IMO, Jindal was not lying about being VP, McCain will dropout and endorse him for the nomination.

[CK_John]

I think Cheney is pulling the plug on the McCain dog and pony show.

The only question I have is, has Cheney found out who Obama will pick for VP because he will bring in a matched pair. If it is Obama/Clinton then Cheney will bring in Jindal/Palin.

We'll know more Thur with the big LA announcement.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Man, I will buy you the fanciest steak dinner if this goes down as you've laid it out.

However, you have to do the same for me if it's Obama/Kaine and McCain/Romney going into election night.

[CK_John]

9. Is Arby's too fancy, we'll see in Nov. n/t

[madaboutharry]

2. I don't think it is going to happen this way.

First of all, Jindal looks like he is 12 years old and no one knows anything about him. Secondly, he believes in exorcism which most people will find rather freaky.

[snowbear]

3. Oh brother.....

Please CK...

[Skittles]

7. larissa, you are remarkably composed, no matter how big and bored your smiley

:rofl:

[CK_John]

10. If you look at his bio you would think that they were talking about Obama. n/t

[snowbear]

19. CK....

Are you... let's see, how do I word this ... ...

...

...Are you infatuated with the guy?

I mean really..

Think about it.

You're comparing the exorcist to Senator Obama!!!

[CK_John]

21. Don't be so condescending, the GOP needs a counterbalance to Obama and he would be it. Age,

experience, education, and an ethnic background.

[Colobo]

4. Jindal is even easier than McShit.

[TheDonkey]

5. some sort of panic play a la batshit crazy Alan Keyes

[parasim]

6. Jindal, the exorcist? Riiiight...

Not saying it won't happen but... if it does, then all I'll say is, "Well, I'll be."

[mcctatas]

8. If you're right and we lose to the crazy excorcist guy...

we are well and truly fucked...

[Atman]

11. Man o man. Where to begin...

I think I'll begin with the most practical answer: It's as good as any guess I've ever heard, and certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, considering the group of criminals in office.

That said...wow...it raises so many possibilities. Millions and millions of Americans have used their votes to cast aside the old thinking that our nation could never elect a black man President. So, in essence, we've laid the groundwork for the GOP. Ever-adept at being able to profit from the most cynical of marketing "opportunities," the GOP will pull out all the stops to lure away those who've already demonstrated their racial-harmony street cred. Those voters, and millions more who didn't vote in the primaries, now can give -- and almost must give -- Jindal consideration. They've spent months saying "It's not his race that bothers me, it's his position on X." So now the GOP will offer a choice, and no one has to risk being labeled a racist for voting for the crazy bastard old coot.

What gives the op's scenerio credibility is the fact that no rational republican money-man will give money to McCain. You might as well stick the cash down the garbage disposal after wiping your ass with it. Obama's campaign has transcended "campaign" status and is well into movement mode.

It's awesome. It's exciting. And every day more people want to be a part of it. I don't know of anyone who wants to even stand within three feet of John McCain lest he break wind or try to pull a nickel out of their ear.

So, as I said, it's as good a theory as any.

.

[saltpoint]

12. Ok, CK_John, fun is fun.

This isn't going to happen.

I luv you tons, but McCain is a power-mongering desperado at this point and he will do anything it takes to win -- and win for himself.

There is a slight slither of a slim chance you are right and he'll step aside, but I am just not seeing it at all.

Jindal is poison for the GOP. The voodoo/exorcism thing notwithstanding, he just ain't the country club type and he ain't exactly the hyper-Protestant fundie nutbag type either, nutbag though he certainly is.

He's the political detritus that Katrina washed ashore and left for the gulls to peck at, and I don't expect to see him on the ticket or playing that much of a role in the McCain campaign from here on to November.

[CK_John]

15. He is Catholic (opus dei), former Congressman, current Gov of LA and I never

underestimate the Cheney machine. Jindal is Obama's doppleganger.

[saltpoint]

18. I disagree. The doppelganger who climbs ashore in Conrad's "The Secret

Sharer" is likely the protagonist's doppelganger, manifest as a mysterious, unexplained, figure emerging unaccountably from the floor of the sea -- the unconscious.

I'm not getting that frame of reference for Jindal and Obama.

