedy lost by at least 800 votes on the first round...mid August. His concession speech was a great speech, and solidly launched him toward the great Senator he is today.

At the 1972 convention, Mr. Hart’s name was entered into nomination, but when Mr. Mondale went over the top, Mr. Hart immediately asked that his name be withdrawn and that Mr. Mondale be nominated by acclamation.

The nomination of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama at the convention should take place, and some form of the above will happen. As in all past conventions, those contenders, especially when it was close, were nominated and then did some shape or form of the above.

As I suspect this one will too. It may not take the exact form as either above, but it will be a nomination, with a recognition or role call of the delegates, and a nomination of Mr. Obama, with a great speech from Mrs. Clinton, as is history.

No sweat for anyone here. Some of this is about courtesy and protocol and long history. Why would it be different now?

All will be well and we will all work hard toward a great day in November.

[JackORoses]

177. Carter and Mondale lost in part because of that division.

Hillary is a truly selfish Human Being if she carries on with this.

[crimsonblue]

144. and that doesn't matter

as I do recall Hillary herself said, that all you need is 50 + 1.

[democrattotheend]

85. I agree, if her delegates and supporters agree to accept the outcome

What I want to avoid is a repeat of the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, where Clinton supporters rudely shouted and interrupted the meeting and made a spectacle on national TV. I am afraid that some of those people are delegates and will start yelling and booing at the result of the roll call the way they did when the committee voted in May. I think that Obama and the DNC should say they are fine with doing a roll call but want her to do everything she can to make sure her delegates do not behave the way some of her supporters at the RBC meeting did.

[totodeinhere]

100. Is it still all about Hillary even though she lost fair and square?

Finally something to look forward in this convention for us Hillary supporters.

What about looking forward to Obama's nomination and his acceptance speech? If you are really supporting Obama now then that should be enough to look forward to.

[Beacool]

103. Nope, it's not enough.

Half of the party voted for Hillary and we want that acknowledged through a roll call. It's not taking anything away from Obama, he still will be the nominee.

As for that massive rally in Denver, I'm sure that those who supported him from the beginning will be thrilled and good for them.

[Zhade]

160. LESS than half.

NT!

[Name removed]

123. Deleted message

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[Marrah_G]

142. Beacool supports Obama, she is not a PUMA

[Raineyb]

145. I said PUMA excusing

That is not the same as calling anyone a PUMA which is an entirely false accusation.

Regards

[Zhade]

159. In OUR presidential election, you mean. Other countries broke the glass ceiling looooong ago.

So, are you saying you're NOT supporting Obama?

[JackORoses]

50. damn these people! they are such absolute losers.

[kurtboss]

60. Even Wasserman-Schultz Won't Back Her On This

Maybe she'll get Geraldine.

[Captain Hilts]

61. And you're a loser for believing Barnicle blather. nt

[DarthDem]

88. Get a Clue

Fall for MSM blather much? There was a report just yesterday - - and not from an anonymous source - - that she is going to campaign for Obama. Wake up, there's coffee on.

[democrattotheend]

59. I'm ok with a roll call if it will shut the PUMA people up

I'd be ok with a formal roll call if Hillary's delegates agree to unconditionally honor its outcome. What I am really afraid of is some of her delegates being PUMA's who disrupt the convention the way they disrupted the RBC meeting in May.

[kurtboss]

65. Clinton-Ferraro -- Coming soon?

I scare myself sometimes. Then I turn off Geraldine.

[Raineyb]

124. I'm not and I still want the PUMA people to shut up

I'm tired of their bullshit. This roll call crap is not acceptable.

Regards

[highplainsdem]

69. Good for her. She deserves that recognition.

[democrattotheend]

75. Couldn't it be embarassing for her though?

Since all the supers have already switched and the Obama campaign would probably be able to bring over some of her pledged delegates, the result would likely not be as close as the primaries were. Remember that towards the end of the primary process, Obama held onto a solid 10-15 point lead in the national tracking polls over Clinton for the last month. And as the presumptive nominee, Obama's team has a lot more carrots to offer delegates to vote for him at the convention, so he could probably get a lot of her pledged delegates to vote for him, and the results of the roll call might not be as close as you would expect. For example, many of the Michigan uncommitteds were reserving the right to vote for whoever the UAW endorsed, and they endorsed Obama in June. And a lot of the unions and other organizations that supported Clinton in the primaries now endorsed Obama and who knows how their delegates would vote?

