Horsey: "A John McCain Magazine Cover"

[ClayZ]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?ID=...

[uponit7771]

1. K & R

[Skidmore]

2. K & freakin' R

[whistle]

3. Keep this going

[NatBurner]

now THAT'S satire

[Egnever]

4. interesting .. did the national review one come out first ?

Cause that's pretty damn close to outright plagiarism.

[Egnever]

5. Also theres a distinct difference in these two covers

one builds on kernels of truth while the other relies completely on lies. I think the one with the kernels of truth pulls off satire much better.

[EstimatedProphet]

7. Only if you see that the joke is about the people outraged at the New Yorker

[Egnever]

8. Who is outraged?

and what joke you talking about?

[EstimatedProphet]

10. A sizeable portion of DU, right now...

And of course the joke is the NY cover.

[Egnever]

12. still not sure I am understanding you

the ny cover is a joke because it made people outraged?

[EstimatedProphet]

15. You really don't get this? Hmmm...

Rather than explaining it here, let me send you to these links, since it's a big issue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Read through them and you'll see what I mean.

[ClayZ]

27. Huh?

[thewiseguy]

6. Thats not the cover of National Review.

[Egnever]

9. its not?

[thewiseguy]

11. No its not. Just a cartoon.

National Review would never put that cartoon on their cover.

[Egnever]

13. Oh its inside the mag.

Got ya.

[thewiseguy]

14. Its not inside the magazine either.

Many of us had said that National Review would never do to McCain what New Yorker did to Obama. So somebody tried to make a joke about it and thats the cartoon.

The cartoon fails because it is not really the cover of National Review or in it for that matter.

[Egnever]

22. ahhh so it a respons to the NYer

well i stick to my original opinion the one that has the kernels of truth behind it comes off as the better satire IMHO.

[pollard1]

16. I think its from the Seatle Post

today?

[thewiseguy]

18. wow how come you got banned?

I thought you were behaving nicely.

[AllentownJake]

24. IP Address?

or some other detective work by the Mods maybe.

[burythehatchet]

17. Again, for the mentally challenged: One cover is true, the other is not.

[Voice for Peace]

19. But maybe more cartoons like this one will make the rounds in the mainstream press.. good enough

[glitch]

23. Horsey missed it by that much -- still, good cartoon though.

More finessed than the New Yorker's.

Now if he'd had McCain in Nazi garb with Bush in a Hitler pose on the mantel, and Cindy in a dalmation fur coat...
that might make a better comparison.

[Voice for Peace]

20. perfect..

I hope more cartoonists will step up to the plate.

[Cha]

21. Horsey's too

good!

[ClayZ]

29. I think so, too!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. That's not satire either.

[berni_mccoy]

26. The problem is, There is Truth in Horsey's Cartoon, while NONE in the New Yorker's.

[Vinca]

31. That's it exactly. No comparison. The New Yorker is a satire

of a lie, the McCain parody is based on fact.

[rndmprsn]

28. K&R

[Monk06]

30. Both lack wit or irony. There is an element of sarcasm in both but

it is used merely to reinforce personal stereotypes
So, neither are examples of satire.

1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

[eleny]

32. Kick

That hits the nail on the head. Thanks.