Jindal's motivation actually reminds me of a Bond villain. Someone who in many cases comes to influence and converts the influence into power in unlikely venues -- Dr. No in a Caribbean island landscape; Goldfinger, a European, on a Kentucky horse ranch, etc.

Hence, Katrina washes away the Democratic gubernatorial advantage in Louisiana and deposits Jindal there instead.

Opus Dei, maybe, but most Catholics are not Opus Dei Catholics, especially in the U.S., where Pope John Paul was much loved until he started talking about birth control, and then U.S. Catholics by and large tuned the boy out.

Opus Dei has to operate as a secret society because otherwise they would repel 95% of their desired membership. There is money involved, and influence, but there were already a pile of Catholic voters in Louisiana from long-ago days, and Jindal's triumph is owed a lot more to Katrina than it is to anything he has accomplished or represents, IMO.

Louisiana right now is showing c. 20% advantage for the GOP. Landrieu will have to fight to hold her seat. It's likely safe Puke turf in the general. McCain doesn't need Jindal's built-in, accidental positives, and he can't afford to absorb Jindal's significant negatives.

I think McCain stays in, fights to the death in November, and in Minneapolis he picks up Willard for veep, or some other kook from the short list.

[Kool Kitty]

34. And Jindal is nuts.

Just sayin'.

[Olney Blue]

13. McCain wants the power- he ain't going anywhere.

[ruggerson]

14. I do not believe that you are correct

Cheney is due to undergo cyborg rejuvenation and recircuiting in a top secret week long operation three miles beneath the surface of the earth.

This is scheduled to happen in late August, as that is the only date the cyborg programmer had open.

Cheney is all powerful and all seeing, but will be completely out of commission during the exact time he would need to orchestrate all of what you suggest.

[zulchzulu]

16. Jindal has a .0000000000003% chance of being the Repig nominee

Not even getting into his record, his "exorcism" story and simply not being the brightest light in the broom closet, there is NO WAY the homophobic, xenophobic, theocratic zombies that make up the Repig Party would vote for him.

I would certainly welcome his candidacy. The only people who would vote for him would be 37 people in Jefferson Parish in Louisiana.

[CK_John]

20. He is a Rhodes Scholar like Bill C. He won with 54% in a 4 person race. You

really don't know zulch about voters of LA.

[zulchzulu]

39. I only lived in New Orleans for 6 years

I also worked for WWL. Tell me I know nothing about Louisiana voters....

I'd bet you the best dinner at Commanders Palace with Jim Bob Moffett as your busboy that Jindal will never be the nominee...

:rofl:

[tigereye]

17. seriously how likely is that?

:shrug:

[LostInAnomie]

22. Nationally, Republicans will NEVER vote for someone that looks like him.

Never happen

[vaberella]

25. I agree. They'd sooner tell God, "I'd like to be Black for a day."

[Tutonic]

23. I don't think Jindal plays that good out west where Mccain is going to

need to carry several states if he is going to have a chance.

[vaberella]

24. We'll cream Jindal. He's the worst pick. The man thinks he's an exorcist.

[saltpoint]

26. If McCain wanted to counter Obama as a precedent-setter, he would

choose a female veep candidate -- someone like Carly Fiorina or Kay Baily. He could rub it in if Obama does not choose Sen. Clinton for the blue veep spot.

But a lot of the corporate country-club type Republicans don't really care much for Carly, is my guess, and they could likely do without Kay Baily. I think Kay Baily wanted out of the Senate and into the governor's job in Texas, and Goodhair outmaneuvered her. She's low-profile in the Senate, outclassed and outmatched in brains & charisma & purpose by almost everyone in the chamber.

And Fiorina's a loose cannon. We'd rip her to shreds on being a failed CEO in a time when CEOs have collapsed, Enron-style, taking workers' life savings with them, or are over-paid pigs sucking at the public trough.

I think the gals are out of it for the GOP for sure.

There's talk that McCain would like to choose Tom Ridge, but Ridge brings a mixed blessing. He makes Pennsylvania competitive but at the same time the fundies won't like McCain picking a pro-choice veep nominee. They already distrust McCain ideologically and a Ridge choice would confirm their worst misgivings. McCain might do the Hail Mary and pick Ridge anyway, but it's an iffy proposition.