[kurtboss]

89. Seriously, Lanny Davis Should Not be Let in the Building

Or in Colorado even.

[polmaven]

73. It won't happen unilaterally.

"No decisions have been made. And so we are trying to work all this through with the DNC and with the Obama campaign." (bold mine)

Lets all relax and let this play out.

[democrattotheend]

79. Agreed. I actually think it might help Obama.

If I were Obama, I would agree to the roll call in exchange for a commitment from Hillary to do whatever it takes to keep her delegates from disrupting the convention the way they disrupted the rules and bylaws meeting. Maybe if there is a roll call, some of the dead enders will feel that it was done fairly and be more likely to get on board with Obama in the end.

[kurtboss]

84. What If It's For Bill?

Since Bill is acting like a little turd, if he came out all smiley about Obama it would look good.

[polmaven]

150. There ya go!

The hypervenilating is beginning to be almost funny.

[Pisces]

74. Disgusting, political stunt

[TwilightGardener]

80. And Republicans and Rush Limpballs laugh, as Hillary gives them what they want.

Good job, Clintons.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

91. OMG! I guess she'll end up in the same Hell as Teddy Kennedy and Jesse Jackson

Seriously, it's not that unusual for someone to be placed in nomination who doesn't have the majority of delegates.

I seem to recall most conventions having a roll call where different names are mentioned. It's fun. It's fake suspense that makes winning seem more meaningful.

Then somebody wins and the balloons drop.

Nobody will tune in to watch a unanimous roll-call.

[Hope And Change]

94. I agree.Nothing new here.

[kurtboss]

104. If they bury it in the morning or mid day....

Otherwise EVERYONE will tune in for this. Because this is dumbass story that's been bigger than the mortgage crisis and the war in Iraq combined.

[Metric System]

107. Yeah, but this is DIFFERENT. It's about HILLARY, the evil Rethug-lite ice queen.

[Raineyb]

125. And who won those years? n/t

Regards

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

156. The republican, just like all the other years Clinton wasn't the nominee.

It's not like we have a lot of Democratic victories to study for these comparisons.

Jerry Brown gave Clinton a hell of a late-primary run, much like Hillary this year, and Jerry Brown had his name entered into nomination.

And obviously Carter was not nominated by acclimation in 1976. That was a very contested primary.

So the only two open seat elections we have won since LBJ both had normal roll-calls where the losing contestants got their delegate votes.

[pkz]

93. WebChat w/Hillary tomorrow

Thank you so much for everything you have done. Don't forget to join Hillary on Thursday, August 7, at 12:00 PM EDT for an online web chat. She hopes you will join her on the blog to talk about all the upcoming exciting events and activities.

www.Hillaryclinton.com

She'll be taking questions and this nomination one will likely come up.

[still_one]

108. If the Clinton's allow there name to be placed in nomination at the convention

and try to take the spotlight away from Obama, screw them and the Democratic party for allowing it

I personally don't believe anything from barnicle, and her endorsement of Obama points that the media is lying

but if it is true, fu*k them

[Metric System]

109. THE ClintonS? THEIR name? Wow, sexist much? Hillary is the one who ran, not Bill.

[still_one]

112. Are you inane? What did I say that was sexist. Point out my sexism or appologize

[Metric System]

116. You said the Clintons want their name in nomination! You're suggesting that Hillary isn't her own

person. Like I said, Hillary ran, not Bill. It is her accomplishment and you are attempting to diminish it and resorting to a sexist attack by suggesting it was the Clintons and not Hillary herself who got this far.

[still_one]

122. Bill isn't even running, and that wasn't even my point. In fact if bill

clinton kept out of her campaign, she might be the nominee. He did more to hurt her campaign than help her

I have no problem with her campaign and supporters being recognized, but I do have a problem if they are trying to take this thing to the convention with hopes of regaining the nomination

[polmaven]

162. See my post further up...

This is all being coordinated with the DNC AND THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN. it is not being done unilaterally. There is absolutely no need for all the hyperventilating that has been going on in this thread.

