Cindy McCain was just asked about reports that she started seeing John while he was still married-

[jenmito]

months before he was separated from his first wife as other articles have reported, and she refused to answer, just saying that she and John have been married for 28 years and they're very happy, and she will not talk about personal issues. The reporter didn't have any follow-ups. This was at a NASCAR event and the interviewer was Brianna Keilar, a CNN correspondent. (It was a softball interview all in all, though, made to show her "softer side.")

[Kdillard]

1. Finally someone had the guts to ask and surprise she refused to answer.

[jenmito]

4. I'm not surprised, though.

[saracat]

2. Sorry but why should she answer? And in fact it does say something that she, who could have done a

lot better, stayed with him all these years. She must have loved him for whatever reason. Bill and Monica and Chelseas reaction weren't our business either. I thought Cindy's answer was fine.

[Bluerthanblue]

3. "I thought "the answer" was fine"

and I think the question was too.

I'm glad to see that at least this reporter didn't treat her any differently- even if it IS really not 'our' business.

peace~

[jenmito]

7. It speaks to her husband's character, which is how the reporter framed it (and I failed to

mention). And it's about HER character, too. She knew he was married. How do you know she could've done a lot better?

[Bluerthanblue]

9. you know you have a point- and what does McCain's military history

really matter?

Are we electing someone to fly bombers? Be a hostage? Or are we looking for someone to lead and manage a nation?

Good point Jen!

peace~

[saracat]

11. She was gorgeous , young and worth millions! I can't see what she saw in him.

[jenmito]

13. Maybe she wanted something she couldn't have-a married man...

maybe it made her feel like she accomplished something, stealing him away from another woman.

[saracat]

19. Odd, Carol McCain supports her former husband and she is the party most effected. why does this

bother you so much? Reminds me of those that were really "angered" the Bill and Monica situation and thought it was their business too. And if that were all there was too it, she wouldn't have "stayed' married to him. She is the one with the money after all.

[jenmito]

20. His lack of integrity bothers me, as did Bill Clinton's lack of integrity. But at least Bill didn't

leave his wife. Why are you so defensive? Are you going to vote for Obama?

[saracat]

22. Parrot < parrot. Asked and asnswered but it is actually none of your business.

Did you know we have secret ballots in this country? it is part of our Democratic tradition.

[saracat]

24. Did someone cheat on you? You are the one that sounds defensive.

But I recognize that isn't my business to ask so you don't have an obligation to answer.

[jenmito]

35. No. Nor did I have an affair with a married man which would speak to my character.

[saracat]

40. I am glad you have such a sterling character.

Perhaps you have heard of the phrase "judge not lest ye be judged" but I guess that wouldn't apply to you.

I will say that judging those whom you don't know and without any "real" knowledge of their situation also speaks to character.

[jenmito]

43. So am I.

I've heard it but I don't mind being judged at all. Think of me what you want. I'm not a public figure running for any office.

[saracat]

53. But judging other and inflicting your morality on them is okay with you?

Hmm. If left to you we wouldn't have amny democratic presidents. We would have to disown nearly all of them. Jefferson, FDR, Kennedy , Johnson . Even saintly C arter admitted to lust in his heart for other women.

[Bluerthanblue]

68. hmm... and You weren't "judging" Cindy when you called her 'gorgeous, young

and fabulously rich?"-

What is that other than "judgement"? Cindy's got value- in your view- value that others don't-


and it seems McCain saw what you saw-
A broken, fat, washed up ex-model Carol, who didn't even have big bucks to sweeten the pot or a father who could help him go places vs. the gorgeous, young, fabulously rich 'babe'?

you sure you aren't inflicting your own version of "morality" on Cindy, but yours is simply different?

Personally I admire Carol's character- she CHOSE not to waste the rest of her life holding onto resentment and anger towards McCain for the way he treated her.- which was shitty.

You may not see what he did as any big deal - but even McCain himself confessed to his asshole-ry.

From what I've seen and heard of him, I think it's too bad he didn't really take what he did to Carol too much to heart, because if he did, I would have expected him to quit treating women like things, rather than equals.

