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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:11 AM
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It's interesting to note that Nixon barely won the '68 election
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 05:13 AM by fujiyama
People see a lot of parallels between this year and 1968. It's worth noting that Nixon barely won that election.

Check out the "What if" scenario at US Election Atlas:
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http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

Scenario - a change of 153,573 votes (0.21% of national total) in four states from Nixon to Humphrey results in a victory for Humphrey. Missouri - 10,245 votes (0.57%); New Jersey - 30,631 votes (1.07%); Ohio - 30,215 votes (1.14%); and Illinois - 67,481 votes (1.46%).

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Why do I mention this? Because, a small number of votes can seriously affect an election - and likewise a disastrous and unwinnable war. While I know that many hated Humphrey due to his association with Johnson, had a few bitter supporters of other candidates actually voted for him, we wouldn't have seen the mess that Nixon was (and there is no doubt that Humphrey would have been a much better president than Nixon). And please don't tell me that Nixon was "moderate"...yeah, he was moderate in the same way that McCain is a maverick.

So, people that are bitter should not let emotions get the best of them. This is a very important year. Either we keep on a course of disaster or we get a fresh start. It's up to us....
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:34 AM
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1. Older peers of mine used to tell me "a small number of votes could have stopped Nixon"
I did not know what to make of it since I was a preteenager. But my "born in the 50s" peers were quite aware of politics. Draft lotteries and all that...

I think that a 1% swing is asking for a lot though.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:37 AM
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2. i wonder if McCain will come out with a "secret plan" to end the war
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:04 AM
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3. What? And give up his secret plan to
bomb, bomb, bomb,; bomb, bomb, Iran .... and keep US troops there for another 100 years?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:40 AM
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6. that is all that there is now
USS Stay the Course
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:14 AM
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4. Similarly, JFK picked LBJ as a vice president...and LBJ was very successful.
Even though it is not often discussed, LBJ did more for SS, special education, medicare, and rights to privacy than any president. LBJ started as a teacher. At the time, JFK was criticized by just about everyone for picking his opponent as VP and LBJ had a reputation of being divisive. Kennedy knew that he needed the experience.

Sound familiar?

Yes, I'm afraid that if Hillary is not included somehow a few swing votes could turn this election.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:09 AM
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8. Heh, Johnson helped Kennedy because he brought in the SOUTH.
Hillary can't do that. She would not benefit Obama demographically.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:25 PM
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9. Unless you count the GOP wives and mothers who would cross over to Hillary.
There is no equivalent population of minority who would cross over for Obama. Yes, those women could swing a close state.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:33 AM
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5. 535 votes
Yes the machines were corrupted, the vote was suppressed, and the absentee ballot boxes were stuffed, but none of this was new to FL politics. The repugs figured they had done enough of the typical manipulation to give GWB a commanding lead. There is no point in stealing an election and leaving it this close.

Just a couple of thousand more votes, and the last 8 years would have been quite different indeed.

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:56 AM
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7. Didn't it help that his main opponent was assassinated? Duh. nt
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