If you attend an Obama rally, please do not boo at the mention of Hillary Clinton's name

[bluestateguy]

All that does is expose divisions within the party, thereby inviting some mousy little reporter to write and produce a story about it. The media loves to play up party divisions.

Besides, if you are an Obama fan, why be angry and bitter? Your candidate (our candidate) won. Let it go.

[MattP]

1. Are you sure it's Obama supporters booing?

I think it's reTHuglican plants that booed Obama at Hillary's rally and now boo Hillary at Obamas rallies, it only helps MCsame.

[KittyWampus]

5. I think passing this off onto Repbup's is the easy way out. To Hillary fans on DU, i apologise

for that behavior. Out of line in the GE.

[Overseas]

68. But denying the possibliity is also short-sighted. Plants encourage existing sentiment.

People are planted to egg on those who may still be angry.

[PassingFair]

2. I felt it was appropriate here in Michigan.

Our legislators and other elected officials
(are you listening, Gov. Granholm?) need to
know how pissed off we are over the attempted
front-loading of the primary.

[JoFerret]

11. NOT appropriate ANYWHERE

for democrats to boo Clinton.

[ZinZen]

20. Agree.

Save the boos for McSame.

[hokies4ever]

28. To each their own

"not appropriate" won't convince the people booing her. Why not listen to their grievance and ask them about how they feel? MI voters did get kind of screwed in the primary season.

[JoFerret]

35. I am sure they have all kinds of grievances and upsets

My remarks mostly concern but any rather whining, mean spirited dead ender DUers who find such behavior less than reprehensible .

[cui bono]

30. Oh yeah?

I doubt that.

Although I agree that at our rallies to elect a Dem president it is a stupid thing to do. But don't go telling me it is "NOT appropriate ANYWHERE for democrats to boo Clinton." That is complete and utter BS.

[JoFerret]

36. Go ahead. Boo. Hiss. Jeer. Sneer

Enjoy yourself. And I will tell you it is more than inappropriate.
We disagree.

[cui bono]

46. Keep ordering people around. See how far that gets you.

:eyes:

Judging by your response I'm sure you didn't even read the body of my post. Whatever.

[JoFerret]

49. Since when is having an opinion

"ordering people around"?

Please acquire a measure of civility.

[cui bono]

50. If you think I'm not being civil then you must hate this post:

"NOT appropriate ANYWHERE for democrats to boo Clinton."

which was in response to someone expressing their opinion.

[JoFerret]

53. I don't get your point

Do you?

[cui bono]

54. No. I suffer from a rare disease that compels me to post things that I do not understand.

:eyes:

[JoFerret]

55. OK. No problem

Could happen to anyone.

[pnwmom]

16. No, it was dumb.

Assuming you're interested in having HRC's supporters get out and vote for Obama in November.

[Eurobabe]

33. It's OVER, people need to stop being ridiculous.

They (HRC supporters) are moving on, so should we.

UNLESS, these are freeps posing as Obama supporters? Who knows these days? :shrug:

[L0oniX]

3. I reserve my right to boo anyone, anytime and for any reason.

[BeatleBoot]

7. Absolutely.

Everyone has the right to boo.

And as citizens, we all have the right to vote for whom we wish, too.


:+

[mrreowwr_kittty]

39. Who will you be voting for? nt

[Name removed]

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[JoFerret]

12. Boo

to you. (Scared yet?)

[pnwmom]

17. Yeah, no one can tell you to be smart if you don't want to be. n/t

[Donald Ian Rankin]

40. I reserve my right to stick my hand in a meat grinder.

That doesn't mean that exercising that right is a good idea.

[Lilith Velkor]

59. !

:spray:

[tokenlib]

4. Like you said...the booing has got to stop...

When John Edwards endorsed and the mention of Clinton was booed--I remember the look of disappointment and sadness on his face, and it kind of put people to shame... There weren't too many boos after that... Watching how Barack scolded the booers last night--I remembered back to how ashamed I felt at the earlier boos directed at Clinton with Edwards...

People do have the right to boo and hiss if they want---but it really is counterproductive and portrays us all in a bad light. I just wish people could suppress their lingering frustrations..

Seriously though--that reaction from Edwards stayed with me---and last night I remembered it vividly.It was like that look from a loving parent who is really disappointed when a child does something really bad--and they are hurt by it.

