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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:03 PM
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Who exactly is Larry Johnson?
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 02:03 PM by madaboutharry
Is this the former CIA agent who went through training with Valerie Plame?

If this is the same person, then he must have sucked as a CIA agent. He obviously doesn't seem too concerned about the issue of evidence.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:04 PM
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1. The fact that
Valerie Plame Wilson was forced to retire early, due to the scandal, should give one pause to think.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:06 PM
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2. Johnson was a whistle blower and a supporter of the Wilsons
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:06 PM
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3. Now he wastes his time spreading rumors on the internets.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:07 PM
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5. I know who he is. n/t
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:55 PM
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29. He is an honorable man.
I believe in free speech and will not judge him unkindly.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:02 PM
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31. Except he is obsessed with smearing Obama.
It's sad.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:12 PM
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35. if he lies you have to call him on his BS
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:16 PM
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36. Of course.
O8)
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:07 PM
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4. I'm not getting what your saying here.
n/t
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:09 PM
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7. He blew the whistle on come CIA stuff then resigned
When the shit hit the fan with the Wilsons, he was one of their most vocal supporters. He still is
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:15 PM
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16. "Legend"
{1} "A legend is a false biography." -- Yuri Ivanovich Nosenko, KBG officer

{2} "In the field of intelligence, a legend is an operational plan for cover, or a cover itself, depending on the mission." -- James Jesus Angleton; chief of counterespionage unit, CIA

Many things are not what they appear. Despite some people thinking Mr. Johnson is a progressive voice, I would suggest that is an error in thinking.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:38 PM
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23. I am familiar with the term. You are probably privy to more info that I am
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:10 PM
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10. I'm not sure I'm following here.
Plame was forced out because of Rove/Cheney/Little Boots, etc. leaking her name to Novak and some other media head. Johnson came to her defense instantly.

I always liked him before. He is a republican who spoke out against * for years. I am so sorry to see what he is doing now.

But I don't think his latest antics include Wilson or Plame. Yes, Wilson and Plame are Clinton supporters, but still, I don't see them participating in the current Johnson chaos.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:12 PM
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12. Exactly
And I think he blew the whistle on some CIA stuff but I can't recall the details
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:13 PM
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15. Yes, I think you are correct. He was a whistleblower of some kind.
I can not recall all the details. So much has happened over the past eight years, I just can't keep track of everything! :crazy:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:15 PM
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17. I can't either so don't feel bad
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:20 PM
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19. No, his actions
do not include Mr. or Mrs. Wilson. That is not what I meant. I would instead think that one consider how unlikely it would be that a sincere Plame supporter would resign from the CIA to protest what happened to her. She was not done wrong, at least before Larry "resigned," by the Agency. In fact, Mr. Wilson's book shows quite clearly that the CIA was backing a full investigation of the scandal. More, without question, there was a conflict between the OVP and CIA regarding intelligence.

Often, those connected to the CIA continue to do missions for them, even after retiring. Mr. Wilson took his second trip to Niger while retired.

I support Joseph and Valerie Wilson 100%. But I do not care for anything about Larry.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:21 PM
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20. He didn't resign because of the Wilsons
He was already out before all that. Remember when GWB blamed the CIA for "faulty intelligence" on Iraq? That had something to do with it and some whistle blowing of which the details escape me.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:29 PM
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21. Respectfully disagree.
He is one of two things: a person who is sincere about being an advocate for justice, or a person who used that cover to disrupt. I recognize that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is based upon familiarity with related issues. I think he is a skunk.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:32 PM
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22. Now you do have me thinking
So in this instance, given that Roger Stone seems to have started the whisper campaign, would an appropriate analogy be Roger Stone is to Karl Rove as Larry Johnson is to Scooter Libby?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:40 PM
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24. Ya got me
I also heard the Rudy Gulianni fits in there somehow
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:45 PM
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26. Any time Roger Stone is involved,
it's a nasty, lying slimefest. I'm leery of anyone who would cooperate with him, directly or indirectly.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:54 PM
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27. There are some
important threads regarding the Sibel Edmonds case on DU:GD. They deserve much more attention than they get. (In fact, Ms. Edmonds contributes to some of the threads.)

It is worth noting her impression of this fellow. I can say that a few of the journalists who have been investigating her case have asked me, in private, for my opinion. Again, everyone has as much to their opinion as I have to mine. But it is important to base one's opinion on as much information as possible.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:40 PM
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38. Thanks
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 03:53 PM by suffragette
I hadn't seen the recent ones. And will now need to go back to read the earlier ones more closely.

