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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:34 PM
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Poll question: Which voting block is most important for Hillary to court for Obama?
Perhaps not the most articulate way to word this, but which voting block is MOST important for Hillary to try to reel in for Obama? I'm including the most notable voting blocks that Hillary won during the primary race. Obviously, Hillary will campaign for all of the voting blocks, but which voting block is MOST important for Hillary to help in. Discussion is welcome. :patriot:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:36 PM
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1. I think she should work on women votes and Bill should work on blue collar
and appalachian votes.

That's my .02...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:38 PM
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2. Maybe Sen. Clinton and Oprah can help court the women.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:39 PM
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3. I actually think it's senior voters
For some reason, Obama's campaign seems absolutely befuddled as to how to win over senior voters yet Hillary had no trouble whatsoever winning them over. Perhaps the seniors just really like Hillary or something.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:40 PM
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4. I voted Hispanics because McCain ought to drive women into Obama's camp
McCain thinks Scalia, Roberts and Alito are the bees knees. That will wake women up like a cod fish smack across a bare butt.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:49 PM
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5. seniors seniors seniors
Not counting senior women they split the women vote almost 50-50. The road to the WH goes through old people
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:00 PM
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6. I've heard pundits analyzing polls
claiming that seniors are the ones most likely to say that age is a negative factor for McCain. It will be interesting to see how the courtship of the senior vote goes. I mean, should Bill and Hillary reference a couple of their gaffes as 'senior moments'?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:02 PM
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7. White racist Democrats.
Hillary stirred them up, now she needs to bring them back to the Democratic Party.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:03 PM
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8. so which subgroup would that be?
I'm guessing you're tagging that as the Appalachian vote?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:06 PM
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9. No. Don't put words in my mouth. The poll subgroups don't match my opinion.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:08 PM
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10. Alright, let me rephrase my question then
and please don't get angry. Where would you send Hillary out to campaign then to try to win over the white, racist vote? It's not like they all hold a convention that she can request to speak at. :rofl:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:51 PM
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30. Not angry - just pointing out that racists exist everywhere, not just Appalachia.
There are nests of racists in every state, even the most liberal. Hillary needs to visit those states with a critical mass of racists, enough to tip the state.

I believe that Hillary Clinton will be most useful campaigning for Obama in the midwest and mideast states, especially Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan. We can win those four states in November if the rank-and-file white Democrats support Obama.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:09 PM
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11. None. I looked at the list and have spoken with people from those groups
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 03:11 PM by davidwparker
who voted for Obama here in Virginia. Primaries are just preferences -- mine was Edwards unless Gore entered the race.

When the GE arrives, 18 million will not be sitting home just because Hillary isn't on the top of the ticket (or on the ticket at all).

Sure, you'll find some who will, but you always find examples of people who cut off their noses to spite their faces.

She should just give speeches about taking back the WH and issues that are important to her.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:12 PM
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12. Alright, let's phrase it this way
You're Obama's campaign manager. Hillary asks you where do you want her to concentrate her campaigning efforts and which voter blocks she should target the most with her campaign speeches. She tells you that she could give a generic speech, but which voting block should she concentrate the MOST on.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:50 PM
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23. Same answer as before. Hillary giving a pro-Democratic party speech all
over the country is she needs to do.

hokies4ever, how much difference between Obama and Hillary on policy do you think there is?

I would have been a Hillary supporter if I could tolerate that NAFTA-signing Clinton back in the WH. It was never about not Hillary, who is a mighty fine woman. For me, it was about can no longer stand Bill Clinton.

If Hillary went with her gut and wasn't so formulaic, she would have won.

If Edwards went with his gut and didn't vote for the Iraq resolution, he may have bested Kerry in Iowa when the party stabbed Dean in the back. He may have bested Obama in Iowa this time around.


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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:13 PM
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13. White trash pot bangers, Appalachian Americans, etc. (n/t)
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:14 PM
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14. Here's a hug
:hug: You'll thank me for it after people start flaming you. :rofl:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:21 PM
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15. I will thank you for it now, because I know I will need it :-)
:hug:

:hide:
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:22 PM
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16. All of the protesters who were at the Rules Committee meeting, for starters
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:36 PM
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21. Maybe send Hillary down to Florida for some campaigning?
After all, she could say that she fought for their vote more than anybody else.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:23 PM
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17. I've always thought if she could harness the majority of women...
the election was hers. No different in this case. Hillary will help give Obama the WH, IMO.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:31 PM
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18. But, but, but....All are important.
If I had to chose one I'd chose the one that has the largest constituency and I have no idea which one that would be. :shrug:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:33 PM
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19. Women. Hillary is not *especially* great among any of the other groups.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:37 PM
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22. She was with seniors
and she actually split even with women under 65 with Obama.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:35 PM
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20. i think he can get what he needs without her.
With her would be easier, and if she had decided to work against him behind the scenes it would be harder, but he can do it on his own. His campaign is about the best I've ever seen.
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Donkey_Punch_Dubya Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:03 PM
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24. Senior turnout is always high. If she does well there, I pick seniors
I think she could speak to the rabble rousers who are trying to cause division (republican plants). That way, the people who might be influenced by the shit stirrers will hear her tell them that she wants them to vote Obama, and that voting McCain or disrupting is exactly the opposite of what she wants.

That way nobody will fall for the republican plants' lie of "Hillary wants you to write her in/vote McCain." And they will be called out.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:05 PM
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25. Older white women. PERIOD.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:29 PM
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28. I think you might be right
this constituency voted heavily against Obama, but Hillary might be able to convince them to vote heavily for Obama. If that happens, McSame should just pack up his bags and save his wife the airfare money of campaigning. :rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:07 PM
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26. Clearly, it's seniors ... male and female.
It's a MYTH ... a falsehood ... that women don't support Obama. It's been shown false time and time again. It's that cohort of seniors that're change averse ... who have difficulty accepting his complexion.

My mother is iconic of this. She's 88 year old and a (former) bigot. She STILL harbors racist biases. She said "I still don't like the idea of a black or a woman as President. It's a man's job." She is FAR from being extreme in this regard. (She knows better around me.) She WILL vote for Obama. She ALSO said "Well, I hope I'm still alive to see them in the White House." (I was pointing out how beautiful Obama's family was.)

Mixed messages? Ubetcha. It takes a while for folks to restructure a lifetime's thinking.

I'm a 'senior' as well. But I've been on the blunted edge of this shit all my life ... many times being called a "n____r-lover" and "pu__y-whipped" and a "f_g" for seeking out and associating with diverse people ... and standing up for ALL of our rights. Hell ... I LOVE the variety and diversity of humanity! Viva la difference! I'm weird. Alwasy have been. A nut. And I know my generation and those older than me. It's the 'seniors.'
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:31 PM
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29. It might be a falsehood, but
looks like most people voted for 'women'. Goes to show how much influence the media has.
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progetto Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:11 PM
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27. I think it's the blue collar workers
that will need more effort convincing them to vote for Obama.

There's been a lot of coverage of women saying they'd vote McCain if Hillary wasn't the nominee, but I think they'll change their minds once they see McSame offers them nothing.

Hillary can really help with both groups. She's going to make a big difference.
Thanks Hillary !
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:06 PM
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31. All the blocks she worked hard to turn against him (n/t)
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:09 PM
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32. herself first, whoever is next won't matter then - nt
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:14 PM
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33. ALL
Granted, we all have different points of view depending on demographics and the circumstances we find ourselves in, and that does need to be taken into account, but it's time to stop allowing ourselves to be sliced and diced into factions that can be pitted against one another. We're all in this together.
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