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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:49 PM
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I've never seen the standards set so high for one person...
Sitting back and watching this presidential race keeps reminding me what a talented person Barac Obama is, especially for being so relatively young. This man simply does not act like a mere 47 years old. It is amazing.

Another thing that is so amazing is how the bar for him keeps getting set higher and higher and how he continues to excel. For example, prior to his overseas trip pundits and talking heads kept saying how important it was for him to "look" presidential (whatever the hell that means) and he has clearly done that. And then, just as he flies over that bar, people like Matthews set the bar even higher by commenting on how now Obama must not carrying himself like he thinks he has won the election all ready and seems to sound like he is arrogant for being so confident. This crap never ends.


Still, I find it so remarkable his campaign played the overseas trip so masterful. Also, I'm looking forward to the issues of Time and Newsweek after the election to find out the inside dealings in these campaigns.
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:51 PM
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1. I personally find him brilliant...always have
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:54 PM
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2. Nor have I, and it's even more striking coming on the heels of the lowest
standards ever...for the wanker-in-chief. :mad:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:58 PM
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3. Right. They keep raising the bar and Obama pole vaults over it, while McCain keeps winning
the limbo contest...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:00 PM
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5. Good metaphors.
One has to pole vault and the other has to do limbo.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:05 PM
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9. Thanks! (Just trying to picture McCain doing limbo sort of gave me a chuckle).
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:58 PM
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4. What's even more astounding is how low the bar is being allowed to be set
for the Republican candidate and for the present Republican administration. No matter how offensive and stupid they are are, they are not criticized nor held accountable by anyone it would seem, even those who should be in opposition to them. Our Democratic leadership is just as much as fault here as is the fawning press and Republican leadership.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:00 PM
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6. He's very inspirational.
But it makes me sad to reflect on my 41st year anniversary next month. In my time on this planet, I haven't accomplished 1/100th of what he has...
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:02 PM
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7. The entire campaign speaks to the professionalism and seriousness of our candidate.
This trip has been planned and executed beyond anything Mccain o his campaign could muster. And as a presidency, also. Wish voters understood the total package.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:17 PM
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14. But does it make you wonder....
if he and his campaign people are so crazy like a fox that they somehow goaded McCain into making all those comments about Obama needing to make a trip to Iraq and Afghanistan and then, bam, he does it and look what is happening. Amazing (and if they did somewhat plan all of this, it will go down in campaigning history as one of the wisest tactics).
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:28 PM
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19. Yep...
... ;)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:03 PM
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8. It reminds me of times when I have seen a double standard apply to other folks

who shared a similar "ethnic background".

Don't have to be better - have to be twice as good and they will still ask questions and have doubts.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:13 PM
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13. Totally Agree
They keep moving the goal post as well. This is something that the "old folks" said to us as children constantly - now I'm seeing it unfold on a world stage.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:19 PM
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15. And, it also seems like it's being done for the "youth" factor..
I think his age is also being thrown in there, too. But it's almost like, here, we have this prodigy and he has to complete all these tasks and then when he does, these pundits add more.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:48 PM
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26. I can attest to this firsthand. Today my boss suggested that I not post my "Ph.D." in my
email signature. What? I can't go into it because it just makes me angry but the implication was that having one isn't important. What? Then pay off my school loans, jerk! x(
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM
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32. OMG. Really??? I'm livid FOR you. What a jackass! You'd think
he'd be proud to have someone who CAN put Ph.D. in their signature because it makes the outfit look so darned GOOD.

Does he freakin' KNOW how hard it is to obtain that lofty status?

I tell ya, if I had my Ph.D. I'd make my husband call me "Doctor." Okay, not really, but still...



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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:19 PM
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38. Yeah. I could see the point if I worked in a doctor's office. I wouldn't be a medical doctor.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:20 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
But this is a policy and research development office. We do social science research on housing policy. So it is quite acceptable to have my suffix, just as the other Ph.D.'s who work here proudly display their's. I didn't give up 10 years of my life to ignore my accomplishments. I call it sexism and a lack of respect for those who work hard.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:26 PM
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41. Oh, you bet it's sexism, and probably some other isms, too.
I bet your boss is older and doesn't have his Ph.D. So add some jealousy and plain old mean spiritedness to it, and you have a pretty toxic brew there.

