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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:49 PM
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Why isn't Bill Clinton aggressively raising money for the DNC?
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 06:57 PM by rhombus
Has anyone heard what Bill Clinton is doing lately for the DNC? Has he been raising money for the monumentally cash-strapped DNC? If not, why? Bill has a huge network of friends who can help the DNC raise money. The RNC's cash on hand numbers (over $60 million) is scary when you compare it to the DNC's $4 million.


We need everyone on board. I hope we see more of Bill Clinton and Al Gore hitting the campaign and fundraising trail for the Democratic ticket much more seriously.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:50 PM
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1. You should spend less time worrying about Big Dog and raise money for the DNC yourself. n/t
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 06:50 PM by Kerry2008
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:51 PM
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3. ...
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:52 PM
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4. Yes?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:54 PM
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7. Just wanted you to know that I read your post. n't
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:56 PM
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9. And thank you for doing so!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:58 PM
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13. Nothing really. Reading DU keeps me off the streets and out of
trouble. :)
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:01 PM
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17. Me too. And it's quite entertaining.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:52 PM
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5. Oh come on
Is this really a hit diary? There's nothing wrong with wanting to see more action from Bill and Al to help the DNC.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:53 PM
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6. Bill is still trying to help his WIFE settle her debt. Wife comes first, go figure.
Bill is on board.

He'll be helping Obama AND the DNC.

Give him time. Hillary is his first priority, and I'm glad to hear it.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:56 PM
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8. Ok, I see your point
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 06:56 PM by rhombus
But the thing is I haven't heard of Bill Clinton doing any major fund raisers to help Hillary either. Maybe he's making some behind-the-scenes phonecalls. Who knows. I wish though that we got to see Bill host a major fundraiser for Obama or the DNC. The appearance alone would help drive donations to the DNC.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:57 PM
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11. I'm SURE he's helping his wife. Are you kidding me?
If you can't see it or hear it, doesn't mean it's not happening.

Hillary comes first.

Then he'll be helping Obama.

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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:57 PM
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12. I agree, he's a proven fund raiser that should at least be helping
to get Hill's debt behind her.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:04 PM
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21. Pfft. She shouldn't come first; she's not running for President anymore. Obama is.
The DNC needs the money worse. (This is known as 'strategic thinking', by the way.)
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:05 PM
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23. You think he wouldn't put his WIFE FIRST?!?? Wow, you're smart.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:08 PM
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25. I think he shouldn't if he actually cares about getting a Democrat elected.
But then given Bill's track record on this in the past it's pretty clear that's not really one of his priorities.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:10 PM
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28. He should put his WIFE on the back burner? Some of you arent clearminded when you attack the Clinton
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 07:10 PM by Kerry2008
Sheesh.

And saying the only two term Democratic President in many years isn't committed to electing Democrats is like me saying all gay people should burn in hell for being gay (I'm a homosexual)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:13 PM
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30. I don't think so.
The only two-term Democratic president...so what? How many governorships and Senate and House seats did the Democrats lose under Clinton's presidency? How many states did the DNC abandon to the Republicans under his leadership of the Democratic Party?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:14 PM
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31. Are you accusing Clinton of destroying the Democratic party? LOL.
You really aren't clearminded.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:16 PM
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35. Destroying? No.
Of being a vastly overrated and rather mediocre President who didn't actually do his party much good? Yes.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:16 PM
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37. Mediocre? OK, now I KNOW you're not clearminded.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:20 PM
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40. Because I don't have the same starry-eyed regard for Bill Clinton you do?
So he was the first Democrat elected to two terms since Franklin Roosevelt. So what? That doesn't make him a great president, nor does it excuse, in my opinion, his role in shifting the Democratic Party to the right, in enacting welfare 'reform', in expanding the 'war on drugs', in pushing for neoliberal free-trade reforms, or a dozen other things I could mention. Are you so certain that YOU'RE clearminded?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:25 PM
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44. I'm not starry-eyed, I know the Clintons fault. I'm a Democrat, however.
And I give credit to Clinton for the best economic prosperity in our nations history, and for giving eight years of peace.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:27 PM
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45. The economic prosperity wasn't Clinton's doing, though.
You know when else the US experienced an unprecedented economic expansion, fuelled by the growth of maturing new technologies? The 1920's. And that bubble burst, too, just like the tech bubble of the '90's. Do we remember Calvin Coolidge as a great president?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:28 PM
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47. Using the RW's favorite talking points? Are you sure you're at the right discussion board?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:31 PM
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49. I've been here longer than you have, and I would hazard a guess that my politics are further left.
So yes, I'm pretty sure I'm at the right discussion board.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:32 PM
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53. I'm sorry, it's just...you use so many of the Republicans talking points.
You had me confused.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:34 PM
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55. Republicans dislike Clinton for welfare reform, neoliberal trade policies, and the drug war?
Since when?