For Gulf coast folk, I think McCain is more likely to choose Haley Barbour than Bobby Jindal. Barbour used to more or less run the Republican Party and retains a fat Rolodex to match his expansive ego and massive corruption. A former co-worker of mine had truck with Barbour in a particular hearing on health care and I assure you, the report on Barbour's manner and manipulation prompted astonishment and coarse recollection on the part of my friend. Barbour is imperious, deceitful, fund-savvy, and absolutely full of himself -- a perfect choice for McCain if it's a southern Governor McCain wants.

Huckabee is every bit as folksy as anyone from the cast of HEE HAW but he carries some significant negatives even for fundies. I describe Huckabee as shallow and arguably psychotic. Sam Brownback almost upended Huckabee in Iowa. The course was designed so that only one of the nutbag fundie candidates could advance and by the hair of his chinny-chin-chin, it was Huckabee. His wife is well, odd. His sons reportedly torture animals. And Huckabee is almost all charm and no mind or muscle. A fiercely unimpressive human being with paltry achiement and a dangerous affiliation with Biblical literalists. He's a risk for McCain, who in any case leads handsomely in Arkansas at the moment in all polling.

Thune, Pawlenty, Portman, and Romney appear to me to be likely short-listers, with an outside chance -- don't laugh -- of Jim Talent. Talent lost in 06 to a far superior candidate but Missouri remains up for grabs in the general in 08 and Talent has the residual support & organization to keep Missouri red. That would be an unfortunate outcome as far as I'm concerned, but Talent brings only positives -- he's relatively young, he's generally acceptable, he has no real demographic negatives, he has the Missouri State rolodex, he won't outshine McCain, and he has absolutely nothing else to do anyway.

[CK_John]

27. It's no longer about McCain. n/t

[saltpoint]

30. Unless he literally steps down from his presumptive-nominee position, it

most certainly is about McCain.

He is the GOP nominee absent only the technicality of a first-ballot delegate count in Minneapolis on September 1 - 4.

[vaberella]

28. My problem with all this is the fact it disenfranchises ALL the repub voters.

Which in essence are voters like we are, misguided as some of them are. But the debate becomes, do the repubs care about votes or winning?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

29. I'm sure the Republicans will go with a dark-skinned, "Muslim-looking" guy.

:rofl:

[vaberella]

31. Oh no...that's too much...

:rofl: If you were a thread,I'd rec you.

:kick:

[CK_John]

40. Didn't they bring in a black from MD to run against Obama in his Senate race in Illinois. Just

because it didn't work, doesn't mean they will not try again.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

41. Alan Keyes?

:rofl:

He was a sacrificial lamb. The Republicans knew Obama would slaughter him. You think they're seriously going to bet on Jindal based on that theory?

[Douglas Carpenter]

32. you cannot possibly be serious

That's not going to happen.

I have read some wacky conspiracy theories on this site. And I have read a lot of incredibly naive comments on this site. This combines both.

The entire mime of the Republican Party in this election is about experience along with the standard Republican imagery of being the party of mainstream America. Selecting in some secret back room deal someone that most Americans have never heard of who is a proud religious extremist of Indian origin is simply not going to happen.

[scheming daemons]

33. I really want access to the drugs that CK_John has..... these conspiracy theories of his are awesome

[kskiska]

35. Well, I sure hope that whomever he chooses has been to Iraq and Afghanistan

at least a dozen times.

[Douglas Carpenter]

36. the O.P. is suggesting that Sen. McCain will step aside and turn the PRESIDENTIAL nomination over to

Jindal in some Cheney orchestrated secret conspiracy.

I suppose it is possible as a plot for a pocket book novel or afternoon movie.

[Vinca]

37. It's not going to happen. Especially not with Jindal.

The recall business would come back to bite him and he'd immediately go into the big spender category for not vetoing huge pay raises for politicians. I think the Grand Old Perves are accepting the fact they don't have a chance in hell unless Mr. Diebold steps in.

[WeDidIt]

38. Tighten up the tinfoil

McCain ain't goin' nowhere. He's the nominee. No way does the GOP waver now.