is anyone worried about Bill Clinton ?

[JI7]

i'm watching him on nightline right now. he has a heart problem and he is angry. what he is angry about is debatable.

i think he is most angry about what he views as other people accusing him of things such as being racist. this is understandable but it's not really true. people don't think he is racist but he seems to think they do.

[redstate_democrat]

1. No.

[snowbear]

2. Aw.. I think the Big Dawg will be alright...

He's getting the best of care -- and Democrats everywhere will always love him.



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[Metric System]

3. Ahem (re: the issue of race and the Clintons):

In an appearance today on MSNBC, Jackson said that Clinton's "tears" -- none actually fell from her eyes -- are something that "we're still analyzing within the Barack Obama campaign." "Those tears also have to be analyzed," Jackson said. "They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45 percent of African-Americans will participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama."

Jackson continued: "We saw something very clever in the last week of this campaign ... We saw a sensitivity factor, something that Mrs. Clinton has not been able to do with voters that she tried in New Hampshire. Not in response to voters. Not in response to Katrina, not in response to other issues that have devastated the American people -- the war in Iraq -- we saw tears in response to her appearance. So her appearance brought her to tears, but not Hurricane Katrina."

Asked whether he was suggesting that Clinton's "tears" were "staged," Jackson said he wouldn't go that far -- but then suggested that there are things in the world worth crying over, and that whatever got Clinton going wasn't one of them.

Although Jackson was plainly speaking on behalf of the Obama campaign -- note the use of "we," plus the statement that the Obama campaign is "analyzing" the tears -- Obama himself declined to comment on Clinton's emotional episode when he was asked about it Monday.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/01/09/jackson/

[woolldog]

5. Ah....so what's your point?

[melody]

6. Yet more attempts at division

Are you for the Democratic candidate or against him?

[question everything]

33. Your comment should be addressed to all the DUers who still trash the Clintons

who, I think, would rather lose the elections then "lose" their favorite activities.

Some actually go to the Hillary forum to see if they can stir things up.

So a reminder:

Bill Clinton was a good president:

He took what was then the largest deficit - larger than all previous years combined - and left with a surplus.

The economy expanded across all income levels

He is the first Democrat to be re-elected since FDR and left office with the highest approval rating of any president.

The fact that we even consider changes in the Supreme Court is thanks to the the two that he appointed.

Yeah, yeah, I know. The economic expansion could have happened anyway, and any Democratic president would have appointed liberal, or, at least, not rabid, Justices. But these events did happen during his administration.

Shame on all the DUers (and Michele Obama) who trash the Clinton Presidency.

Shame on Barack for trashing the 60s and the baby boomers. Were it not for our activism during the 60s, the idea of a black president would still be just a wishful thinking.

[melody]

36. No, because Bill Clinton is now working AGAINST the Democratic ticket

This is Democratic Underground.

[Beacool]

42. You are correct.

If it wasn't for all of those who fought for civil rights and women's rights, neither Hillary nor Obama could have ran for president.

[Egnever]

8. lol Jackson has never been an Obama surogate

The cut his nuts off comment puts the lie to this articles presumption that jackson was on the obama campaign.

Why post this nonsense?

[Metric System]

31. Um, Jackson JR.

[VolcanoJen]

11. Point?

:shrug:

[still_one]

12. Is this the same jackson who dissed Obama because he encouraged high values

for African Americans?

and I won't repeat his off mike quote on faux that he made about Obama

[question everything]

34. His son, I think, Who was bullying members of the Black Congressional Caucus

who pledged to Hillary during the primaries. Berating them for standing in the way of a brother getting to the White House.

But, hey, it was not the Obama campaign that was playing the race card, right?

[madeline_con]

14. Jackson was plainly speaking out of his ass, as he so often does.

Like he knows what Hillary cries about.

Not everyone stands on the corner and bellows every little indignation to all who will listen, Jesse.

[leftofcool]

16. I wonder if Jesse knows every little thing that Hillary

does or does not do?

[Beacool]

41. Jesse Jr. is an a-hole.

I remember his exact words when he said it and I wanted to punch my TV set.

Jesse must have forgotten that his candidate went to New Orleans at Hillary's invitation and I don't remember him shedding any tears either.

I like his dad, but I can't stand the son!!!!!

[Major Hogwash]

4. Why is he on tv?

I thought he had better things to do than to run around willy nilly whining like this.

I thought there was an election this year, but wait, maybe fatso has another book to sale.

