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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:23 PM
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Hillary did a much better job of attacking Obama
We all remember, it wasn't that long ago. When Hillary launched an attack against Obama this place was on fire and for better or worse we saw many of them as threatening. On the other hand, McCain's attacks are simply laughable and only succeed in making him look desperate and that he's crying to get attention.

At this point it's almost sad that McCain is just out in left field, I know many enjoy it and I do to an extent as well but this guy is obviously not all together there. Hopefully he won't fully crack until we are a little closer to the election so we don't have to deal with a lame duck replacement before we get a chance to vote.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:30 PM
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1. McLost wants it just as bad as Hillary, but he lacks Hillary's acumen
and discipline for the Dark Art of politics.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:31 PM
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2. Watch out, he's just getting started..they'll be A LOT worse than Hillary
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:32 PM
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3. Some think he's running her losing campaign.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:45 PM
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4. Strong negative
similiarities..you'd think they might have learned over the years.

My guess is ..it just wasn't important enough since they knew they have the m$$m behind them.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:00 PM
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8. Their pavlovian inclination to go negative is spectacularly misguided
particularly for McBush having seen how that strategy worked out for Hillary. Both she and McBush instinctively went old school going for the jugular in a contest that is being won on ideas.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:23 PM
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10. Yeah, "ideas"..and mcsurge's big idea is to run
negative ads in Berlin, PA, Berlin, New Hampshire, and Berlin, Wisconsin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Where, of course, people want the real thing.
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CatBO Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:48 PM
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5. Like her or not Hillary is a woman that you can take seriously
I voted for Hillary in the primaries, but later got turned off by her constant attacks. Still, even her most irrational critics take her seriously, which is amazing. In fact, some of them are as vociferously hateful of her as they are precisely *because* they take her so very, very seriously.

McCain? It's hard to take Grandpa Simpson serious. He's a crotchety old fart who gets more and more crotchety and laughable with every scream, grunt and groan. He's lost all sense of credibility and the harder he and his campaign reach for it, the more pathetic and laughable they seem.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:52 PM
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6. while she did well in the second half of the primaries, I think some of the
negative campaigning may have hurt her and wasn't very politically savvy in some instances....however, I always knew that she was a ridiculously smart person who could wipe the floor with McCain in a debate. McCain is pathetic and not very bright at all.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:55 PM
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7. Well, the difference between then and now is that
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 01:55 PM by Arrowhead2k1
we had our opponents in here freely stoking the flames. 'Twas ugly times indeed...
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desktop Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:06 PM
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9. McCain not to bright but some voters like that
I think we all forget sometimes that most voters, especially republicans, aren't to bright themselves, and identify with those who lack intelligence like themselves, aka George W. Bush. This is why they always try to pin the elitist name on Obama, Kerry, etc.. The game of getting elected is a time honored tradition of politics, not who's the smartest. Although I wish it were the smartest sometimes.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:26 PM
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11. I wouldn't say that - both her and McCain are/were flailing away
and hope something stuck.

nothing much stuck.
they could not win on their merits vs. his so the made up shit had to do.
and it doesn't
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