I'm also betting that your good work has been noticed by others and that he's an insecure jerk.

I'm so very sorry that has happened to you and I'm sending some good thoughts your way.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:34 PM
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43. Thanks, muchly. He probably sees me as Michelle Obama...
It's never good enough, is it?

I'm hanging in there. Pissed, but it's all good. ;)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:47 PM
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73. I suggest you keep notes with dates. He sounds like trouble...
Take it from an exec headhunter who's heard it ALL.

Make notes. Just in case.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:18 PM
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37. Listen to him and change your signature to say:
"Dr. Liberal_Stalwart71" instead of "Liberal_Stalwart, PhD"

;-)
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:24 PM
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40. Slight correction: "Dr. Liberal_HUSSEIN_Stalwart71"!!
LOL!!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:06 PM
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62. I'd suggest that they go pound sand...
...sounds like a real maroon...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:45 PM
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72. lemme guess-- boss does not have a Ph.D.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:12 PM
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34. "It takes 10 atta-boys to make up for one aw-shit" for some people.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:06 PM
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10. The same happened during the primaries...
When Obama was winning, the criticism was that why he couldn't close the deal. If it was close, the M$M questioned if he was electable despite the fact that Hillary Clinton was the favorite for over 2 years and did so beautifully in the beginning of the primary season. When Clinton did marginally better (in PA) and (TX), they attacked Obama's credentials rather than hers. Anything he did, any misstep was scrutinized 24/7, a la "bittergate." I see the same happening here with regard to public financing (he didn't flip-flop), FISA (giving others the benefit of the doubt but not Obama), on Iraq (McSame has evolved, Obama has flip-flopped). There's so many examples of raising the bar, the goal posts. Now it's about why Obama is keeping the race between him and McSame so close; whereas the real question is why is it that with Clinton and McSame's so-called "experience," why aren't *THEY* putting Obama away?!?!? They have all these presidential qualities and are prepared to be the CIC, so why aren't *THEY* beating him? It makes no sense to me.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:09 PM
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11. he has to be twice (or more) as good because he is AA. luckily, we have quite a special & unique
man in him.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:10 PM
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12. Obama must look "presidential": McCain just has to stand up.
Media analyzes everything Obama says to death, when McCain says anything, no matter how stupid, the media goes all googly.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:29 PM
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20. It's a replay of...
...Kerry v Bush in 2004. JMHO.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:23 PM
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16. I don't particularly care for a lot of his cetrist positions BUT
as a brown person (48 y.o.) who has suffered humiliation and discrimination all my career, who has had to run twice as fast and work twice as hard to keep up with the good ol' boys, I am in awe of his ability to maintain control of his emotions. Something I was not able to do. I realized after many years of emotional abuse in the workplace that all my white masters wanted was to crack me; to make me react out of anger, which I did, regretfully. Barack has set an example for me which I will try to follow.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:54 PM
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28. WOW!! You said it. It's amazing how he's able to keep calm
even under the most racially divisive conditions. I wonder if it must have pained him to dismiss charges of racism even when it was clearly evident that racism existed. If he had admitted it, the M$M would have accused him of playing the race card. It is easier and more acceptable to claim sexism than it is racism. I noticed that. This entire election season has truly opened my eyes about the human condition.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:23 PM
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17. Kerry had uncovered IranContra and BCCI and was battered for it instead of lauded and
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 03:26 PM by blm
certainly not helped, even by his own party. All that by his first term. Standards?

Obama is getting a thousand times more defense from the party than Kerry ever got - and it was Kerry who went to Europe and the Mideast last month to speak to the leaders there in preparation for Obama's trip.

Unnoticed. As usual. Even here at DU. It's going smoothly because it was PLANNED that way. Thankfully, Obama knows the real deal and at some point after the election more Democrats will get the story.

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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:32 PM
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21. I agree with everything you say...
...here, blm. Especially this:

"It's going smoothly because it was PLANNED that way."


