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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:36 PM
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In my inbox mass mailout email: Obama Presidency Could Threaten Israel's Existence
Just received in my inbox. This is an interesting new attack on Obama. Very insidious and very dangerous IMHO. If you are wondering I have no idea how I ended up on this spam list.

From: "The Press" <mjmpress2@gmail.com >
Subject: Obama Presidency Could Threaten Israel's Existence
To: "Al" address@removed
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:51:49 +0000
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(Jerusalem, July 23, 2008) At the conclusion of Barack Obama's visit to Israel, a noted Middle-Eastern scholar Professor Paul Eidelberg (President of a Jerusalem-based think tank and the author of "Jewish Statesmanship: Lest Israel Fall") is warning fellow American voters of the potential consequences for the state of Israel if Barack Obama is elected Prῥsident of the United States.

Eidelberg, founder and president of The Foundation for Constitutional Democracy (Foundation1.org) and a columnist for the Jewish Press, states:

I am issuing the sternest warning possible to my fellow Jews as well as all Americans who love their country and their brothers and sisters in Israel. Never in my lifetime has there been a Presidential candidate so utterly clueless about the importance of the State of Israel and the need for the U.S. to stand with her.

Barack Obama has only the most superficial knowledge about Israel and the Middle East, and the advisers he has hired, so-called experts, appear to have learned nothing from the history of this war-infected region. His trip to Israel is nothing more than a campaign ploy to make him appear to have expertise on an issue of which he is pathetically ignorant."

Noting that Obama supports Israel's withdrawal from the West Bank, which Eidelberg refers to as "Judea & Samaria," he states "This will cause the West Bank to become a base for international terrorism and a launching pad for bombing Israeli towns such as Sderot, which has caused the town to be depopulated. A withdrawal will trigger a flow of arms into these areas that will result in every city and military base in Israel to be within range of even the most rudimentary Arab missiles. When that happens I don't believe Barack Obama will defend Israel."

Eidelberg, a graduate of the University of Chicago, served as an officer in the United States Air Force and immigrated to Israel in 1976 shortly after authoring a trilogy on America's Founding Fathers, The Philosophy of The American, On the Silence of the Declaration of Independence, and A Discourse on Statesmanship. He is also the author of various books on the Arab-Israel conflict and has a weekly talk show on Israel National Radio.

"That Senator Obama should be a serious candidate for President of the United States is shocking to a person like me who has written extensively on America's Founding Fathers. I see Obama as a danger not only to Israel but ultimately to America as well. I therefore urge all Americans: do not be deceived by this cunning, smooth-talking and inexperienced politician whose agenda will endanger the two nations I love: Israel and America."

To schedule an interview with Prof. Eidelberg, contact: Laurakobbs@gmail.com

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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:38 PM
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1. I reply to those emails with trojan horses to wipe out their hard drives.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:40 PM by SoonerPride
Fight filth with viruses.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:52 PM
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10. Or reply by saying that you heard those emails ARE trojan horses that will destroy the senders'
computers. That might make them a bit more wary of opening all that crap.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:42 PM
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2. Just report them as a spammer to your ISP.
The system works.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:42 PM
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3. Compare and contrast
Sen. Barack Obama lays wreath at Israel halocaust memeorial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Bonzo goes to Bitburg
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:43 PM
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4. Debunk the email, but ALSO send the debunk to EVERYONE on the distribution list
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:44 PM by IanDB1
In fact, scroll ALL THE WAY DOWN to the BOTTOM of the email, and REPLY TO EVERYBODY... ALL THE WAY DOWN the chain.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:45 PM
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5. McCain Presidency Could Threaten US Existence

'Cause, ya know, he's an idiot.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:50 PM
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7. Now that is a great response to that email.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:50 PM
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6. Reply to all with subject: Dude! I thought you were in jail after you got busted for kiddie porn!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:51 PM
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8. Wow, Obama's visit REALLY scared them, didn't it ...
Don't they remember JIMMY CARTER, who really started
the whole Middle East peace process???? He was a
fucking DEMOCRAT, for God's sake!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:51 PM
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9. Paul Eidelberg: Lunatic Ultra Zionist nutcase.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:56 PM by newmajority
He's the leader of the "Yamin Israel" party, an extremist group who doesn't think the Likud party is extreme enough. :scared:
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:53 PM
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11. fyi, the unsubscribe links contain your email addy (might want to edit)
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:53 PM by foo_bar
A lot of spammers use web crawlers to harvest email addresses, although they sort of lucked out in your case; maybe they thought you'd publish their press release?
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:57 PM
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12. Chimpy and McBush are already destroying America.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:09 PM
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13. IMHO when foreigners tell Americans how to vote it always backfires

American Jews are not particularly overwhelmed by the political sophistication of Israeli Jews - especially those obviously attached to radical factions.

BTW did you send this on to the Obama campaign so that they could add it to their debunking file?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:17 PM
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14. Refute with the facts: Jewish voters support Obama in hordes and Obama's promised to support Israel.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:21 PM
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15. Though tit was written to address an earlier smear
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 10:21 PM by karynnj
The February 4th post on this anti-smear web site set up by Jewish Democrats would be a good response to this.

http://njdc.typepad.com/stopthesmears/
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:50 AM
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16. Paul Eidelberg is the leader of an Israeli right-wing fringe-nut party...
which has consistently failed to pass the threshold to get ANY Knesset seats in elections (and this is in a strict proportional-representation system that makes it much easier for small parties to get seats than is the case in most countries).

He considers practically everyone, including Likud and the National Religious Party, to be too left-wing and pro-Palestinian. He wants Israel to get rid of its 'socialist' nature and have a government more based on religious Judaism. Etc.

The Israelis don't take him seriously; so neither should the Americans.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:52 AM
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17. Hear Hear, Ma'am!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 03:08 AM
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18. Wow, sounds like the Jewish Taliban or Wahhabis...
and I thought Likud and the National Religious Party were nuckin' futz...

Re He considers practically everyone, including Likud and the National Religious Party, to be too left-wing and pro-Palestinian. He wants Israel to get rid of its 'socialist' nature and have a government more based on religious Judaism. Etc.


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