BIDEN! BIDEN! BIDEN!

[senseandsensibility]

I want to go on the record as supporting Biden for Obama's VP. He's not perfect, and I would never claim that he was. But he will not back down. He will say what is on his mind, especially in regards to foreign policy. And he knows his stuff.

For better or worse, Obama is a nice guy. He's not an attack dog. Biden will fulfill that role.

We've had "nice guys" for our last two VP nominees and how has that worked out?

[SharonRB]

1. I'm with you on that

Biden is my first choice of all the names I've heard bandied about.

[chimpymustgo]

12. Two words: Anita Hill. Biden is a bungler. Obama needs a smart partner.

Biden is also extremely gaffe-prone.

[DJ13]

17. Two words: Anita Hill

What does Biden have to do with shilling Florida orange juice, being a right wing b*tch, and raising a gay son after railing against gays all her life?

[senseandsensibility]

20. I think that's Anita Bryant

:shrug:

[11 Bravo]

47. I realize we're a big tent.

Apparently our tent is large enough to accomodate not just the cosmically uninformed, but also the just, plain, fucking, stupid.

[Muttocracy]

25. so why does the Obama campaign have him writing articles for the campaign

in USA Today? :shrug:

[gateley]

29. You're right - he's nothing but a bungler.

And why don't you ask the troops in Iraq who have MRAPS what they think about Biden? My guess is, they don't view him as a joke as so many of you do.

[jillan]

44. One word - Bork.

[Bicoastal]

58. I'm not following you...

[my3boyz]

2. I have a feeling that Biden is going to be out in attack dog mode regardless of who is vp

I would like to either see him as Obama's vp or Secretary of State

[Muttocracy]

24. Biden already is acting that way, esp. on foreign policy. nt

[KaryninMiami]

3. I'm with you- am also totally fine with Wes Clark - and agree-

Obama needs a bulldog who can not only fight back with gusto and without venturing from the high road (which Mcshame has already ventured far off of) but also comes from a strong place with foreign and or military experience.

[senseandsensibility]

4. I love Wes Clark as well

I hate the corporate media for what they did to him.

[gateley]

39. I'd be thrilled with Clark, too.

And although Biden doesn't have military experience himself, he's been one of the biggest champions for our troops and veterans.

[cliffordu]

5. Yep - I like Biden. And then in 8 years we can have Biden/Clark!!!

[shraby]

6. We can't afford to lose any Senate seats.

Biden would be good but who would fill his seat? We need every Senator we can get.

[treestar]

37. You mean the seat itself, or his longevity giving him

those heading committee sort of positions?

Delaware is small and tends to re-elect the same people - the governor is done with two terms and would be the next logical senator and she is a Democrat.

[shraby]

48. I just wouldn't want to take a chance on a pug

stealing it somehow if it became open.

[napi21]

7. I agree. Biden can not only be an attack dog, but he can also do it

with a bit of a smile, and a left hook that leaves many of his opponents stammering!

[gateley]

31. He's got that gift of Blarney --

He can shred your policies, but somehow not make it seem like he's dissing YOU. I've seen him tear Lindsay Graham an new one, and at the end Lindsay was like a puppy dog, wagging his tail and grinning like a fool.

[dansolo]

8. The MSM would love that

They could then spend the entire campaign season saying how Obama is so weak in foreign policy that he needs someone like Biden to help him out, and that he is flip-flopping on his stance about going to war in Iraq because he picked a VP who voted for the war.

This recent trip demonstrated why it won't be Biden.

[senseandsensibility]

11. The corporate media will tear down anyone with a D after their

name. So in that respect, it doesn't matter who Obama picks. The difference is: Biden will fight back.

[TeamJordan23]

14. Agree, if he picks someone without foreign policy experience; the MSM will attack him for being weak

The attacks will come either way.

[ccharles000]

9. I very much like him.

[dansolo]

10. The MSM would love that

They could then spend the entire campaign season saying how Obama is so weak in foreign policy that he needs someone like Biden to help him out, and that he is flip-flopping on his stance about going to war in Iraq because he picked a VP who voted for the war.