[still_one]

174. I hope so. It is plausable

[Whisp]

139. lol. ask about what they think about lousy sexist pig Bill and how he treats women...

you can try but you won't get one lousy single peep out of them on That one.

[NashVegas]

111. Good For Her! She Deserves to Hear Her Name Called, And So Do All of Her Supporters

And it would be colossally stupid of Obama's camp to deny it.

[still_one]

114. You don't think this is a play for the nomination at the convention? /nt

[Marrah_G]

143. No- and it is nothing new

[countingbluecars]

115. Throw the PUMAs a bone. n/t

[Phx_Dem]

117. Yep, still a selfish, divisive asshole.

I love how she makes a video for "her supporters." If that isn't divisive, I don't know what is. Go away, Hillary.

(Mrs Phx_Brown)

[Beacool]

130. That was unnecessary.

Of course she has her supporters. What, you thought that millions of people would go poof and not support her anymore?

What's so divisive about making a video for them?

[Zhade]

163. The vast majority of her former supporters now support Obama.

NT!

[Beacool]

167. Nope, they will vote for Obama,

but they are still Hillary supporters in the full extent of the word.

[Justitia]

171. So why haven't they paid off her debt?

[Major Hogwash]

128. I think I just heard the Gates of Hell squeaking open again.

Hmmm, wonder what the deal is with that?

OMG! There's a zombie on the loose!!!

LoL

[David Zephyr]

131. Lighten up. The convention is show business and Obama approved Hillary saying this.

It's called drama.

Hillary Clinton isn't going out on her own here, and Obama and Axelrod probably OK'd her saying this.

[still_one]

135. Really /nt

[iconicgnom]

132. It might be a good thing. It could backfire badly, with Obama clinching a resounding win.

In any event, he won't lose, and it'll put an absolute end to the bullshit.

[Zhade]

165. It'd be pretty awesome to see the "18 million voters" horseshit destroyed!

NT!

[Max_powers94]

133. We are going to loose to McCain if this keeps up.

[rucky]

134. This oughta clear up any lingering questions.

Obama will be the nominee. Her delegates will be happy. This is all kosher.

[Marrah_G]

140. OFFS- This is not a big deal and not out of the ordinary

Her name will be on it. The votes go to Obama. There is nothing nefarious going on.

Obama is the nominee and will stay the nominee.

I am still surprised at how many people on a political board don't understand the process.

[SurfingAtWork]

141. This bothers me allot, because the Clinton's have nothing if not an abundance of

political savvy. I don't think they'd spend the "political capital" to do this unless they had spoken to enough PD/SD, crunched the numbers, and were fairly certain they could pull off a victory.

[Justitia]

172. No, they just have an unusually high threshold for public humiliation. -eom

[Radical Activist]

152. All candidates with delegates have their name placed in nomination on the first ballot.

That's my understanding. So what's the point of bringing that up?

I could give her the benefit of the doubt since this is a second hand report, but otherwise it sounds like a shitty thing to say.

[Zhade]

153. Oh, so she lied. AGAIN.

Whatever. She's got zero chance.

[wisteria]

161. What is she trying to do damage the party and sabotage Senator Obama.

If this turns out to be true, it will be the end for the Clinton's.

[zulchzulu]

164. Just when you thought it was safe to trust the Clintons....

I never have and never will.

[TexasObserver]

168. What Hilly wants is not what Hilly gets.

She'd better clean up her act, or she'll watch the convention on TV.

[MilesColtrane]

169. Of course her name will be put in nomination.

Because "anything could happen". Right Hillary?

Jesus

[SuperTrouper]

173. Scumbag Drudge is stirring the drink about Hillary and her doubts about Obama

now the M$M will have orgasms of delight seeing that "Democrats are divided and a fight at the COnvention Floor" and their whore McSame comes up smelling like a rose. :mad:

Yep, MessNBC's Alex Witt is in deep delight at this moment talking about the "Hillary/Obama Drama" :mad:

[workinclasszero]

175. I didn't want to believe a democrat would do this to their own

party's nominee, but... here it is.

Can this country ever get pass the damn republicans who mean to destroy all thats good in America and the damn egos of the Clinton's and the corporate whores of the DLC?

Shit I was full of optimism earlier in the year. I thought finally Obama will bring change to this country at last.

Lately I just think we are all fucked. And here is Hillary, doing her part...

God help us all.