[Beacool]

38. It may have saddened you, but it infuriated her supporters.

Between Edwards endorsement the day after Hillary won WV by 41% and the audience booing her, my phone was ringing off the hook with people telling me how they were not going to vote for Obama if he got the nomination. One guy told me: I'm 58 years old and have never voted for a Republican in my life, but this Nov. I'm voting for McCain. He made up his mind that night, I have spoken to him since and he still stands by his decision.

Sad indeed......

[Zhade]

51. He's an idiot if he'll let his petulance help repubs destroy more lives.

NT!

[musicblind]

61. He may be a complete idiot

But most people, the VAST majority, are low information voters... most, the VAST majority, vote on emotions instead of issues. That's one less vote for Obama and I think it is awful. People should think of the light they are portraying their candidate in when they boo. Everyone is seeing them boo, including people they want to win over. It is immature to boo. Plain and simple. People have that right, but it is immature. People have the right to eat crayons... but it is immature (and mentally dysfunctional) to do it.

I hope that person who is now voting for McCain will change his mind. I'd urge his friend to keep calling and talking to him for the rest of the primary season and see if she/he can undo the damage that has been done. I hope so. Every vote counts, even the votes of people we think are complete idiots.

[TeamJordan23]

6. I agree. nm

[Adelante]

9. I hate the booing

It does nobody anything good. I wish it never happened.

However, I was kind of surprised it happened in Michigan. I thought Hillary was more appreciated in that state.

[Cha]

10. No worries..if I'm fortunate enough to

attend an Obama rally I'll be too busy cheering him on! :bounce: :patriot: :kick: :party:

[PoliticalAmazon]

13. Please post references to booing at Obama's speaches...

at the mention of Hillary Clinton.

Then we can discuss what to do about it.

No use getting worked up over a Strawman Argument.

[pnwmom]

15. It happened in Michigan. n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

18. Date and location? I will access the video and review it. Thanks. n/t

[lastliberalintexas]

21. Google is your friend

Seriously, you can post 2 snip o grams asking for verification but can't search for it yourself? It was of course played up by the media, so it should be easy to find.

[Divernan]

31. The "burden of proof" is on an OP making factual claims against Obama supporters.

The standards for political discussion seem to be dropping. Original posters making claims based on alleged facts that specific actions have occurred and are being reported upon in the press should provide at least one link to document their claim.

[Bake]

44. Burden of proof? Jesus Christ, we're not in a courtroom.

Only an idiot stands there and says "Prove it," when we've all seen it on televised coverage of Obama rallies. If it hadn't happened, Edwards wouldn't have had to address it. Obama himself wouldn't have had to address it.

Typically, it's the sanctimonious, self-righteous DUers who "reserve the right to boo anyone, any time, for any reason." Because NOTHING is more important than THEIR OPINION. And don't give me the 1st Amendment stuff -- this isn't a 1st Amendment issue, it's a basic political smarts issue.

Bake

[Zhade]

52. "we've all seen it" - that's where you fail. You don't KNOW everyone's seen it.

Hell, you haven't even established that it's happened. You've only alleged it, and that's simply not evidence, no matter how much you insist it is.

[musicblind]

62. Even in a court room

you do not have to prove common everyday knowledge. If you did the trial would take centuries as we provide evidence for everything. Evidence that the sky is blue, evidence that there is gravity, evidence that blood cells exist. Some things are common knowledge. If an event has been discussed extensively in the news and commented on by the candidates, and discussed on DU. It's pretty common knowledge at that point.


When they say "Hillary lied about Bosnia" I don't run around saying "give me a link" because her Bosnia situation is now common knowledge just as the booing of Hillary and Obama rallies is common knowledge.

Most people merely use "link please?" as a debating strategy. They don't want an actual link, (because no link you provide will be good enough for them), they want to use it as a debate piece because they have no other comeback against the issues.

Anyone on here who thinks it helps Obama when Hillary is booed at his rallies is not thinking with their mind.

[Bake]

66. "Link, please."

As if that's some kind of proof. If you haven't seen it, you're not paying attention. And if you're not paying attention, any "burden of proof" is on you to pull your proverbial head out of your proverbial ass.

Denying that boos have happened at Obama rallies at the mere mention of Hillary's name, until somebody posts a link to a video, is intellectually dishonest. We're not in a court of law here (and if we were, a mere "link" wouldn't be admissible anyway).

Bake

[PoliticalAmazon]

43. Obama has spoken in Michigan on more than one occasion....

If you can't post a reference, fine, but there's no need to get snipping with ME. I'm not the one who made the accusation that OBama's audiences were booing.

I've listened to most speeches Obama has made, and I haven't heard the booing.