I think you have yourself confused. Or maybe your reading comprehension is broken.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:35 PM
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56. Yes, cherry pick his long list of accomplishments for something I'm bound not to agree with.
You're probably one of the ones who throw fits because Obama was "moving to the center" right?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:38 PM
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58. No, because this is an election, and that's what you do in elections.
However, I rather suspect that Obama will govern more from the centre-left than the centre-right when elected. You can't compare what a candidate says in the middle of a campaign to what a former president actually did during his term in office.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:11 PM
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29. They are both multi-millionaires, her debt is a drop in the bucket.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:15 PM
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33. Family is first, politics is not even second.
:eyes:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:16 PM
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36. BINGO! We have a winner n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:20 PM
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41. Who gives a crap about the DNC, the presidency or anything else if it comes to family?
Family and loved ones should always come first, everything else is secondary.

:crazy:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:25 PM
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83. The fact is that it is money, just money
WJC and HRC made $109 million in the last 7 years. If they have to eat their loan - they eat it.

Democrats should care that the vendors get paid - because of the real hardships it will cause people who trusted that working for HRC they could afford to extend credit.
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:09 PM
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26. but you don't mention Al, and bill Clinton doesn't work for the DNC
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:04 PM
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22. Sorry, but I think it is a legitimate question. If the poster were a former president I'd be more
interested in how often he is stumping for DNC coffers.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:06 PM
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24. I think as a husband he's worrying about his wifes debt before anything else.
Just a hunch.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
39. I think that is a fair response
I just didn't think the OP needed people lashing out at his question.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:28 PM
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46. It's not lashing out to point wives come first n/t
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:41 PM
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61. I didn't say that was lashing out. What was lashing out is
wanting to know what the poster has done and dismissing his question out right in your first post and the first reply to this thread. It would have been much better if you would have just left the more reasonable response about his wife.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #46
84. He can do both at the same time. His and HRC's closest donors
are maxed out for her - that is why she wanted Obama to appeal to his donors. But, those same people can contribute to Obama or the DNC.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
74. Pity, he's not raising money .. particularly since they expect Obama to
pay Hillary's debt.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:50 PM
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2. Probably because Hillary needs to pay off her bills first
Can't blame him for taking care of personal business first.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:56 PM
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10. My goodness, everyone is sooo concerned today... nt
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:00 PM
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16. blatantly obvious to who?
Still sour grapes on your part, huh?
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Now thats bullshit and you know it
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
38. Hear, hear!!!!
:thumbsup:
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:24 PM
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42. Oh God, what a ridiculous statement
Sen. Clinton lost because she listened to a lot of bad advice and ran 1/2 the campaign she could have.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:01 PM
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18. Because he's busy raising money for aids and world hunger?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:03 PM
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19. And his wife n/t
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:10 PM
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27. Bill Clinton has raised millions for the DNC over the years
after all the bad-mouthing of him a lot of Democrats did over the past year, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't really feel rabidly enthusiastic about filling their coffers now.

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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:14 PM
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32. he is more likely aggressively chasing skirt to drown his sorrows
of losing a chance at a third term as president.

conspiciuousl silent, he is.
and if he was doing all the stuff some people is this thread are saying, the media would have picked it up and ran it oer and over - they love bill and hillary - they are drooling at the 'magnificent' clintons, the wonderful team, etc etc.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:15 PM
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34. You people are disgusting. The anti-Clinton posts here are worse than at GOP boards.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:25 PM
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43. That they are, and they can get away with it because it's OK as long as
nothing negative is being said about the nominee. Bashing the Clintons endlessly it's still acceptable.

For all of those soooooo concerned about Bill's whereabouts, he's been mainly traveling for his foundation. Though he spoke at the governor's annual meeting this past Saturday in Philadelphia and gave a damn good speech, not that most here would care.

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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #43
52. Heard good snippets
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #52
62. Thanks!
:D
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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. Hillary herself said good speeches don't mean nothing!
so whats up with that?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:44 PM
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63. Empty words mean nothing.
Bill was talking about several programs that could be implemented to help in various areas. Programs that in some cases his foundation had already helped to implement overseas. So you see, not just words but actions too.
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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:31 PM
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51. i think being a consistent adulterer is more disgusting.
and getting people to defend it as well.
what do you think of the McCain/Cindy courtship - just curious if you keep the same thoughts on that one.

personally i really don't care what bill does, but he has himself made light of it like it's just soemthing we red blooded boys do. chuckle chuckle. you know what i mean, right boys? chortle chortle
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:39 PM
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59. You know what I think?
That as long as people are adults and no one is forced into it, anyone can have sex with whoever they choose. It's a private matter and I didn't give a shit then and I care even less now. Ditto goes for McCain's private life, and that of any other politician for that matter.

