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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 05:56 PM
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I thought I was incurably cynical and immune to Obama's message of Hope until I just realized...
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:23 PM by IanDB1
... how long it has been since I've posted THIS anywhere:


Arming the Left: Is the time now? --by Charles Southwell*

I hope you didn't open this page to read what we already know: that this is the most rightwing government we have ever had in the US, even far right of Bush I, that our rights are being eroded daily, and that our democratic process is all but gone, if it isn't already gone.

I hope you came here to read about tactics for action that will finally have some consequence. I hope you agree that our protests, petitions, letters, and on and on, have been utterly ignored. The fascistas that run our country laugh at us. They believe they can do anything and that we haven't got the guts to revolt, but only to wage a war of words. I have seen the Bush cavalcades, as they drive away, his aids sneering and jeering and laughing and mocking our protests. They think we are a JOKE. Tens of millions of Americans protested the war, but because we posed no REAL THREAT to their power, we were UTTERLY IGNORED.

As long as we pose no REAL threat to the powers-that-be, to what is shaping up into a dictatorship, we will continue to be ignored. Right now, we are ignored because we present no organized power to fight this onslaught of anti-democratic, totalitarian government that we are up against.

It will take time, but it's time to get more left-leaning liberals and outright leftists to at least POSE a threat, by getting organized and getting ARMED. It's time to get well past this liberal phobia and taboo about weapons and force. After all, our liberalism was won with a REVOLUTIONARY WAR! they used real guns in that war. The French Revolution was also a WAR and they used real weapons there too.

More:
http://www.legitgov.org/essay_southwell_arming_the_left_is_the_time_now_102203.html




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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:11 PM
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1. I've been ready, and I'm glad I'm not alone, IanDB1
K&R

I'm wondering how bad things have to get before progressive gun haters begin to appreciate the second amendment.

:shrug:
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:13 PM
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2. A small armed civilian population can actually do quite a bit against an armed government
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:18 PM by Not the Only One
Slaves weren't allowed to own guns and they weren't allowed to even after they were emancipated (via Black Codes). African Americans in the segregated South needed guns because Bull Connor-types weren't going to provide adequate civil protection and African Americans usually needed their guns to protect them from the civil authority in those areas. Minorities should always be cautious about being disarmed by the government, because the government is usually doing so because it needs to keep the minorities "in line."

The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising resulted in one more month of freedom and life for those the Nazis wanted to exterminate.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:18 PM
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3. PTSD from the sound of gunfire
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:22 PM by loyalsister
has a way of not turning people into gun lovers. I have heard about this experience first hand.

http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/152/6/569.pdf?ck=nck

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:31 PM
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4. Yes, but I'm begining to find it less and less likely that it will come to that. n/t
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:32 PM
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5. buns, not gutter (n/t)
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:26 PM
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6. It grieves me to think

that it could come to that, but the last 8 years have convinced me that it is possible. BECAUSE of the 2nd Amendment I have never felt the need to own a gun, I have no personal use for one, I've never felt that threatened ... until the anti-gun crowd started trying to take them away. Still, until it becomes apparent that my government is going to allow that to happen I may be tempted but it's probably not necessary. The ONLY reason for a government to disarm its people, is to keep them powerless.

Not this girl. I do not trust my government that much. I do not trust ANY government that much.

We NEED change, and we need it now.
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