This is an important issue because an audience booing after the primary was over reflects badly on Obama's supporters. Even if it isn't true, the GOP will take something like this and use it against Obama. So I would like verify the report first.

[Bake]

67. Are you honestly saying that it's never happened?

Geez, pull your head out of your ass.

Bake

[dailykoff]

48. It must have been on the Hillary Channel

a.k.a. the cartoon network. :shrug:

[pnwmom]

14. "Some mousy little reporter"?

Uh-huh. You're going to pretend that you meant a guy, right? A mousy little reporter guy?

[musicblind]

63. That's what I thought when he said mousy.

I thought of a little browned haired guy in spectacles and a suit that was far too small for his frame. I didn't think of a woman. I have used mousy to describe guys on several occasions. Don't know how the person who used it in the post above meant it.

[JI7]

19. those people were fucking idiots, i want to punch them in the face

[L0oniX]

42. Assault will get you a year in prison. Don't do it.

[Beacool]

22. Par for the course.

Why would they show some class now?

[GarbagemanLB]

26. Agreed. That booing of Obama at Hillary's concession speech was downright rude.

She needs to tell her supporters to show some respect.

[Beacool]

37. That was once.

His supporters booing Hillary happened plenty of times.

[Celticsfan]

23. Stay classy n/t

[DeepModem Mom]

24. K&R

[ampad]

25. Jesus fucking Christ

Please don't boo Hillary, Please don't talk bad about Hillary, Please kiss Hillary supporters ass or they won't vote for Obama in November, Did I miss any? Seriously, you gonna tell people what to do and not to do at a rally? I see some Hillary supporters have already chimed in with their attacks on Obama supporters (Democrats) based on some random people at a rally in Michigan. I have to ask why do you give them a platform to continue attacking Obama supporters (Democrats) on this site? When you post shit like this that all you are doing is giving them the in they need to get a few digs in on Obama supporters and at this point everyone who claims to be a Dem or a liberal is an Obama supporter because the primaries are over. Yea some people are still pissed at Hillary too damn bad, I don't think you posting a plea to not boo her at rallies on the DU is gonna change that fact. How many DU'ers do you think went there to boo Hillary? Hell those people who booed her probably never even heard of DU. You are going to have to go to every rally that mentions Hillary to get your point across, good luck with that.

[grantcart]

41. Boo her - I'd love to giver a hug - she is doing more for Obama now than

anybody on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6377093

she also is getting serious about getting back to work in the Senate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6377018

[QueenOfCalifornia]

27. I would never

boo Clinton. I would have voted for her if I had too and will accept her as a VP nominee. I was not a Hillary supporter but I would never think of doing something so disrespectful.

Why would anyone who wants a Democratic victory in November do such a dumb-assed thing?
:shrug:

[PBS Poll-435]

29. Expose?

Seriously!

I thought everyting was freaking P & J.

[VolcanoJen]

32. It's a common thing at political rallies, it's not personal to Hillary, and I've always loathed it.

It makes the candidate or the candidate's introductory speaker squirm, but people do it anyway.

I think it's not as nefarious or damaging as some would suggest, in fact, it's kind of an American thing.

I remember my father and I watching Wimbledon once and laughing when it started raining, because the court announcer said, "There shall be no opening of umbrellas until the match has been called" and everyone just obeyed, while getting spat upon by the skies. My dad said, "If that was in America, fans would be opening and closing their umbrellas just to piss off the umpires."

We're an unruly lot. I hate it, but it will fade. Soon, our boos will be aimed at McCain. But there are still some raw wounds and I can see where people might misbehave in public. However, I don't see anything really damaging, in the long-term, over a little bit of inappropriate mirth-making, personally.

[bridgit]

34. pft, way too late for that suggestion. Too many will not be denied their cup o'snark...believe it!!

[Ysabel]

45. boo who...

- sorry but this thread seemed to me to be in need of some PhUN...

:D

[dailykoff]

47. If I was paying $2,300 for a chicken dinner,

I'd be tempted to cut loose. :-)

[CreekDog]

56. they were saying Boo-urns

:think:

[NC_Nurse]

57. "Have the Rolling Stones killed."

LOL!

[musicblind]

64. haha! I love that episode

[NC_Nurse]

65. Me too.

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[NC_Nurse]

58. Hopefully, people are through with such immature nonsense. It's over, let's

get over it, shall we?

[blonndee]

60. People who do that are immature and short-sighted.

Move ON. We have a war to be won.