:shrug:

[jenmito]

71. kick...

and recommend. :)

[saracat]

76. No I was not.When Cindy got involved with John she was young, 22 or 24

gorgeous, and she was worth millions. It wasn't a value judgment .It was a "fact". I didn't place a value on those qualities. Nor do I place a value oh his ex wife's good qualities. I do not know any of these people.I have also never said what John did was no "big deal".Do not put words in my mouth. I happen to believe that adultery is wrong but that is my "personal" opinion.

The only time I might be considered judgmental was when i said that didn't see what cindy saw in mccain. I still don't .For that matter i don't know what Carol saw either.


What I did say is that whatever happened many years ago is none of our business.

[tishaLA]

83. Strange, then, that you said this about Michelle Obama:

"Michelle Obama is very ugly stuff herself so this is a reasonable conclusion. She is just a nasty hate filled vessel"

[saracat]

87. Otoh , I have al;so defended Michelle and signed my name in the NYTimes.

I don't remember the contest of this remark but no doubt it was in response to something she said or did during the primary.

[Name removed]

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[saracat]

106. Primary wars again? Give it a rest. I have never said I supported Obama in the Primary

nor did I say I will vote for him now with enthusiasm. I am voting for him because he has a D after his name. And I said whatever I wanted too during the Primary.

[beac]

112. As part of the divorce settlement, McCain agreed to pay for

Carol's medical care for life. I wouldn't be surprised if "never bad mouthing" McCain was one of the terms she had to agree to to get that deal.

[Alexander]

10. I think I see one of these...

[saracat]

14. Actually, you don't but that is a lovely animal!

:hi:

[Alexander]

73. My bad. I see two of them.

[JackORoses]

84. take your McCain-loving back to Arizona

[saracat]

98. I am certainly not a Mccain lover. You are completely wrong about that. I do not think he is the

right choice for many reasons.I do not even defend him in this thread, nor do I plan on voting for him. Why when anyone has a difference in a "philisophical", or "mannerly" approach to the campaign does one autonatically suppose the poster is a McCain voter? It is almost like some want me to be. However, I will not be supporting or voting for McCain.
He has contributed "Nothing " to Arizona.We are a"feeder" state and have nothing to show for it.
And he hasn't bothered to do anything for us and that is another reson Ariozonans in general aren't really excited about Mccain.he hasn't done anything for his own state as a Senator, how can we expect he will do anything for the nation as President?

[waiting for hope]

113. We have seen the enemy and it is us.

This is playing the Republican game - for the three years I've been posting here, it has been vilified as being low, crass, unfair and unworthy because it demonstrated an unwillingness to go after the issues that mattered and were important. I could give a flying f*ck about McCain's personal life - it's his policy positions that need to be attacked for what he did over 20 years ago is not going to decide how he will govern if he were to take office. As for saracat voting for a republican, get a grip, that would never happen. But comments like yours have driven people away. Obama has not attacked McCain's military service, not would I think he would use his personal life against him, for he knows all to well that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Take a page from Obama's book and concentrate on attacking McCain on his record, his flip flopping statements, his inability to connect to what is going on in the real world.

[dsc]

18. because her husband is more than willing to tell millions of other

people that they are too immoral to be married.

[saracat]

26. But that is her husband.She isn't running for anything.But you could attack on that

position if she agrees with him.That is legit.

[dsc]

79. you can't ask him without asking her

[CTyankee]

47. Boy, not me! I am so tired of these Republican "family values"

I could vomit. The hypocrisy really stinks here. They cloak themselves in family values and are all sanctimonious about Bill Clinton. Enough! Time to expose her and him for what they are!

[jenmito]

49. Exactly. He touts his marriage as a reason GAY couples should NOT be allowed to adopt children.

How does he figure?

[newmajority]

107. It's worse than that.

McLoon actually adopted Carol's kids when he married her, but as far as I know, he doesn't acknowledge their existence now. Yet he considers himself a better parent than any gay person on the planet??

And really... anybody defending Gramps on this board needs to stay in PUMAland permanently. :puke:

[ecstatic]

74. uggh. of course you did. All you do is defend the McCains

:eyes: :puke:

[Divine Discontent]

77. agreed eom

[Hippo_Tron]

101. When the Republicans stop caring about my personal life, I will stop caring about theirs

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[saracat]

108. So I was not allowed a primary opinion. Gah. You folks make me sick.

I didn't support Obama in the primary and it is no secret I will vote reluctantly for him now.Big whoop. It isn't required that we love the guy. I am voting for the D after his name.

