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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:45 PM
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HRC as VP?? HA! Vet this...
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 PM by rainbow4321
And this doesn't even touch the whole library donorgate stuff and more recent Clinton business transactions

http://prorev.com/connex.htm





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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071105/baker_federman

In the Clintons' pursuit of power, there is no such thing as a strange bedfellow. One recently exposed inamorata was Norman Hsu, the mysterious businessman from Hong Kong who brought in $850,000 to Hillary Clinton's campaign before being unmasked as a fugitive. Her campaign dismissed Hsu as someone who'd slipped through the cracks of an otherwise unimpeachable system for vetting donors, and perhaps he was. The same cannot be said for the notorious financier Alan Quasha, whose involvement with Clinton is at least as substantial--and still under wraps.

Political junkies will recall Quasha as the controversial figure who bailed out George W. Bush's failing oil company in 1986, folding Bush into his company, Harken Energy, thus setting him on the path to a lucrative and high-profile position as an owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, and the presidency. The persistently unprofitable Harken--many of whose board members, connected to powerful foreign interests and the intelligence community, nevertheless profited enormously--faced intense scrutiny in the early 1990s and again during Bush's first term.

Now Quasha is back--on the other side of the aisle. Operating below the radar, he entered Hillary Clinton's circle even before she declared her candidacy by quietly arranging for the hire of Clinton confidant and longtime Democratic Party money man Terry McAuliffe at one of his companies. During the interregnum between McAuliffe's chairmanship of the Democratic Party and the time he officially joined Clinton's campaign, Quasha's firm set McAuliffe up with a salary and opened a Washington office for him.


Just a few years earlier, McAuliffe had publicly criticized Bush for his financial dealings with Harken, disparaging the company's Enron-like accounting. Yet in 2005 McAuliffe accepted this cushy perch with Quasha's newly acquired investment firm, Carret Asset Management, and even brought along former Clinton White House business liaison Peter O'Keefe, who had been his senior aide at the Democratic National Committee. McAuliffe remained with the company until he became national chair of Hillary's presidential bid, and O'Keefe never left. McAuliffe's connection to Quasha has, until now, never been noted.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:48 PM
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1. Goood luck with that.
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think4yourself Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:49 PM
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2. That's a a lot of convoluted baggage
He's smarter than that.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:59 PM
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6. No, he is not and on top of it he seems to have no control over is tongue.
Bill has a ton of baggage and a good deal is not convoluted at all--he just won't reveal it.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:52 PM
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3. She's Smarter Than That
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:57 PM
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5. Right, why ruin her career when she's done it already?
Unless you think she has a future in Democratic politics after this.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:00 PM
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7. REPEAT: She doesn't want it. Did you read the link?
Why crash and burn in November?

It doesn't make any sense.

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:07 PM
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10. Why did she tell people she was open to it then?
She was saying this until the backlash from her Congressional supporters hit her like a brick wall.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:11 PM
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27. Today = Schumer: Clinton Would Accept VP Spot
"She has said if Sen. Obama should want her to be vice president and thinks it would be best for the ticket, she will serve, she will accept that. But on the other hand, if he chooses someone else she will work just as hard for the party in November," Schumer told ABC's "Good Morning America."

http://www.nbc10.com/politics/16522098/detail.html

keep yappin.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:13 PM
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13. My God...you people are so arrogant. Her career isn't ruined, but your hatred is astounding.
Hillary is a senator. There is no evidence in polling from NY that her re-elect is in any way in jeapordy. None. The latest poll I saw had her numbers down--at 55%. And the election isn't even for another 4 years, which makes all this talk nonsense to begin with.

As for "after this"....that is the kind of self-righteous attitude that turns people away from Obama and his "movement." There was an election. One candidate won the nomination, the other didn't. There were hurt feeling on both sides. And now it's over. The claim that Hillary's campaign was unusually negative, compared to Hart vs. Mondale or Gore vs. Bradly, is not supported by the facts of history. And Obama threw some pretty sharp elbows at her.

Grow up. Hillary will fine. Obama is the one with an election to win and people like you aren't helping.

Then again, if he loses you will just turn around and blame it on her.

Steve
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:55 PM
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16. If you want to talk about arrogance, you need to talk Clinton.
And no, nobody's being "turned away." You choose to find an excuse not to get on board, just like you choose to ignore the fact that the Clinton supporters have been by an order of magnitude the source of the anger, the bitterness, and the hatred.

You talk about "hurt feelings on both sides," and then tell the unmitigated falsehood that she was no more negative than anybody else. This alone shows that you've lost all objectivity. The Clinton campaign was by far one of the dirtiest in recent history, a fact which is universally acknowledged by objective political observers.

Speaking as a NY state voter, I for one don't intend to vote for her again after her bad behavior this election. I'll support her primary challenger--and I guarantee you she'll have one--and if that doesn't work I'll simply leave the Senate line blank. I don't want to be represented by someone who's proven that principle and party loyalty mean absolutely nothing to them.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:58 PM
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18. Oh far too many would blame her and have voiced as much, doesn't
show much faith in one's candidate if they are hinting he might lose and it would be Sen clintons fault, perhaps if they got off their collected assets and realized that the voter fraud issue has not to this day been addressed properly perhaps they would realize where the real threat lies if he loses and it wouldn't be Sen Clinton's fault but theirs for looking in the wrong direction.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:08 PM
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19. No, it means that people are pissed about Clinton trying to kneecap...
The best candidate in years. And the fact that being stabbed in the back by petty personal ego is really his only chance of losing.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:08 PM
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24. Thats a copout, have a bit more faith in your candidate..
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:55 PM
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4. Its all old stuff, though
fully investigated, nothing came of it.

Its fresh, new scandals that get the public's attention.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:00 PM
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8. Like library donors, and banging Gina Gershon. nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:03 PM
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9. Sorry, the latter has been debunked
and its not likely there is much new stuff out there.

Voters have become immune to Clinton faux scandals. They know they're usually false and will assume the same if new stuff gets circulated.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:12 PM
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11. Yet you don't address the former??
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 10:12 PM by rainbow4321
http://www.muckety.com/William-J-Clinton-Presidential-Library/5009090.muckety

Interactive map of 2 of the known donors and others associated with the library...if there is this much shit about the KNOWN donors, think of how BAD the news must be for the ones they refuse to make public.
Click on the names to get more connections.

Ones on this list/map:

Denise Rich
Vinod Gupta (aka InfoUSA--hmmm about that SEC investigation....)




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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:57 PM
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17. Debunked? Maybe, but I think it unlikely Vanity Fair implied that without evidence.
And frankly I wouldn't really blame him much if it were true, given the likely state of his marriage.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:11 PM
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20. Billy Clinton Fucked
Crystal Connors?


Really?


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:13 PM
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12. Conspiracy Theories
Belong in the dungeon.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:14 PM
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14. interesting narrative on that site chronicalling her corporate/medical care catastrophe nt
.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:37 PM
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15. The link to "The Nation" doesn't work...
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:38 PM
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22. Still works when I click on it
Try it again, maybe? :shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:53 PM
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25. thanks. it worked!
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john128 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 03:47 PM
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21. Very good graphical representation
This picture is all you should look at with obama
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 05:39 PM
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23. We got a live one!
:rofl:
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