And, just for the record, a few of us noticed. ;)
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM
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33. A few photos of JK popping up in Jerusalem. Few mentioned connection.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:34 PM
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22. I love John Kerry.
There are very few people I respect in congress, but these people are the folks I will always cherish:


John Kerry- Investing Iran-Contra, etc, and just being an honest to god patriot
Barbara Boxer - she is a champion and leader. She had the courage to stand up for Ohio following the 2004 election.
Russ Feingold- obvious reasons
Dennis Kucinich - obvious reasons
Ted Kennedy - obvious reasons


The Fab Five
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:42 PM
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25. Those are my faves - anyone who stands against government corruption earns respect
from me, and I'll include Maxine Waters for her efforts with Kerry to uncover CIA drugrunning. I would also like to see Leahy and Waxman move up onto that list soon.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:23 PM
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39. Yep. Obama seems to show more respect for one of his best surrogates
than people here do.

:thumbsup:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:25 PM
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18. But you have seen them set so low for another.

*, is by all accounts, a study in opposites from Obama, and the press still carries the water for him.

Talk about yer LibRul media.

I wonder how they sleep at night: knowing that they are responsible for the mess that is BushCo.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:35 PM
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23. If Obama DOES NOT turn this bottle of water into wine by January...


I will have a HUGE Obamafit!

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:41 PM
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24. He's inexperienced- so of course the bar's set high
As well it should be.

That said, it doesn't excuse the corporate media's behavior.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:02 PM
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30. The primaries are OVER.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:04 PM
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31. Why act like a sycophant and get snotty
over a FACT that's OBVIOUS to every informed person on the planet?

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:15 PM
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36. Your drawing attention to his
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:19 PM by JenniferZ
"inexperience" is the snotty thing. How about just being happy it's going so darned well? Anything wrong with that? And I don't for one nanosecond think that the bar is raised so high for Obama because of his "inexperience."

1. He's a black man.
2. He's the democratic candidate.

That's all. And THAT is obvious to every informed person on the planet, except greedy racist republicans or another group of people who shall not be named here.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:38 PM
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45. The rest of the world doesn't view things so parochially
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:38 PM by depakid
Nor do I.

Anyone who's both new on the stage and has a thin resume would be under heightened scrutiny on this sort of trip abroad.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:42 PM
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47. Apparently the rest of the world does.
If you've been paying attention to the rest of the world recently.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:55 PM
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53. Hardly
I think you mistake curiousity and enthusiasm for Bush supporter-like "confidence" in the man.

Like most rational people, they want to see how well he performs (and they want him to perform well, because like most rational people, they want to see an end to arrogant and destructive Republican policies).

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:02 PM
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56. So Obama has NOTHING to do with their enthusiasm, then? There
is NOTHING about how he has handled himself and how well he has performed on this trip that merits praise?

I think I was right in my first reply to you. The primaries are OVER. I don't personally give a rat's patoot if you like Obama or not. But continuing the same old tired lines about "thin resume" and "inexperience" is just not right. Not here. Not now. And certainly, pretending that other nations only like Obama because he's not Bush is irrational in the extreme.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:03 PM
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57. Ah, those ever moving goal posts.
The rest of the world! Err... uhh.. no... wait... I mean rational people! That's it! That's the ticket! Rational!

:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:06 PM
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61. Pretty soon it'll be rational people born at 1:02 a.m. on a Saturday
in October. Hee hee.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:48 PM
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49. Look, your going on about his "thin resume" and "inexperience"
is simply fighting the primary war all over again.

Because the rest of the world seems to be very, very happy with Obama. As are more than half the people here in the US.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:58 PM
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54. Bullshit- it's simply acknowledging a FACT
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:59 PM by depakid
and in the reality based community, facts are what we use to form accurate analysis of political situations.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:05 PM
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58. Sorry, but those are the same old arguments from February, March,
April, May, and a week in June. It's OVER. Time to get on board.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:07 PM
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63. You need to get over the obsession with the primaries
and start thinking honestly, objectively and critically.




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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:15 PM
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65. I have honestly, objectively and critically decided that your aim
is to refight wars that are long over. I have also honestly, objectively and critically determined that there is nothing constructive about your arguments.