As I friend of mine stated, the voting machine doesn't count the level of enthusiasm. Just the vote. And I have actually handed out Obama lit and stickers recently.He will NEVER be my favorite candidate but he is the presumptive nominee and I will vote for him in November.Why do you refight the primary wars?

[Double T]

5. Glad Cindy McCain kept her mouth shut and didn't answer the reporters...........

question. This is the kind of crap that helps the other side win. Get back to the important issues and not some tabloid fodder.

[jenmito]

8. I think it speaks to McCain's character and many women will see McCain as disrespecting his

first wife.

[saracat]

12. Nice Rw talking point that was used against Clinton. This stuff isn't our business no matter what

side of the aisle you are on. Period.I don't believe in double standards.Private is private.

[jenmito]

15. RW talking point???

:eyes:

[saracat]

16. Yep.That was what they said about the Monica debacle. And have used it ever since.

I have no respect for these kind of arguments in the politcal arena.

[jenmito]

17. Are you voting for Obama?

You sure seem to be sticking up for the McCains...

[saracat]

21. In fact I am , reluctantly but he is the presumptive nominee and I don't see why that

is any of your business either. Are you a parrot "Are you voting for Obama"? You sure parrot that a lot. I stick up for anyone that I think is unfairly attacked.I didn't think it was right when they asked Chelsea about Monica either. And presumptuous personal questions are not acceptable from either side of the aisle.

I don't like John McCain but I could care less about his "affairs". JFK was a rake too. As was MLK. would you have asked their wives about their conduct? Did anyone ask Jackie why she put up with Jack?

Some folks have the weirdest priorities. It bothers me that McCain practically never votes on anything and collects a Senate salary for doing nothing. When he does vote most of the time the votes are horrible.He didn't even bother to vote on FISA at all!

[jenmito]

30. Good. And I'm flattered that you take note of my posts...

McCain didn't just have an affair. He LEFT his wife after her horrible accident. It's terrible how he treated his first wife not to mention how he apparently treats Cindy.

[saracat]

38. But it still isn't our business. Both women think differently about him than

you do. I don't think much of him either but their feelings are their prerogative. His first wife Carol just gave an interview to explain how she felt and to say how highly she thinks of John. Cindy has remained married to the guy for 28 years. I think he is an SOB but MY opinion doesn't matter about what they think and it is still none of our business. Just my opinion.

We look as bad as they do when we play the self righteous card. And it isn't necessary. There is lots to go after McCain on

[JackORoses]

86. did you know an officer in the Navy can be courtmarshalled for adultery?

It is strictly against the code of conduct.

This code applied to John McCain when he was cheating on his wife.

John McCain, an Officer and a Douchebag...

[saracat]

88. That is true. But tha is Mccain and 28 years ago.We would have also had

to courtmarshall a considerable number of our military if it were strictly enforced. Eisenhower would not have been exempt. I also say Mccain is slime.I always have.

[LisaM]

95. Court martial. n/t

[saracat]

97. Thanks. I couldn'r edit but you are correct!

[ray of light]

110. Example of that...Tom Fiscus reported (blew the whistle) on their torture program

and all you have to do is google his name to see that 'possible' infidelity was a bigger issue than the fact that our country was raping, assaulting, and maiming prisoners of war.

Just google his name and watch all the 'hit' articles the right-wingers put out there to make us forget what was important.

And he lost part of his pension. He lost rank. He was forced to retire. And even now, there are emails etc...that have had their security changed so that even though they were not top-secret when he was involved in them, now they have been reclassified.

I consider this a valid issue particularly through the story of Tom Fiscus.

http://www.thomasjfiscus.net/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Fiscus
http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/2007/11/meet_tom_fiscus.html

[woolldog]

37. things slow on capital hill?

[Bluerthanblue]

69. bullshit- McCain himself said what he did was WRONG-

and he put it in his book-
It ain't private any longer.

[JackORoses]

85. Marriage Licenses are Public Records

Public is Public.

[Overseas]

82. I agree. Devious behavior such as sneaking around with Cindy is relevant

when media darling John Sidney McCain III wants to be seen as the conservative, family values, straight talking guy. Unfortunately for him, he has been an adulterer, called his wife the C-word, and changed his opinion on important policies to suit his political needs so all of those marketing points are invalid.