Live and let live.....
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #51
86. Do you enjoy having conversations with yourself?
You are very off topic.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:31 PM
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48. Food Fight!
:popcorn:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #48
60. You pooch, stay out of it or you're going to get it too!!!
:mad:



:7
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #60
66. I laughed out loud..I did.
Still laughing--too funny! Thanks!

:rofl: :hi:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Nothing like a schoolyard fight to rev up the juices!!
:hi:
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:31 PM
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50. Bill didn't help our 2004 guy, and don't expect it now. Waiting for 2012?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #50
57. He didn't help in 2004? Your memory is wrong.
Would you like me to post photo evidence?
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #57
75. On his book tour could not mention Kerry, only compliment Bush and not find fault.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 08:11 PM by MarjorieG
Even in Tour of Duty, Brinkley mentioned the Clinton working at odds, which should be instructive to Kerry going forward. This was to hold the place for Hillary, doing things of commission and ommission. Maybe holding others back as well. We had trouble getting the party to support as surrogates, etc. Plus the Carville stab in the back about election night plans to contest, and provisionals fell away. That's Woodward's book.

Clinton walked a fine line, and I can appreciate where he'd rather have been back at the White House next year. Those plans were in motion since the late 90s, and even took his attention away in 2000, and Hillary's Senate run.

(A Kerry fan for decades make me more sensitive still, as a disclaimer, but also more aware, maybe, of the unfolding in that campaign.)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:46 PM
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64. I've been wondering about that too.
There will be plenty of time to settle Hillary's campaign debt after November.

But the window for raising money for the DNC for this election is very narrow. It would be helpful to have everyone moving towards the same goal of getting a Democrat elected in November. And to that end it's important for the DNC to be competitive with the RNC.

It's called prioritizing.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #64
76. Needs to be paid by Convention or swallowed. Disagreement with decision to continue at such a loss.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. Incorrect.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 08:19 PM by woolldog
Her loan to herself needs to be paid by the Convention. Not the rest of her debt. That can remain outstanding for some time.

Since she's already said she's not interested in paying back the loan to herself, I don't see the urgency.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:51 PM
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65. Looks like GD: Primaries is back. Mods?
What a flame war. Look, Barack Obama is the nominee. It's time for Bill Clinton and all Dems to get on board - including those posting here.

Hillary will not be the nominee. 2016 isn't far away at all. This is DU. Take it elsewhere if you can't deal with any of that, please.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. But dad, not fair, they started it!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 07:57 PM by Beacool
:cry:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #65
69. Hell, Beacool, I'm still trying to get over my Rosalynn Carter post.
My favorite First Lady babe of all time.

I bet you guessed that already.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. Well, can't say that I blame you.
She looks very lovely in that photo and she's a terrific person who has done a lot for humanity.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:04 PM
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70. I don't know
However I'm guessing that it has to do with taking a break after campaigning for his wife for 15 months everyday. I don't like some of his behavior during the primaries however the man can take a break from politics for a month or two. He doesn't owe us anything right now, just like I didn't owe him a vote for his wife.

Could be wrong.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:05 PM
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71. Do you know for a fact that he is eschewing Dean's wishes, or are you just full of shit?
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 08:08 PM by tritsofme
Maybe the DNC wouldn't be so cash strapped if they would stop being so inept and ask President Clinton to headline some fund raisers.
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:06 PM
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72. His wife's campaign got destroyed by Obama
I don't blame him for being resentful. Family comes before politics, sorry to say.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:44 PM
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78. "Destroyed by Obama." You mean Obama won more delegates?
I don't recognize DU any more.
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:46 PM
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79. You mean there was a contest,
and Obama won?

Sounds like one would be a good sport
in losing, especially one who called
politics a blood sport.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:04 PM
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80. First, because he didn't enthusiastically help Kerry in 2004; Second, because he's working
aggressively to destroy Barack Obama; and Three, because politics has never been about the Democratic party or the country for the Clintons, especially Bill. Politics has always been about Bill.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:25 PM
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82. Soooo, you know Bill that well...........
Yep, Bill doesn't give a damn about the country, it's people or even the rest of the world.

He's also now "working aggressively to destroy Obama".

Nice of you to enlighten us on Bill's character and his plans.

:crazy:
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:31 PM
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85. The haters have a logic unto themselves. Never-the-less Bill Clinton remains the best president
of the last 40 years. Our country is far better off due to his work and leadership.

It's funny how Obama won't be blamed for losing if he loses--it will supposedly be all the Clintons' fault.

Ironically, the truth is that he has no shot of winning without Hillary's help. You would think he would say something decent like "I'm proud to call her my friend." Oh wait...McCain said that. I guess Obama doesn't want to be accused of plagiarism.

Steve
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:16 PM
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81. Leave Bill alone. nt
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:43 PM
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87. Locking....
While a valid point can be made for some of this, we are beyond the Primaries at this point, and bringing in stuff that just stirs the pot to bring back animosity is not going to help.
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