Are They "Polls" or Racial Profiles??

[DemocracyInaction]

Given that everybody, their brother and their chicken is bitching about how everything in this country is sucking and going in the "wrong" direction to hell on rollerskates, McCain should be getting only single digits in the polls.

Instead we have a tight race...and Obama is starting to come close to losing in the big swing states (some very bad movements lately).

I truly believe you are looking at the statistical profile of "racism" in these numbers. Sadly, it means that no matter how much money Obama raises, how may tv ads he buys, or speeches he makes, he is powerless to change this. There is no way around the low-functioning, ignorant voting majority in this country. This country is in bad shape but it hasn't been fucked over enough to finally make the "trash" ready to let go of their hate in order to save their own sorry asses. I'm so afraid Obama is going to be just another "footnote" in the history of this joke of a nation.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

1. I do, too. I'm saddened even by some in the so-called liberal punidtry, voices

like Rachel Maddow who has been given a mainstream mike from which to speak. She can't even get on board and support the presumptive Democratic nominee because he's not "pure" enough of a liberal for her. And she continues to assert that Obama will lose this election. It's maddening.

I'm speaking only as a single black woman, but this election--the primaries and now the general--has opened my eyes very wide to the subtleties of racism, the coded language that has been used to describe Obama. The fact that the punditry continues to use terms like "arrogant," "cocky," and "elitist." When I was growing up, these are the very same terms used to characterize blacks who have "made it." They are "uppity," as as Tweety often says, they can't appeal to "regular people." Most black Americans are well aware of what these code words allude to because they are used to describe any black person who has done well for himself/herself.

In addition, the bar continues to be raised. The goal posts have been pushed back so many times. It doesn't matter how well Obama has done, it'll never be good enough.

[Muttocracy]

2. remember the polls aren't counting cell phones, just land lines

which skews them toward older, whiter, wealthier voters at this point.

Cell phones used to be a luxury, but I for one finally switched because it's cheaper than my landline, and I won't have to pay outrageous installation/service fees the next time I move.

[griffi94]

3. i posted about this in another thread

i think racism is certainly alive and well among plenty of voters. i don't think racism alone is the reason the race is as close as it is tho.
a lot of voters just aren't comfortable with anything new, and obama is new. at a time when folks are losing their homes and their jobs, gas prices are thru the roof, and millions are uninsured, many voters aren't willing to take a chance on someone they only heard about a year ago. they want a candidate that's the equivalent of comfort food.
mccain has been one of the most visible politicians of the last decade, he's seen by many people as a maverick who bucks his own party. many voters feel safe with mccain. they don't know obama well enough to be comfortable with him yet.

[DemocracyInaction]

5. griffi---I don't agree with that

I've been hearing this, of course, non-stop from republicans BUT the morons in this nation don't even know who the hell their own Senator is, much less the one from Arizona!! They aren't familiar with him. Actually, since Obama hit the scene like a rock star they actually know a hell of a lot more about him than McCain. I've been a political junkie since age 13 and I'm now in my 60's. My jaw has been dropping because I, honestly, didn't know half the stuff about McCain that I am now seeing. This guy is a snarkey mini-Bush in so many ways than we know. He's as dumb as Bush on knowing world facts. He, apparently got squat out of his education like Bush. His knowledge of everything is pathetic for sitting his ass on Capitol Hill for 25 years. Like I said, I don't think people know this clown at all. I bet if you flashed a pic of McCain and Obama and asked "who is this", many more Americans could identify Obama than "what's his face".

[griffi94]

9. i don't think the majority of the voters are politicial junkies tho

obama may have hit the scene like a rock star and he's certainly gotten a lot of face time in the last year. but mccain ran against bush in the 2000 primary and he's been a regular on the sunday morning talk show circuit for a decade. there was talk in 2004 of mccain running as kerrys vp choice, and he's been consistently labeled as a maverick for defying his own party. you may be right that most people couldn't identify a picture of mccain(i think they could)but everybody knows his name.
until about 18 months ago obama wasn't getting the face time. for a large portion of voters who vote but don't really follow politics
he's still really new.

[jezebel]

6. As much as I hate to say it I think this arguments supports picking HC for VP. nt

[caraher]

4. There's racial bias, "cell phone bias," but (donning my tinfoil hat...)

I'm actually more worried that the poll numbers are just completely fabricated to make an upset McCain "victory" in November superficially plausible (and making it 3 stolen elections in a row).

I'm in rural Indiana and I see exactly zero McCain signs, bumper stickers, and moderate visibility for Obama. I think those who won't vote for Obama out of racism are among the "20 percenters" who still support Bush and would not vote for a rational candidate if he were a white male millionaire or are likely to stay home in November because they view McCain as a poseur and not a true Christian "conservative" like *

I don't think McCain can really be breaking 40% in this state, let alone nationwide. The poll numbers are literally unbelievable, and that implausibility alone frightens me.

[Avalux]

7. I really believe the pop vote polls are heavily skewed towards McCain to manipulate us.

Two reasons:

The perception of a close race (which it is not) keeps people watching and reading the news - it's that entertainment factor. How many people keep watching a football game whent the score is 48 to 0 in the third?

Stealing the election. We can't forget what happened in 2000 and 2004. We KNOW there was funny business. If the corporate string pullers keep telling us the race is close and keep showing us polls to support it, then a McCain win won't shock anyone, right?

[Mass]

8. Ignore polls until September. This week, there was one with Obama +6 in Ohio and one with McSame +8.

This tells you all you need to know.

There was yesterday a poll showing McSame not gaining in the swing states and now the Quinnipiac says the opposite. It is way too early to know.