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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:00 AM
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Stunner: Ben Stein endorses Al Franken --- calls McCain campaign "pathetic" "shockingly poor"
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 03:05 AM by grantcart



While Stein identifies himself as a Republican, he certainly does not always march in lockstep with GOP leadership. For example, Stein is backing Al Franken's bid for the Senate. That's right, that Al Franken, the liberal Democratic comedian who is seeking to oust incumbent Republican Sen. Norm Coleman in Minnesota.

"He is my pal, and he is a really, really capable smart guy," Stein said of Franken. "I don't agree with all of his positions, but he is a very impressive guy, and I think he should be in the Senate


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Mr. McCain is running the absolute most pathetic campaign I have ever seen in my whole life," Stein said in his unmistakable monotone delivery. "His campaign is just heartbreakingly pathetic. He is a very impressive guy. He is a brave guy, but he is running the most lackluster campaign I have ever seen in my entire life. I would have thought Bob Dole's campaign would have set a record for poor campaigns, but this one is even worse. I mean it is shocking."


Thus Stein's answer to turn it around is Rove -- architect of Bush's back-to-back presidential victories -- who he describes as "about the smartest in the country in terms of politics."

A McCain campaign spokesman politely sidestepped Stein's criticism by saying the campaign is well-equipped to defeat Obama in November.

From Stein's perspective, McCain has been running an uninspiring campaign -- one that lacks a coherent message


edited to add CNN link http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/27/preston.mccain/i...
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:19 AM
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1. Huh.
This is surprising. Now, if only he'd renounce that awful Expelled movie...
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:24 AM
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5. Say yes to..
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:20 AM
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2. = Stein's answer to turn it around is Rove= McCain's NEW team is using Rove Tactics .....
the last couple of weeks since he changed his team ... they have done nothing but put out ads that lie and distort .... that's the Rove way. The patriotism BS is all Rove. Ben Stein is still a jerk even though he likes Al Franken.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:23 AM
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3. he thinks Rove is a smart guy
not a lower than pond scum piece of shit willing to do tactics that would turn any decent person's stomach :thumbsdown:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:29 AM
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7. I think Rove is both
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:41 AM
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8. I don't think a truly intelligent person has to resort to scummy tactics n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 04:02 AM
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9. I don't think that scummy tactics has anything to do with your intelligence
Anyone who can get chimpy into the white house is obviously an intelligent person.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 04:51 AM
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10. I do
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 04:52 AM by Skittles
and any truly intelligent person could see GWB was a twit
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 06:55 AM
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16. And I think Rove sees him as an easily manipulated twit.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:42 AM
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21. That's ridiculous.
Evil people are often brilliant.

Rove is a sociopath. Which is why he uses "scummy tactics" - many (in fact most) sociopaths are highly intelligent.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 06:31 AM
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14. And it is also smart to bring a gun when you want to steal something.
It is easier to win at chess when you stick a gun in your opponents face...
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:29 AM
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18. It took 5 out of 9 "intelligent people" to get chimpy into the White House.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:38 AM
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22. Smart enough to use an effective tactic that works in the short term and backfires in the long.
Not really that smart.

He uses tactics straight our of Macheivelli...the ones that fit him.

He and his masters forgot a few choice quotes.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:24 AM
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4. What??????
Are pigs flying now? :wow:

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politicoFOsho Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:27 AM
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6. He also thinks the rich should pay more taxes
He's a bizarre guy, but I cannot take him seriously until he gets over that creationism nonsense.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 05:46 AM
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11. Stein's point about McCain's campaign being worse then Dole's
is right on the money. It is the only campaign that it is comparable to.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 05:47 AM
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12. Karl Rove is already an unofficial adviser to the McCain campaign
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 06:24 AM
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13. CNN's headline now reads : McCain needs Roved says Ferris Buehler actor
:rofl: So much for that message.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 06:46 AM
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15. Can you imagine Franken on the floor of the Senate!
Talk about making Cspan more interesting. I cannot wait!!

Woooo, Go Al!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:24 AM
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24. He'd certainly liven the place up, wouldn't he? I love Franken.
And there's one thing people don't always acknowledge about comedians like Al Franken. They have to be very smart to do what they do. Good ones, I mean. That dry, quick wit that Franken has is just amazing.

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:20 AM
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17. PROGRESS.
A Good Day for Al!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:36 AM
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19. About this "Rove" thing
Completely overrated.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:39 AM
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20. Rove already is an unofficial advisor, he says that he gives them advice.
Plus, Rove's protege has an official title.

methinks they need a lot more at this point.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:39 AM
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23. One person of which I could care less about...even if we agree sometimes.
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 08:39 AM by YOY
n.t.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:35 AM
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25. I agree 100% but any little thing that helps Al Franken is fine with me
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