I think it'll be Obama-Biden.

[Drunken Irishman]

If not Biden, then it'll be Webb. But yes, I expect the ticket to be Obama-Biden, which is great, because it's what I originally wanted.

Biden will be a great VP candidate, as he'll bring experience to the table, but also isn't so corrupted by Washington that it undercuts Obama's change message.

[EFerrari]

1. I like Joe Biden a lot but he's not good off the cuff

and that could be a problem.

[Inuca]

9. He is not good off the cuff?!?!?!

He is one of the best, unless I misunderstood what you meant.

[EFerrari]

13. He was the one that called Obama "clean" and there was some other

awful remark about Indians. He has a habit of not knowing how his remarks will be heard.

[Inuca]

15. It happens, but seldom

and I guess it's the price to pay for how quick witted and sharp, not to mention to the point (even when he digresses :-)) and understandable his comments typically are.

[Radical Activist]

26. It only takes once or twice to lose the election.

Why risk that for someone who brings so little to the ticket?

[gateley]

2. He REALLY does not want the job --

Did you watch Meet the Press this morning? He was adamant, and I believe him.

I think he really wants SOS. :7

MY dream ticket, back in the days, was Biden/Obama -- ensuring a Dem WH for 16 years!

Here's a link to the snip in MTP:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25314965#25314965

[Drunken Irishman]

3. If he doesn't really want it, then it's his job to lose.

;)

[gateley]

4. You really think so?

I know a lot of pundits think it's a great match (and others disagree) -- but is there any indication of that out of the Obama camp?

Here's what Joe said: If asked, I'll say yes, but I don't want to be asked.

[Drunken Irishman]

7. I could be wrong...

But I don't see Nunn and I don't see Bob Kerrey. I definitely don't see Edwards and it's a long-shot Sebelius gets it. So that leaves Webb and Biden.

[gateley]

40. There's Clark, Schweitzer (my current fave) and others, too.

Out of the ones you mentioned, though, I think Biden would help the ticket the most.

[Inuca]

10. Also he said

if I remember correctly, that he has told the Obama camp that he does not want it. He was very clear and as non-evasive as you can get this morning. And I believe him. I also agree with you that if he is interested in any administration position it would be SoS.

[MercutioATC]

5. I know it's a real longshot, but I'm still pulling for Obama/Schweitzer

I think the "experience" thing is a media-created issue this cycle. People care a lot less about "experience" than they do about changing things...and they'll vote for candidates with whom they identify regardless of their "experience".

With today's hot-button issues, how popular would a ticket with a 15-year plan for complete petroleum independence be...especially when the author of the plan is a string-tie-wearing, takes-his-dog-to-work-every-day Montana rancher?

[gateley]

8. I'm really high on Schweitzer for VP, too.

By my estimation (:eyes:) he's a dream candidate for the position and complements Obama perfectly.

[Inuca]

11. He takes his dog to work?

I did not know that. I am sold then :-).

[MercutioATC]

19. Yep...he doesn't go anywhere without Jax.

[bobbolink]

28. Riiiight. That is obviously the MOST important thing.

Fuck housing for poor folk, as long as he takes his dog to work.

Geeeeez.................

[MercutioATC]

29. You don't know any small-town Indys/Republicans, do you?

They dislike both McCain and Obama.

Having an intelligent but "plain-living" Dem on Obama's ticket would generate a lot of interest from people who feel that both Obama and McCain are "big-city elitists".

The dog thing is just another way that he'll connect with them.

[bobbolink]

32. I'm comforted to know we will win on such an important "ISSUE"

:puke:

Oh, and thanks ever so much for your talking down to me.

I bow to your superiority.

:eyes:

[MercutioATC]

36. I'll take a win regardless of whether I think the issue is important...

...and it seems to me that you initiated the sarcasm here.


I stand by my assessment.

[bobbolink]

38. Well, we poor folks will appreciate it, and just keep our problems to ourselves, and die quietly, so

you and the dog won't be inconvenienced.

the last word is yours.

Make it an ugly one...

bye-bye

[butterfly77]

22. I also heard him and Webb say it out of their own ..

mouths that they don't want it. Now the next choice is Clark but,I think he has a temper..

[MercutioATC]

25. Schweitzer's stated goal, however, is to "change the world".

What better position to do that from than at the right hand of the President of the United States?

[Radical Activist]

27. He'd be a better choice than Biden.

We need someone with appeal beyond the two coasts .