This recent trip demonstrated why it won't be Biden.

[Blue_In_AK]

13. I think Biden would be great.

I wanted him for president, actually.

[Klukie]

15. He is my pick......

I wanted him for president, but I think he would make a fine VP.

[Peacetrain]

16. I like Biden..in fact think the world of him..but..

in the end, the vp pick really is of very little consequence to a candidate like Obama. So who ever he picks is going to be fine. Unlike the current resident of the white house, he is not going to need his hand held by a older mentor (aka cheney).. Every time someone starts in with that experience meme, I just have to think what experience got us. :)

[spartan61]

21. I so agree with you!

"Every time someone starts in with that experience meme, I just have to think what experience got us."

I have been thinking about this all day and you wrote what I was thinking. It makes me so angry whenever I hear this. Supposedly gwb had "experience" as the gov of Texas. Look what his "experience" did to our country. If this is what experience can do, give me someone with inexperience every time.

[gateley]

33. I think the candidate is vitally important --

to attract and reassure those who may be leery of Obama for whatever their reason might be.

I agree, it's not that Obama will need a Cheney by any means, but it matters on the ticket strategically, IMO.

Experience may not be the best route to go, but I feel it needs to be someone whose presence on the ticket might translate into a vote.

[peoli]

18. IT WILL BE BIDEN!

I said that months ago and I still firmly believe that he is the best BY FAR!!!!!!!!

[newmajority]

19. Two senators on the ticket = McLoon pResidency

And with the economy collapsing, do we REALLY want Biden's support of the horrendous bankruptcy "reform" out there as a campaign issue?

I'm fine with him as a cabinet pick, but not VP.

[Tutonic]

22. Good point concernng the bankruptcy issue.

[treestar]

38. But while the bankruptcy issue makes him a negative on DU

will it lose votes in the general public?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

23. Loose. Can. Non.

A bloviating blabbermouth in love with his own voice & brilliance is the last thing Obama needs. He'd be putting out Biden's fires from then to November.

[Muttocracy]

26. so why has the Obama campaign had him writing letters and going on TV

on their behalf? :shrug:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

34. That's a teensy weensy bit different'n being the one & only VEEPER.

Blo. Vi. A. Tor.

[Muttocracy]

35. I'm not saying they should pick him for VP - I'm just saying if he's that awful

you'd think the campaign wouldn't ask him to be a surrogate for them on MTP, in USA Today, etc. :shrug:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. Bloviationnessosity is tingly in small doses.

:eyes:

[Alizaryn]

27. I agree with you, they would work great

together as a team.

[Skip Intro]

28. Biden would be great as the VP.

He would have been great as the nominee as well.

Here and now, I think Hillary would be better on the ticket, but that's just an opinion.

She has a following, would definitely bring the party together.

[gateley]

40. She might bring the party together,

but I'm not sure how her high Republican negative rating would play out at the polls in November. We have to think beyond US, and do what will strategically get us the most votes. (That's a problem with many of the potential candidates we would love to see - they may not bring in the support from the other side.)

[PatSeg]

30. His name keeps rising to the top

He is many people's number one pick.

[KT2000]

32. Make that a YES!

His straight talk appeals to nonpartisans - like my brother and my sister.

His foreign policy expertise would compliment Obama perfectly. He is non-nonsense and exudes strength.
Sure hope he is the pick.

[senseandsensibility]

41. Biden would be the perfect person to counter

this recent (and extreme) negativity being spewed by McSame over the past couple of days.

[Eurobabe]

42. Jawohl!!

Say it again: Biden!!

[DylansDreams]

43. Another positive for Biden

I think he supported the so-called "surge" before McCain? How would that impact McCain's "issue"?

[jillan]

45. Actually Biden was against the surge, and does an excellent job of explaining why.

[tokenlib]

46. Bankruptcy reform is the millstone around Biden's neck...

Obama has been vocal and out front attacking first Clinton and then McCain for their support of that "suck-up" legislation for the banks and credit lenders.