But JSM III has worked hard to flatter a lot of Washington reporters so they will be protecting him from exposure as the guy who votes 95% in accord with George W. Bush.

[saracat]

28. Exactly.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Some say that "seeing is believing" the question I want to ask is

"Is seeing doing?". I'm just sayin'.

[tabasco]

23. John McCain voted to impeach Bill Clinton over a blowjob.

You know how those republicans hate adultery.

[saracat]

25. And that is a great example of GOP hypocrisy but has nothing to do with his wife.

[jenmito]

33. His second wife knew he was married at the time she was seeing him.

[blogslut]

27. How adorable

I'll have to remember how these things are "none of our business" when the repubs go after Obama's personal life.

[jenmito]

32. Exactly.

[saracat]

34. Michelle's personal life should be off limits. It was wrong what was done to Kitty DuKakis.

it is wrong what they are doing to Cindy McCain. it was wrong what they did to Theresa heinz Kerry. So far not much has been hurled at Michelle but if they dig into her personal life or finances , it would be wrong.

BTW, that was an empty link.Or something was removed but it was something about fundraisers? How was that 'personal?

[blogslut]

72. It's the link to DU's Obama fundraising page

Perhaps you would like to make a donation?

[saracat]

89. I am reluctanly voting for Obama. That is my limit.The presidential

candidate I contributed to was Edwards and now whatever funds I have go to elect local candidates.I have passed out lit for Obama and given out stickers.I cannot do more.

[blogslut]

91. Oh well

I guess the rest of us will have to take up the slack. No biggie. There's almost two million of us. Somehow we'll manage.

[saracat]

92. I am sure you will.And I hope you will consider your local non fed candidates as well.

Those are the folks who make the real differences in our day to day lives and that is where the most meaningful contributions can be made. Those folks really need your dollars! Remember Barack himself was only a State senator to begin with!

[blogslut]

94. I was permanent secretary for my precinct caucus

It was quite exhilarating. I mean, it's not a big thing like having a spouse that's running for office or serving in important positions on local political committees. I do what I can with my limited income and lack of automobile.

I also give to Rick Noriega. He's running to unseat John Cornyn and he may just win.

[saracat]

96. Good for you. That is wonderful! some many get caught up in the glamour of the local stuff, they

foget the "local peons" but that is where the GOP really made inroads and it was their launching pad to taking back control. That is where the real fight begins.Thank you for all your efforts. I feel like I am thnking "combat vets" when I thanks folks who have contributed local efforts such as yours!

[Straight Shooter]

29. While he was still married?? OMFG, nobody does that! How heinous, how horrid, how despicable!

I have never known anybody that would do something like that, never in all my life! None of my friends, none of my family, not even my own little self would ever, ever, ever -- I do swear to God -- have an adulterous relationship. May the Good Lord strike them dead right now for their evil sins and a pox on their family for seven generations!

For the love all that is holy, let us put them in stocks in the public square where we may all pass by and throw stones at them for their immoral concupiscence, or at least spit in their vile faces to show our righteous contempt.



:sarcasm:

[jenmito]

39. He cheated on her and then divorced her. Does THAT always happen?

[Straight Shooter]

42. Crotch-sniffing is for Republicans.

Would you be more comfortable if McCain had stayed with his wife and become a serial adulterer, like Bill Clinton? Or how about a long-time adulterer like george h.w. bush? Yes, he had a long-term affair, too.

Let it go.

[saracat]

45. No kidding. Geez.

[saracat]

44. WHO CARES? How does this effect you? This sounds like the

fundy "gay marriage"argument.The McCain marrige , cheating, or divorce has nothing to do with any of us.

[jenmito]

54. I care. So do many people who care about people denying rights to others while not respecting

the institution of marriage themselves.

[CTyankee]

50. Are you finished? Good. Now let's talk.

The Republicans have pushed their "family values" shit under our noses for years now. They persecuted a successful Democratic president and actually impeached him based on those same "values."

Now, boo hoo, it is catching up with them. Well, karma is a bitch. You live by this, you die by this (politically speaking). I am no Puritan, but I absolutely DESPISE hypocrisy. It is wonderful what is happening to Cindy and John McCain. When the chickens come home to roost, they have no one to blame but themselves.

THAT is the real issue here, not the comparative morality.