[MercutioATC]

30. I actually like him as a leader, and his appeal to rural America is huge.

If, as I believe, Obama's weakest spot is rural voters, Schweitzer would do more for the ticket than any of the other VP choices I've seen to date.

[Nickster]

42. I've been excited about the Governor for awhile now, he really has a new vision for Democrats and I

for one love it.

[Blondiegrrl]

43. Schweitzer is awesome. Montana is lucky to have him.

I'll trade Joe Manchin for Schweitzer any day.

Seems like Schweitzer's name only comes up at DU, though. Do you suppose he's among those Obama is considering?

[AllentownJake]

6. He has the chops

To play hatchet man better than anyone else in the party. He made poor Lindsay look like a child taken to the woodshed today on MTP.

Webb was pretty good at evicerating the GOP too when I saw him a couple weeks ago.

[Inuca]

12. Webb also had an "eviscerating party" with poor

Lindsay G a couple of months ago or so. Seems to have become Graham's special spot in the McCain entourage, "I am here to be eviscerated and be made to look pathetic so you, my master won't have to".

[AllentownJake]

14. I can hear the talk now

Shit Senator McCain...They want someone on MTP to take a beating from Biden....who do we send.

[Inuca]

16. Actually the last part should read

"tell Lindsay to clear his schedule ASAP" :-)

Edited to add: I actually do feel a BIT sorry for him, there are times when he makes sense and he is rather smart in his own kind of weird way. But he cannot keep up and most of the time he is just plain wrong and not very good at making his wrong points.

[TheDonkey]

17. why do you think so?

Biden was my #2 in the primaries. I think he is great btw.

[Egnever]

18. If it is and I dont think it will be

I will have gotten my dream ticket.

I hope you are right! I would be in heaven.

[thewiseguy]

20. Obama-Graham

[Inuca]

21. Didn't Graham have some healh problems

that made him drop out when he was running himself? I am not at all sure I remember this correctly...

[thewiseguy]

23. I dont remember this and he has said he is willing to be the VP

He agrees with Obama on offshore drilling and he also opposed the war from the beginning.

[Rowdyboy]

33. No, he's fine. I saw him recently and he's tanned, rested and ready to roll....

That would be an enormous punch in the gut to McCain.

[kimmerspixelated]

24. Obama-Richardson!

Obama- Edwards, Obama-Webb, certainly... He's got a tough choice to make. Imagine the pressure!

[newmajority]

34. Obama Richardson is the best ticket.

We have a good chance of flipping the entire Mountain Time zone with a western governor. (Schweitzer also a possibility in that regard)

Edwards will make a great AG, but really doesn't bring much to the ticket as VP. Webb is better off where he is, as a voice for veterans and against the war in the Senate. Two senators will never win anyway.

And why is it that the whore media always talks about the governors as possibilities with McCain, but only mentions senators, or other ridiculous ideas like Sam Nunn or a repuke crossover like Hagel with Obama?

It's because the media whores know two senators won't win. And that's why it's exactly what they want.

[crankychatter]

37. I agree - the more I listen to that guy, the more I like him - but Biden is a smart cookie too - NT

[End Of The Road]

31. Has Wes Clark been taken off the table?

I finally found a job, and now I can't keep up with politics like I used to. I was excited about the possibility of Obama/Clark. No hope? Fill me in. Thanks.

[elleng]

45. Wes has NOT been taken off the table,

not by himself, anyway, and he appeared at a meeting with Obama this week:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15836

[thatsrightimirish]

35. i think that's a good choice

[Sheltiemama]

39. That would make my 75-year-old mother so happy.

She loves Biden. Loves Obama, too, though she would have voted for whomever was the Democratic nominee. A few months ago, when Hillary was still in the running, Mom was at the doctor's office. We live in East Tennessee, which is frighteningly Republican. Two men were talking in the waiting room, and one of them said he couldn't believe that two of the choices for president were a white woman and a black man. Mom interjects herself into their conversation and says, "Yes, and isn't it wonderful that you'll get to see history being made?"

[senseandsensibility]

41. I like his outspokenness and his ability and willingness to be

an attack dog. We've gone two elections now with "nice guys" as the VP candidates and it hasn't worked out. Attack dog is the role that is supposed to be played by the VP. Biden will do it.

[Stop Cornyn]

44. ... because nothing says "change" like over three decades in the Senate? Plus Biden was AWFUL on MTP