[Egnever]

10. because he reinforces the idea that Obama is playing the race card

and hes more than willing to help them establish that meme.

[woolldog]

20. Bingo.

He's trying to undermine Obama.

[HughMoran]

40. major hogwash

major hogwash

[alphafemale]

43. Think about it.

[Beacool]

44. "Fatso" was in Africa on behalf of his foundation.

A foundation that has helped thousands of people in the world. He does have more important things to do than worrying about some of Obama's hateful supporters.

Disgusting!!!!

[JoFerret]

45. You need to find civility and common sense

Unless you are actively working for John McCain. In which case I would say you are wasting your time on this board. We can sow our own seeds of discord without your help.

[melody]

7. I've lost considerable respect for him but I still hope he gets better

And backs the Democratic ticket.

[kurtboss]

9. Yeah, He Could be an Asset...He hasn't Been

He gets a camera anytime he wants one. He obviously, I hope, wouldn't do anything to sink Obama. I just wish he'd do more to help out. (Of course maybe it's Obama not reaching out to him.)

[Whisp]

39. he could be an Asset but has chosen to be an Asshat.

[FrenchieCat]

13. If he thinks that this is endearing him with the African-American community,

he is mistaken.

Campaigning heartily for Barack Obama would prove his meddle much more than his cries of protestation and denial.

Guess he's no longer the astute politician he used to be, because the Old Bill Clinton would have known this. Maybe he needs to climb out of his "The world should love me" bubble. That might help him gain some insight.

Oh...and his timing stinks like shit.

[Beregond2]

15. I'm worried

he won't shut up and go away. What an embarrasment he has become.

[ccharles000]

17. I am sure he will be fine.

[frog92969]

18. I'm always worried about Bill Clinton

[MrSlayer]

19. Not particularly.

I have other things to worry about.

[dkf]

21. Bill Clinton is being a big baby. Hillary is acting like an adult. He needs to follow her example.

[TheKentuckian]

22. No one thinks Bill Clinton is racist

the comments that even infer such a thing comes from the fact the Bill will say and do about ANYTHING to win.

Me being disappointed in the Clintons has less than zero to do with me thinking they are racist and everything to do with their loose handling of facts, rules, decency, or generally anything that is a roadblock to the goal. That's a brand of tenaciousness that is to be respected but not admired, and I think most should be able to discern the difference.

[Divernan]

24. Depends on what your definition of "racist" is.

Bill Clinton played the race card as a means to an end. In that he is a very bright man with a thorough knowledge and understanding of the insecurity, fear and hatred which fuels racial prejudice, as well as of the terrible costs to individuals and societies which result from racial hatred, I consider him to be far worse than the garden variety racist, i.e, the frightened, insecure, mentally and/or economically impoverished who are manipulated into blaming their plights on people of other races.

[dkf]

25. He thinks he was completely honorable during the campaign.

He doesn't even know what he did wrong. Its sad.

[karynnj]

26. Bill Clinton was always like that

He has always blamed others for messes that he at least partially cause - and we knew this in the 1992 primaries.

[quickesst]

23. "people don't think he is racist but he seems to think they do."

The mighty effort to paint him that way did not go unnoticed. The less than brainiac types, of which are the majority, fell for it lock, stock, and barrel. I've yet to see any post, news item, thread, essay, blog, news anchor, etc. that even hinted at racism with the Clintons before the primaries began. Figure it out yourself. Thanks.
quickesst

[ellacott]

30. HE tried to paint himself that way

He said stupid things, people called him on it and then he cries that they are calling him a racist.

There have been many articles that criticized Clinton regarding the issue of race. People picketed the opening of his office in Harlem. There were also protests regarding his passage of the Omnibus Crime Bill. There were many blacks horrified at the label First Black President.

Since most people don't make an attempt to understand issues regarding race then they unaware of these views.

[bigwillq]

27. In what regard?

That he's going to drop dead? :shrug:

That is he going to sabotage the Obama campaign? :shrug:

[MyNameGoesHere]

28. Hey thanks for your worry. Is that like concern? n/t

[JVS]

29. no

[bunkerbuster1]

32. nope.

He'll come around. He's venting a bit these days. By the time the convention rolls around he'll be wined and dined and feel all special again.

[blondeatlast]

35. No. But your concern is noted and filed in Drawer 999. nt

[scheming daemons]

37. Yeah, I'm worried.... I'm worried that he won't STFU before November......

[BklynChick]

38. worried how? I just wish he would STFU