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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:25 PM
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in all the Obama-hates-the-troops nontroversy, have you heard ONE single dem surrogate discuss
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 01:32 PM by Gabi Hayes
McCain's truly abysmal voting record on Veterans' issues? why on earth can't they realize that they need to turn every attack on Obama into an attack (truthful, of course, which is easy, as in what follows) on McCain's pathetic record in most areas

thanks to zulchzulu for the following:

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:25 PM
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1. Wes Clark has, repeatedly.
And was burned by the media for his troubles.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:28 PM
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4. thanks....missed that. what got publicized, of course, was his commentary on
McCain's fitness to rule based on being shot down

that overrode EVERYTHING else he said, so his message was drowned out by the mischaracterization of what he said about that
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:11 PM
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11. Many Dems left him out dry
And my guess is that's why after experiencing that cowardly behavior from his own side he made his statement about moving on....

Hell, would you trust these folks to have your back- much less follow your lead?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:27 PM
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2. Keith Olbermann took him to the woodshed last night.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:30 PM
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5. Olbermann is the only source of real reporting on McCain, but I'm talking about political
surrogates, not journalistic advocates

it really is amazing that things seem to have gotten worse every election cycle

well, maybe not
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:32 PM
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6. I agree Obama appears to have a paucity of surrogate input on the air.
It does provide a rather stark contrast to McBush's campaign which consists of attack, attack, attack, snivel, and then attack some more.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:28 PM
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3. Only one- and it got very little traction because it was in print. Pathetic isn't it?
I assume they're all terrified of being swiftboated for calling the "maverick war hero" the phony and bull shit artist that he is.

It makes me crazy because this is looking all too familiar and if they don't start speaking up soon, we can kiss this election goodbye.
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:34 PM
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7. because most Dems are whiners not fighters
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:36 PM
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8. Only KO & Rachel - we need an ad about this asap.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:49 PM
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9. wtf were the dems thinking? why no ads about this in the can already?
they know his record

they know how unpopular the war is, and how sympathetic the electorate seems to be toward the troops

they should have had something ready for when the INEVITABLE sleazy attacks came

very unprepared

hope this is a lesson, and they start banking some ads in preparation for the next wave of BS. surely they must have some templates ready

I'm sick to death of having the dems constantly put on the defensive, and ALLOWING themselves to remain there, as opposed to their counterparts, who refuse to accept any negative comments and realize that it's their JOB to turn the negative questions (when the come at all) into an attack on Obama

it's inuriating to see the likes of Brad Blakeman, Todd Harris, that Sanchez woman, etal, have their way against the hosts and whatever pitiful dem cannon fodder. it's infuriating to see them lie, obfuscate, distort at will, without ANY refutation. the dems MUST stop the dialogue EVERY time they hear a pug lie, which would be just about every time they speak, but that's what has to happen, otherwise the false message they project will be constantly reinforced

it's how they play the game, and they've been winning for the sixteen of the last twenty four years
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:06 PM
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10. Obama's high-road is a bit too high imo.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:47 PM
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13. It appears that Susan Rice is the only surrogate with a back bone n/t
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 03:58 PM by ellacott
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:35 PM
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12. Jack Reed - 10 Minute Interview
yesterday on Ed. Schultz
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