To pick Biden would be hypocritical after being so strong on the issue. To some of us, Biden's siding with the banks and lenders against the economically devastated is just as problematic as a pro-life VP would be for some of the rest of you...

[thatsrightimirish]

49. he did great in the debates

and he's funny. Not to mention very smart on foreign affairs. doesn't bother me

[senseandsensibility]

51. I was very impressed with him in the debates

He's quick on his feet and he knows his stuff.

[Think82]

50. YEP!

Biden is the best... he was the best presidential nom, now he's the best vp nom... although I do like Barack a lot... It seems they would both make a good team. Biden to me seems like he has Obama's same philosophy plus years of experience, though no the same symbolic presence that Obama has...

[AngryAmish]

52. MBNA! MBNA! MBNA!

Biden is a crook.

[wordpix]

59. could you pls. send a link that would let us know what's this about, in a nutshell? Thx.

[AngryAmish]

60. a bit of googling...

<http://socialistworker.org/2004-1/491/491_02_BuyingPoliticians.shtml>

Anyway, he got a ton of money from MBNA (major credit card issuer). His son (and if IIRC other family members) get a lot of money from MBNA. Biden was the motive force on the bankruptcy bill from a few years ago that would not allow people to discharge credit card debt (meaning they could never get rid of the debt) and also got rid of mortgage "cram down" ability of bankruptcy judges.

His connections with MBNA make Cheney look like an uninterested observer of KBR.

[Mass]

64. By this source, there is nobody in the Democratic party, including probably Kucinich, who would be

OK.

Biden is much better than most of the DINOs that are regularly promoted as good for the moderates. At least, he is a real democrat, even though I disagree with this vote, and I disagree with Obama FISA vote as well.

[darius15]

53. Wouldn't mind him being VP

I wouldn't mind.

He's tough, he always stands up for Obama when the Repubs attack him. It's good to see a Dem whose not scared to stand up to those vicious ReThugs.

[senseandsensibility]

54. Welcome to DU!

How's everyone treating you so far?:hi:

[darius15]

57. Thanks a lot!

I'm liking this forum so far, the people here are great!

One thing, how many posts does it take before I can start my own threads?

[senseandsensibility]

63. Now that I don't know.

Anyone? I'm not sure if it's a hard and fast rule or not.

[southerncrone]

66. Welcome darius15!

Concerning the # of posts you must make b/4 you can start a new thread....
I believe it's around 25, but don't hold me to that. If you click on the HELP icon it states that the number is a secret. This tells me the mods can change it at will, so it may be different now.

Get that keyboard buzzing & get posting! :hi:

[southerncrone]

67. Biden & Wes Clark are on the top of my list.

Clark allows us to keep the Senate seat in DE. But I think Biden would be terrific as S of S, too.

I would rejoice if either were the VP!

[Roxy66]

55. He's my pick too....

[wordpix]

56. i like Biden, too, and he's really up on foreign policy---not many are better

But I also like Dodd, my senator. :loveya:

[senseandsensibility]

68. Both Dodd and Biden were great in the debates

I agree about Dodd.

[against all enemies]

61. Remember when Lieberman took the "high road" and made Cheney look good.

Just when Gore needed some help after his first debate disaster, Joe Lieberman, as usual, was looking out for himself. He has sucked since.

[senseandsensibility]

62. That was my first inkling that things were going to go

very, very wrong. x(

[Mass]

65. Of all the names pushed by the media , Biden is the one I feel the most

comfortable with. His record is liberal, he is obviously strong in foreign policy, and is good at being an attack dog when necessary. In addition, at 64, he is not there to push a personal agenda.

[Steely_Dan]

69. Biden was my choice for President...

I'm still having trouble understanding why he didn't get further down the road with his campaign. He is bright, fearless and is easily the most qualified person to take the helm.

-P

[senseandsensibility]

70. Fearless is an excellent description

He is not intimidated by the media or by neocons or by anyone. We really need that.