McCain: "If you believe you should pay more taxes, Senator Obama is your man"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/mccain_on_economy_believe_in_o.html



As he works to re-launch and refocus his campaign for president, Sen. John McCain begins today by putting new emphasis on the economy, urging Americans to buck-up in a 'we-can-do-it' speech in Colorado. "Americans are having a tough time. But we've been through worse, and beaten longer odds," McCain said. "Even in these difficult days, we must believe in ourselves. Nothing is inevitable in America. We've always been the captains of our fate. All you've ever asked of government is that it stand on your side, not in your way. I intend to do just that: to stand on your side; to help business and not government create jobs; to fight for your future and not the personal ambitions of politicians and bureaucrats."

McCain acknowledged that the economy "is slowing" and more than 400,000 people have lost their jobs since December and new job creation has dropped off. He refrained from using the "r" word, for recession, however, while he stressed the importance of free trade over protectionism. "To make matters worse, gas is over $4 a gallon and the price of oil has almost doubled in the last year," he said. "The cost of everything from energy to food is rising."

"I have a plan to grow this economy, create more and better jobs, and get America moving again," he said. "I have a plan to reform government, achieve energy security, and ensure that healthcare and a quality education are affordable and available for all. I believe the role of government is to unleash the creativity, ingenuity and hard work of the American people, and make it easier to create jobs." McCain said he knows that economists don't care for his gas tax holiday plan, but insisted that "the American people like it, and so do small business owners."

In the requisite dig at Sen. Barack Obama, McCain portrayed Obama as standing for higher taxes during difficult economic times. "If you believe you should pay more taxes, I am the wrong candidate for you. Senator Obama is your man," he said. "The choice in this election is stark and simple. Senator Obama will raise your taxes. I won't. I will cut them where I can. Jobs are the most important thing our economy creates. When you raise taxes in a bad economy you eliminate jobs. I'm not going to let that happen." The Democratic National Committee labeled McCain's run at the economy "lipstick on a pig" and said it is part of his "I'm exactly like George Bush on the economy...or worse" economic tour."

[NattPang]

1. If you want to vote for a liar,

Senator McCain is your man.

[ihavenobias]

2. 90% of Americans would pay less income taxes under Obama's proposed tax plan vs McCain's...

The MSM will probably let McCain get away with his factually unsupported BS, so please spread the truth: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6430781

[Danger Mouse]

3. If you want an unbearable prick in the White House, McCain is your man.

:thumbsup:

[yardwork]

4. McCain = more of the same

How's that working for you, America?

[margotb822]

5. I guess McCain didn't get the memo

that 90% of Americans will pay lower taxes under Obama than him. It's just that McCain is pandering to the wealthy and the ignorant.

I'm still not sure what the big deal is with taxes anyways. I'm happier knowing my money was helping others than going to waste. <Sigh> We'd should have just let them secede into their own tax-less, evangelical, armed-to-the-teeth state. See how far they actually get...

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. No, Senator McCain, I believe YOU should pay more taxes

That's why I'm voting for Obama! :)

[speedoo]

7. If you want to continue the horror of Bush/Cheney/etc....

and all the war, blood, economic misery and disgrace for our country that they have brought us...

McCain is your man.

[indepat]

8. I believe the Senator McCains of this country should be paying much more taxes,

that the more affluent should pay through their collective noses until they are paying at least as high a percentage of their total income in taxes at all levels of government as do the bottom 20% of Americans on the income totem pole. I know this thesis is pure heresy, sheer fantasy, a mockery of the kind vehemently opposed to by a great preponderance of Americans, but there it is. :D

[rinsd]

9. Can someone explain how this asshat is gonna balance the budget by 2013 w/out raising taxes?

[tridim]

10. Repugs do this all the time..

They say "you" when they really mean "the ultra-rich". McCain is not talking to us, he's talking to his elite base.

"If you believe you should pay more taxes, Senator Obama is your man"

Really means..

"If you believe the ultra-rich should pay more taxes, Senator Obama is your man"

[Johonny]

11. yeah

same old same old. Bush cried about this in 2000 and 2004. Rethugs love to pretend they are looking out for the little guy tax wise, but... come on. Who buys these fake stories besides the MSM?

[anonymous171]

12. I assume to he's speaking to a group of super-rich individuals. nt

[Arkana]

13. "Tax and spend! TAX AND SPEND! WOOHOOO WAAAAHHHHAHAAHAHAH!"

My God, do they have any original material?

[rinsd]

14. Obama just issued a response to this and it is excellent

The Illinois senator summed up his plans for how to help struggling families, including through a middle class tax cut and the $50 billion second stimulus package he has urged Congress to pass among other already announced proposals.

And he answered the criticisms from McCain and his rivals today and recently, who have accused him of wanting to raise taxes, even on lower income people.

