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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:05 PM
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Questions about Ageism and if we are being unfair to McCain.
It's a fact of life that as you get on in years, some of your capacities get diminished so for this one reason alone I think it's okay to bring up McCains age.

If some don't agree, I want to ask whether they would support a 9 year old to run for office.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:10 PM
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1. I don't want a homical dotard as President. Bitch at me all you want for it.
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:44 PM
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21. He's up for a job that can age him 20 years in 4; I can't imagine the stress his body would undergo.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:12 PM
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2. Not being unfair. Age is a completely valid issue.
My parents say he's too old - they know what they're talking about. The body and mind slow down. They can't imagine being his age and being able to handle the demands of the presidency.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:15 PM
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5. I agree but it does come up ,.. last night Joy from the View was filling in
and Fran Dreshcher (sp?) was on the panel for a while and took such offense at 'ageism' in regards to crits about some things McCain.

I just think you'd have to look at both ends of the age spectrum and then makes more sense.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:13 PM
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3. It's not his age that's the issue. The issue is maturity.
And he has none.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:18 PM
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9. ...and overall health -- not much of that,. either.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:22 PM
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12. something that just popped in my head.
Hillary had the sexism thing to run with, and Obama the racist one, both of which did have some kind of influence on the race and to all in life in general -
so McCain has to have an 'ism'! wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! it's not fair.

:rofl:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:15 PM
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4. For some, wisdom and judgement come with age.
For others, advancing years bring reduced capabilities and senility.

It's important for the country to know which track McCain is on. Personally, I think he's two stops from barking.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:15 PM
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6. the answer is NOOOO!!!!...
Fuck McCain - I hope I never hear of him again after November

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:18 PM
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7. anecdotaly, it's the elder people I've talked to who are the first to say he's too old.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:31 PM
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17. They should know, huh.. in this century and
climate I think a person with good energy is required and that wouldn't be mccain.
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:18 PM
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8. My husand is the same age as McCain
And I can tell you that some of his mental capacity has declined.
That is a simple fact of life.

Add to that the physical demands of the job and the fact that a 2 term
McCain would be 80!!! years old-no way would I vote for anybody that old
to run the country (leaving politics aside - I wouldn't vote for McCain if
he were 52.)
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:19 PM
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10. Actually, I Think Age Is Being Used To Cover Up McCain's Dishonesty
I think the agist remarks are actully a convenient excuse. Whenever McCain makes a mistake (usually in his favor), he just blows it off as a senior moment, rather than a convenient lie.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:25 PM
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13. I've noticed that too, the 'poor old man, give him a break' thing.
that dont fly with me when that poor old shakey thumb that is connected to a seized up brain, is hovering over the red button.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:21 PM
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11. Seriously - we don't want 50 year olds enlisting in the army
Why should we want a 90 year old running the army? People get old, they lose certain faculties. McCain is not a clear thinker nowadays. Bad enough that he's a republican...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:27 PM
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14. Is it age or is it mcsurge? And I'm
thinking Senator Frank Lautenburg here.

Are mccain's gaffe because he's too old for the job or he's having a hard time keeping his lies straight and gets flustered?

If you tell the truth you have less to remember.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:28 PM
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15. It's not about his age, but rather the fact that he is incompetent
as evidenced by his numerous gaffes, his obvious lack of command of basic facts, his infamous volcanic temperament. I can think of another guy with the same problems and he isn't old- George W. Bush.

The REASON for McCain's incompetency doesn't matter, because just like Bush, he lacks the intelligence, skills and temperament to be a good president.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:30 PM
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16. Don't think it's his age though, he really is that stupid
He made gaffes on foreign policy like referring to Czechoslovakia during his 2000 campaign. Even an idiot like Bush was able to use McCain's gaffes against him. McCain is a professional pander who is not smart enough to keep up or tie together all the BS he throws out to different groups. It's not that he's old, he's just dumb as a stump.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:34 PM
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18. I saw Mandela speak on TV a day or so ago.....

...he was clearly sharper at age 92 than McCain is. It's not just age, but sharpness, alertness, and the ability to speak without confusion that is important. Bush didn't pass this test, and neither does McCain.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:37 PM
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19. In McCain's case it's not the age that's the problem.
The problem is that he STARTED stupid. And nothing miraculous has come along to change that.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:41 PM
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20. You don't hear many people complain about...
Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.

:shrug:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:44 PM
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22. Some people age well, mentally and physically. Some don't.
And McCain is one of the ones who don't. Pretty simple, IMO.
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