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dsomuah Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:31 PM
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If Hillary wants the VP post she should ...
... interview for it like everyone else.

Why does it feel like her and her supporters feel they should be entitled to it just because of who she is?

First of all this is not a Hillary bashing post. I'm not about to call her names.

But I am going to say, that I don't think that Hillary should just be granted the post. I think that they should interview her, interview the other candidates and consider all the factors: foreign policy experience, the consituency each person brings to the table, their economic qualifications, their ability to get into the typical attack-dog role of a VP candidate, and (most importantly) the sort of role the envision for themself as a vice president, and why they want the VP role.

I don't like many of the arguments I've seen for Hillary as vice president because they all seem to suggest that Hillary is entitled to the post. I've never liked that about Hillary. Throughout her campaign I've gotten the impression both from her and her supporters that they felt that Hillary was entitled to the nomination, and that anyone who didn't agree that she was the best person for the job must be out of their minds. A lot of the arguments in favor of making Hillary veep seem to run along the same vein. I don't think anyone should just be handed the VP position. That would be like hiring your cousin for a job without interviewing him because he is your cousin. He may certainly be qualified for the job, but is he really more qualified for it than each one of the 9 or 10 candidates that would have applied if you had taken an ad out in the paper? If I were trying to fill a position here at my company I would resent it if my cousin told me to give it to him just because we are cousins, and I resent the implication that Hillary should be given the job just because she is Hillary. A VP search commitee has been appointed they will screen candidates, and hopefully interview all potential candidates, and they will reach a decision. I think that's the way to do it.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:33 PM
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1. ... stop trying to BULLY her way on to the ticket.
He OWES her nothing.

She has some pros and some cons and I'm sure she will be considered, but demanding, bullying, petitioning, etc. isn't helping her cause - it's hurting it.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:35 PM
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3. I agree. Political maneuvering to get this job is not appropriate.
It is something that should be offered and then accepted. Not the other way around.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:34 PM
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2. She disqualified herself by refusing to allow Obama to vet Clinton Library donors.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:36 PM
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4. The main reason the Clinton supporters are so pissed off is because of entitlement
They (wrongly) assumed Hillary was entitled to become President without working for it.

Thats why many of them claim to hate Obama too.

They are still stuck in that mindset, but since she's lost they've moved their belief in her entitlement to becoming VP.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:39 PM
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5. I do not know a single Clinton supporter who thought she was entitled to the nomination
That is a talking point put out by people who don't like her.

If she thought she was entitled, why would she have worked so hard? The whole idea is nonsense on its face and I'm tired of hearing it.

This has been the closest primary race I've ever seen. It's statistically a tie. I believe personally that she HAS earned the right to be on the ticket, and I also think that it doesn't matter who donated to BILL'S library.
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dsomuah Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:58 PM
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8. Ferraro does
Ferraro thinks that Hillary not getting the nomination is so inexplicable that it can only be put down to affirmative action by voters and the media on Obama's behalf. That's just one person I came up with off the top of my head. When I have more time I'll tell you the many many many things Hillary said and did herself said that make me feel like she feels entitled.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:39 PM
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6. I always thought that was ironic.
Obama wasn't entitled to a job. He doesn't have experience, but he proved that the has qualities greater than experience. He had to bust his ass to get us to believe in him. That is the opposite of entitlement.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:42 PM
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7. No one can say Hillary didn't work her ass off.
Your post is untrue, and I haven't heard one word out of Hillary's mouth stating she feels entitled to becoming the VP. I doubt she wants it. In fact, I hope it never happens.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:58 PM
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9. Go ask McCain directly for the job
Unfortunately for her that's the best shot she has at becoming the VP. And a lot of her positions aren't really that far outside of the republican mainstream. she would be a pretty good fit with grampy and who knows, a lot of things can happen when your pres is 107 yrs old.
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