In addition, I have decided that your criticism lacks objectivity.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:22 PM
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69. Think (or don't think) what you like
Been observing (and involved with) politics for a long time- and I call 'em like I see 'em.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:07 PM
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64. What FACT? Hillary and McSame's *FACTS*?
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 05:08 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
What are the *facts* that prove Obama is inexperienced. Look at his resume. 11 years in the IL State Senate and only a few less years than Hillary Clinton served in the U.S. Senate. How is that inexperienced? Please post real facts rather than Right Wing talking points.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:17 PM
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67. Yep. Nothing but old, tired talking points, sad to say. It appears
that nothing has changed even though we have our nominee. Go figure. :shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #64
70. Please.
I think? you know full well what I'm talking about- you don't need to go off and have a cow.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:35 PM
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44. Yet he's clearly more qualified than the other guy.
:shrug:

Sorry for you and yours.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:38 PM
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46. Whew. Thank you. :) nt
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:52 PM
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51. Puhleeze. The bar was set so low for bush that is was below sea level.
And he lacked experience and a working brain.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:55 PM
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52. Great point. And some with little experience turned out to be
pretty darned good presidents, and the bar had not been raised so high for them before they got in office, either.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:05 PM
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59. Bush got a pass because of his name
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 05:28 PM by depakid
and the familiarity with the people who it was assumed that he would surround his administration with.

It's a good point though- as an obviously incurious and dishonest "newcomer," he should have been assessed more thoroughly, both here and abroad. Not doing helped bring about a monumental disaster.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:52 PM
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27. Yet Obama keeps soaring over the bar
every time the MSM and Repigs raise it. He has Jordanesque hops, doesn't he?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:01 PM
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29. He always looks and sounds like he's done all this a million times
before. And we can be proud of the image of America that he's giving the world. Contrast that to McAnal and the Idiot in office now and it's even more remarkable.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:14 PM
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35. tweety sounds like he's jealous already.. who
does that? Says someone is acting like they've already won something just because they carry theirself with confidence?

Did tweety say bush was too cocky on the deck of the Lincoln? I rest my case.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:27 PM
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42. He's like Dick Fosbury, the 1968 Olympic high jumping champ.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:30 PM by TexasObserver
It's been a long time, and the sport of high jumping has been revolutionized since, but when he leapt up and cleared that bar, it was like magic in motion.

1. 1968 - Fosbury wins with "flop"
Although he didn't invent the technique that came to be known as the "Fosbury Flop," Dick Fosbury revolutionized high jumping with his gold medal performance at the 1968 Olympics. Instead of kicking his lead leg over the bar, Fosbury pivoted and sailed head first, with his back to the bar, then kicked his legs over. Fosbury cleared every height through 7 feet, 3- inches without a miss in 1968 and won with a then-Olympic record jump of 7-4 (2.24 meters).
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 06:59 PM
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74. And then Dwight Stone....heh
highjumpers are my specialty. ;)
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:51 PM
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50. OMG. They "kicked Hillary out of the race and now have to live with
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 04:56 PM by JenniferZ
their actions?" What the hell planet are you on? Obama is doing GREAT on this trip. Absolutely effing wonderful.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:02 PM
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55. I Know! How did he pick this team?
The Team - The behind the scenes campaign people, Axelrod and who ever they are. This is the first campaign where I've seen people talking about the campaign team and how organized and effective they are. Who are they? How do they just keep pulling out the wins like this?
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:05 PM
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60. My students call it "The Black Tax" Excel at twice the pace of their fellow students
receive the same grade.

Become the editor of the Harvard Law Review only to be called unqualified and undeserving because of affirmative action. The bar will continue to slide upward until they find one too high.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:16 PM
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66. ACTUALLY...
I was sure your line would go :

"I've never seen the standards set so high for one person... and so low for the other." At the bottom of the sea, actually...

And yeah, totally agree. I am looking forward to his Berlin speech tomorrow.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:18 PM
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68. Yeah, pretty soon we'll have to drill for McCain's bar instead of
that oil he wants so badly.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:28 PM
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71. It's very unusual to see smart people like Obama on teevee. That's
the shocker. Everyone on teevee is as dumb as a bag of crapola, and we've all gotten used to it. (Stewart and Colbert and Olbermann excluded, of course).
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