[Straight Shooter]

51. Of course it's hypocrisy, I never would claim it isn't.

But it's still none of my business. If Democrats want to sink to the crotch-sniffing level of Republicans, if they really think they can beat them at that game, by all means let them go for it.

I want no part of it.

[CTyankee]

57. Hypocrisy, not "crotch sniffing" is the issue here.

I am sorry you don't like to hear it. But it is the truth. The truth may be uncomfortable. But the fact is that you cannot set one standard for other people and another for yourself and not be vulnerable to attacks that you are a hypocrite.

What would you like to do, ignore it and let them continue to get away with this hijack of our country or fight back and reveal these people for the lying, cheating hypocrites they are?

[Straight Shooter]

62. Oh, FFS.

I'm not going to argue this issue. It was silly with Gary Hart, it was silly with Clinton.

Enough with the the paternalistic "I am sorry you don't like to hear it" nonsense. Yeah, I don't like to hear it, not because it is or isn't the truth, but because it's annoying to watch Democrats imitate Republicans.

[saracat]

63. Thank you. That is exactly the point!

[CTyankee]

90. I don't care what Cindy McCain did or didn't do before her marriage.

It is none of my business. That isn't the point here. The point is hypocrisy, that and that alone. You can't point fingers at other people and then go out and do what you criticize them for. I don't care what Gary Hart did or Clinton did either. THEY didn't go around talking about "family values".

[Straight Shooter]

102. When Repubs talk about "family values" they don't mean adultery or fidelity.

That just happens to be a convenient scapegoat when the opportunity arises. Their claim to fame with "family values" is being *cough* pro-life and anti-gay. That's the "family values" they beat us over the head with, that's what they manage to cram into the ballot box along with the candidate races.

But by all means, if it makes you feel good to throw back the stones thrown at you, have at it, if you really think that pointing out their marital values hypocrisy is going to even make a blip on the radar screen of the election.

[CTyankee]

103. Uh, what about the impeachment of President William Jefferson Clinton?

Hello? The impeachment of a sitting president over a blow job in the White House and you are saying they aren't talking about "fidelity of adultery"? Excuse me???? Where have you been? These people tried to overthrow the legitimately elected government of the United States of America and you don't think that somehow "matters"?

Again, I don't care about any Republican's sex life. It is not my business. What IS my business is the hypocrisy that these people continue to preach and that DENIES us the government of leaders we deserve, such as Bill Clinton.

It seems like the Hustler guy knew what you never knew. He offered lots of $$$ and we got a nice rebate out of that, didn't we? In only wish he offered more...

[Straight Shooter]

114. It would be a lot easier to have a debate with you if you would actually think about my responses.

That just happens to be a convenient scapegoat when the opportunity arises.

When the opportunity arises; otherwise, it's expendable.

"Hello?" Good-bye.

[saracat]

59. Exactly right. This is sickening,degrading and immature. We should be better than this.

[CTyankee]

64. No, this man cheated and lied. Cindy was complicit in that cheating and lying.

And now they are trying to whitewash the past as if it didn't happen. They didn't own up to it. They LIED about it. They are still lying. They are still equivocating. They are still projecting themselves as models of family values when they are anything but!

Personally I don't care what anybody does in their private lives. But to stand up there and lie about it, all along promoting the lie about their "family values" just offends my sense of justice and fairness. It should offend yours too.

[saracat]

65. When Have they lied? They aren't saying anything. There have been articles about this.

I haven't seen a denial and i still could care less. I realize i could also care less if they do lie. I am not going to vote for him anyway.And I really don't care enough to be offended and I still don't care that Clinton lied about a blow job either. I must be morally bankrupt because I really "don't care". I am much more "offended by folks on either side of the aisle that insist on placing their morality on others. I hate it when the GOP does it but it seems even more despicable when we do it. We should be better than this. We Have met the enemy and he is us. How sad. Some even sound just like the fundies they allege to despise.

[CTyankee]

66. Not the point. And yes, McCain lied about his affair in his biography, by saying that he

was separated from his first wife when he started seeing Cindy.

I am totally uninterested in the McCains sex life. I think it is distasteful to have to go there at all and I agree we "shouldn't" in an ideal world. But that is not the world we live in. If they paint adultery as a crime for Democrats they shouldn't have the privilege of not having it thrown back on them. God, I hate hypocrisy. Always have. Always will. No exceptions. You do the crime you do the time, as the saying goes.