“If Sen. McCain wants a debate about taxes in this campaign, then it is a debate I’m happy to have. Because if you’re a family making less than $250,000, my plan will not raise your taxes -- not your income tax, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes," Obama told reporters at a hastily arranged press conference at the Drury Inn after his flight to Charlotte, NC was diverted here for mechanical reasons. "In fact, what Senator McCain’s gonna need to explain is why his tax cut for the middle class would leave out 101 million households, and why, the families who are lucky enough to get a tax cut under his plan, it would be worth only about $125 in the first year. The difference is -- he trusts that prosperity will trickle down from corporations and the wealthiest few to everyone else. I believe that it’s the hard work of the middle-class American family that fuels this nation’s prosperity."

During the roughly half hour presser, Obama also talked about the Beijing Olympics opening ceremonies and scoffed at the new ad by McCain’s “surrogates” touting the Arizona senator's energy plan, arguing his energy policy was in line with failed George Bush policies.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/07/1185362.aspx

[Smarmie Doofus]

15. The real distinction is what each would do with the tax $$ the gov't already collects.

McCain wants to piss tens of billions more down the Iraq sinkhole on top of the tens of billions already irrevocably pissed.

[Telly Savalas]

22. But we aren't going to collect taxes for that for years.

We're borrowing it.

[ray of light]

16. If you want to use your tax dollars more WISELY then Obama is your man. IF you want Paris Hilton and

Cindy McCain to keep more of their tax dollars then McBush is your guy.

[texastoast]

17. If you want to enable corporate raiders at taxpayers expense, McCain is your man

AND destroy our children's legacy




http://charleshurwitz.com/leadership.html

[Cha]

18. Not according to our own DUer's research..

ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-30-08 02:21 PM
Original message

3 Facts That Could Change This Election (If We Share Them With Enough People)

Here are 3 Stunning facts that could not only change the outcome of this election, but with regard to the first two points, they could change the results of every election for years to come *if* we make enough people aware of them.

I want to keep this as simple and short as possible, so that the people who need to read this actually do. And again, I encourage you to share this information with as many people as you can, either by recommending and commenting on this thread, by emailing these points out and or by posting a link to this thread on the appropriate websites.

1)-Over 70% of our National Debt was created by just 3 Republican presidents.

Go ahead, get out your calculator and add up debt by president/party. Apparently the party that claims fiscally responsibility thinks it's ok to borrow massive amounts of money from foreign countries like China. Consider that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars in interest payments on this debt each year. That means more and more of your hard earned money is going to make interest only payments on what is basically a Giant National Credit Card. Not to mention the fact our debt/deficits are largely behind the weakness of our dollar, which in turns makes gas more expensive and creates other serious problems.

If you want to learn more about the National Debt, check out these links:
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock /
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
http://zfacts.com/p/447.html (A running clock with the cost of the war)
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/business...

2)-According to new research from Larry Bartels out of Princeton, real middle class wage growth is double when a Democrat is president compared to when a Republican is president.

"...Even more remarkable, the real incomes of working-poor families...grew six times as fast when Democrats held the White House. Only the incomes of affluent families were relatively impervious to partisan politics, growing robustly under Democrats and Republicans alike...": http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27wwln-ideal...

Here is a short summary of this research: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008...

And here is a good, short audio interview with Larry Bartels: http://youngturks.wmod.llnwd.net/a591/o1/4-25-08Bartels...

3)-90% of Americans would pay less taxes under Obama's proposed tax plan compared to McCain's.

This is according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Institute as reported by CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates...

People making under $112,000 a year in individual (not household) income would pay less taxes under Obama's plan.

By contrast, John McCain's tax cuts mostly benefit the top 10% of Americans. Under McCain's plan, people making over 2.9 million dollars in individual annual income would get almost a million dollar tax break.

Conclusion: Countless millions of Americans vote Republican because they believe they'll pay less taxes and that they'll have their money spent more responsibly. As you can see, those beliefs are directly contradicted by the facts. Of course we can choose to ignore the facts and instead focus on which candidate is wearing a flag pin (you ever notice that Hillary and McCain don't wear them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi5nbZvS9cg ) but I think we're a smarter country than that.

PS---If you're not sure how to respond to those laughably bad, factually inaccurate anti-Obama smear emails and or you want more information on John McCain, here is a nice resource guide of articles, videos and commentary: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6430781

Spread the word..

[texastoast]

24. Obama needs to put out an ad countering the pukes

Right away.

[butterfly77]

19. If you want..

Never ending war,outsourcing,no affordable housing,high gas prices,no jobs,secret backroom deals,etc...then vote for McCain.

[ecstatic]

20. And if a $200 refund check from IRS makes up for plummeting home value, gas prices, insu. costs, war

then McCain is your man! :eyes:

[rniel]

21. If you want your son to die in a war

Then McCain is your man.

[zbdent]

23. Just need something like this ...

a picture of a hand, with a "bill" in it ...

"Iraq, Iran, other wars ... $5,000,000,000,000"

[Bobbie Jo]

25. Danm...that was clever McSame.

Where did he get his advisors? Did he round up the old Coolidge administration gang or what? :eyes:

[Straight Shooter]

26. If you want 90 percent of your tax dollars wasted through incompetence, McCain is your man.

Gawd, I'm so disgusted by this old "Democrats will raise your taxes" canard.