It's really like peeling off all the layers of a very large onion, isn't it? But, it seems to be getting closer to the core.

Have a question, but I'll send a PM to you since it diverges from this thread, if that's ok.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:07 PM
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6. Yes, this is the same person.
Which really surprises me. If I recall correctly, he use to be on Air America all the time. I haven't heard him on AA, or my local KTLK progrssive station, in a long time. I think it is sad he has gone this direction. It is one thing to advocate for your candidate, and another thing to go off the deep end.

To her credit, I do not recally Senator Clinton using him as a surrogate at all. I'm sure she wishes he would shut up, too!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:10 PM
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11. He used to comment on FOX but they fired him....sort of
or let him go because he was too much against the Iraq war
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:12 PM
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13. OK, I don't watch FOX, even in passing, so I don't know his relationship with FOX.
I do know I heard him all the time on KTLK. Now I don't. However, if I had a radio show and saw what he was doing, I would be leary about having him on, as well.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:18 PM
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18. He used to bash Bush on FOX so they got rid of him
At one time he was a Republican until GWB blamed the CIA for faulty intelligence on Iraq. Johnshon blew the whistle on some things and resiged from the CIA.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:10 PM
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8. I haven't heard whether or not the Wilsons are backing Obama.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:02 PM
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32. When she appeared
on stage with Michelle Obama, Valerie Plame Wilson stated that if Barack won the nomination, she would be supporting him.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:10 PM
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9. Larry Johnson is a CIA Bush Crime Family criminal thug
Former FAUX Noize propagandist and friend of absolutely NOBODY who gives a fuck about restoring this country.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:12 PM
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14. This Is What he Is Now
Regardless of who or what he used to be.

2008
In 2008, Johnson has emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. He has "briefed Senator Clinton" and has dedicated several blog entries to praising her, even writing that "she is gracious, charming, and can laugh at herself." He claimed on May 8 that "Hillary has more popular votes." On March 30 he wrote that "Hillary has not used invective or insult of any kind against Obama or anyone associated with his campaign. Hillary has fought to eliminate such vile talk from the public arena."

Johnson has devoted several blog entries to examining Obama's past and has concluded that Obama has "Memory Loss", "is lying about significant portions of his life", and is "deliberately deceptive and misleading." Johnson has asserted that "Obama and his campaign are working hard to obfuscate and cover up".

On May 14, 2008, after Obama appeared to lock up the Democratic nomination, Johnson wrote "Hillary needs to stay in the campaign till the end because by the time August rolls around the damage to Barack will be so significant that rational folks will realize he is unelectable notwithstanding the mess Republicans have made of things. My advice? Patience. Let Barack have his codpiece, 'Mission Accomplished' moment. Like George Bush, he will rue his strutting and preening and declaring premature victory. Reality will intrude."



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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:43 PM
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25.  Many of you here have very selective fogged memories
Just toss everyone under the bus except the do nothing Dems who back your candidate. Talk about Alice in Wonderland!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:55 PM
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28. Odd.
He has never claimed to be a democrat.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:06 PM
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33.  What does that say ?
Joe Wilson was a Republican before Bush jr came along. Does this mean then that no one can be a republican and then change their minds because they are for rather than against america. They speak out because they see what is wrong. And they get slammed for it.

I would not put everything on the D or R when some people do have a conscience when they see things going the wrong way.

Look at our wonderful 110th congress running on ending the war yet they have caved at every opportunity. Some people choose to do the right thing rather than follow party lines.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:07 PM
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34. It says
that you were wrong. Nothing more, nothing less.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:57 PM
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40. what ever you say , the one with all the answers
and vague replies. No explanation other than to say I am wrong.
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mrbscott19 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:01 PM
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30. Larry Johnson
Is the guy from "Super Troopers" that got meowed!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 04:28 PM
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42. Do I look like a cat to you, boy?
Am I jumpin' around all nimbly-bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? DO YOU SEE ME EATING MICE?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:18 PM
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37. Judge him by his words..
he stood up for Valerie Plame. Kudos to him for that. I doubt he will lay off the lies and innuendo in his attempts to smear Obama. I think he has a problem with black people.
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john128 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:47 PM
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39. Larry j = not good
you should not say these bad things.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 04:24 PM
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41. Death Squad Larry?
He's a hell of a guy.
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