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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:08 PM
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Gallup has an analysis today that shows in more detail how strong Obama's position is. Right now, 37% of the public self-identifies as Democrats, while just 28% self-identifies as Republicans. But that actual understates Obama's advantage. Many self-identified "independents" are actually quite partisan. When asked which party they lean toward, another 15% volunteered Democratic, while 11% said Republican. As Gallup found, "These 'leaners' are essentially as loyal to their party's candidate as are those who initially identified with a party without being prompted."

So, if you add partisan identifiers and leaners, you've got Democrats with 52% of the public, and Republicans with just 39%. That 52% is almost identical to the percentage of voters who told the NBC News/WSJ poll that they want a Democrat to win the White House. It's also nearly identical to the percentage that strongly disapproves of President Bush's job performance. (Which is to say, even if McCain wins all the voters who strongly approve, somewhat approve, and somewhat disapprove of Bush, he'll still fall a bit short if Obama gets all the strong Bush disapprovers.)

Obviously, it won't shake out exactly that way, but it's an indication of where things stand. It's virtually impossible terrain for McCain. He can't win without massive defections from the Democratic base. Unfortunately for him, campaigns usually increase partisanship -- as voters learn more about the candidates, they sort themselves into their partisan categories.

The spin on some of the coverage is that McCain is overperforming, and Obama underperforming, relative to the political landscape. That's true, and will probably be true in November. But the important point is that Obama has a big cushion. He can lose a fair number of Democrats, and lose among true swing voters, and still win anyway.

--Jonathan Chait
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:17 PM
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1. PLEASE be true. I am so sick of losing elections.
I'm much more excited about Obama than I was about Kerry, but I've come to
realize that my finger ain't exactly on the pulse of mainstream America. :(

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:25 PM
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2. We absolutely cannot afford to lose this year, and we won't. I'm
hoping for massive turnout. That would be difficult to steal.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:34 PM
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3. I think we'll be ok, but I think it will be closer then some here think.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 08:38 PM
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4. And we also have to factor in that Obama
has only just begun.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 09:09 PM
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5. Yep. His numbers will get better. Hopefully that will make Tweety STFU. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:38 PM
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6. Poor tweety's going to be
left in the dust on this..he doesn't have clue. Irony is that he should but he obviously doesn't.

It's KO and only KO, evidently, who gets it.

I haven't heard anything about Cafferty lately..is he still one of the good guys?
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