[saracat]

55. So we engage in what we have criticized them for/ Yeah , well that is

also hypocrical. The fact is all of this stuff is no ones business no matter what side of the aisle it falls on. And you think the answer is to be like them?

[CTyankee]

60. No, pointing out hypocrisy is just that: pointing out hypocrisy.

For too long these Republicans have been beating the shit out of us on "family values." Why do you want to hesitate fighting back with everything we've got?

No wonder we lose presidential campaigns...

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[saracat]

109. Primary wars. So what? I still don't like him but I am voting for the D after his name.

Am I required to love the guy? He gets my vote because there is a D after his name. Refighting the primary is not cool, it is flamebait.

[Doctor_J]

31. A "total lack of recall", just like the current administration

Repukes are accountable to no one.

[Doctor_J]

36. Actually she was the last of many affairs he had while married to his

first wife. He's also had affairs with lobbyists and other women while married to Cindy. Yet the media insist that his experience as a POW, which was before the serial philandering, flip-flopping, and corruption, renders his character unchallengeable. I hope Keilar checks her mail for anthrax.

[jenmito]

48. Wow. He gets a pass for everything.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

41. Oh Hai Cindy, do you like kittens or puppys?

And BTW, why were you balling McGramps when he was still married?

[Motown_Johnny]

46. Clearly puppies..... Dalmatian puppies, lots and lots of Dalmatian puppies

[Robeson]

52. Let's see...Rosalynn Carter was vilified for having the brains to help advise Carter....

...Hillary was vilified 24/7, Teresa Heinz was vilified for having a voice, and Michelle has been vilified non-stop. But by all means, we can't say anything about Republican wives. That would be bad form...

[saracat]

56. I said and actually used what was done to the Democratic candidates wives as reasons this should

not take place. I have defended all those women.But what was done to them does NOT justify our doing it to other candiates wives. We should be "better than that".

[NYC_SKP]

58. Shouldn't we be attacking each other? Where have you been?

If you keep this up, jenmito, we just might win!

:sarcasm:

Thanks for the change of topic..... :hi:

[jenmito]

61. Apparently so...

but I guess some people aren't interested in winning.

Thank YOU! :hi:

[NYC_SKP]

67. Cheers! I'm in a mood today.

I'm remembering an old waterskiing friend, Michael Smith (aka Studly), who shot himself a couple years after returning from the first Gulf War.

He'd moved away and gotten into meth, but I remember him talking about bulldozing bodies. I think that messed him up.

I just posted, give it a kick if you like. For studly.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6501328

:patriot:

[jenmito]

70. Sorry to hear that...

I'll check out your thread. :hi:

[BlooInBloo]

75. Obama, on the other hand, has to answer for anything said by any black person anywhere, any time.

[Divine Discontent]

78. LOL... aint that the truth...

my relative and I were joking today sarcastically that I want to put a paid commercial out on all tv stations one week before the elections for no black people to commit any crime, so the media will not overdo it with 'black criminals' on the nightly news! He joked that we'll probably get some CRAZY thing we've never seen, like an AA serial killer who preys on elderly white women, shown on the TV for several days before the election!

You know you can't trust them...


The media, that is.

[NatBurner]

80. yep.

[papapi]

81. Who gives a hairy rat's azz what kind of trollop Sindy McShame is?

Anybody that knows anything already knows all the sordid details about Sindy McShame. And Clone McShame has volumes and volumes about what a crooked, conniving opportunist he is. Poor Sindy and Clone, embarrassed about their decrepit relationship. I'm weeping tears of stone. :sarcasm:

[saracat]

93. The thing is, If we condone attacks on Cindy , or anyone else of this nature, we would have to find

it acceptable for the GOP to do the same(again)to us.

[ObamaKerryDem]

99. Haha, typical. Repubs LOVE to get on Dems who have affairs..

but when they are called to account for theirs, it's suddenly a "personal issue". :eyes: Not that I think it has a place in politics, it doesn't, but hey, THEY are the ones who made it an issue (and even if Cindy herself hasn't, her husband clearly has, i.e his vote to impeach Clinton back in '98).

[AtomicKitten]

111. Sorry, Cindy. Enquiring minds want to know.