Angry Clinton Supporters Start Rallying for McCain Online

[LTR]

They're mad as hell, and Hillary Clinton's supporters aren't going to take it anymore.

Some Clintonites are so mad about Barack Obama's Tuesday victory that they've launched a web site to build support to launch a lobbying group to support Republican John McCain.

"We're going to run campaign ads to defeat Obama," says Ed Hale, a 63-year-old rancher and a Clinton supporter from Wellington, Texas. "We have doctors, lawyers, CPAs, the blue bloods, and then we have rednecks like me. It's a very diversified organization."

(snip)

Hale launched the "Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain" group last Saturday. The campaign claims to have 5,000 supporters, and its website visitor counter says that it has already attracted 37,8071 visitors.

"Last night, when they crowned Obama king, that's when I sent my e-mails out to people, and since then, we've gotten thousands of hits," he says.

Hale, a Vietnam veteran and a long-time Democrat, says that many of the group's supporters are Reagan Democrats, and their primary concern is foreign policy and defense. A call to the Texas Democratic Party confirmed that he was supposed to have been a delegate to the state convention this week.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/angry-clinton-s.html?fark

Reagan Democrats my ass. They're Republicans.

:eyes:

And if McCain wasn't good enough when she was in, why is he any better now?

Watch this one get its 15 minutes, then fade.

[TeamsterDem]

1. Hale can go Cheney himself. n/t

[Fran Kubelik]

11. ha! perfect.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

67. Their message: HILLARY = JOHN MCCAIN OR MCSAME

Not flattering message about their candidate.

[Fran Kubelik]

68. I agree. It's stupid.

I'm a Clinton supporter and I think it's ridiculous. I am sure Hillary does too.

[VeraAgnes]

33. Whoa..............They are not republicans

and we need their vote. Obama needs to court the girls back to the Party. McCain can see they are valuable; why can't we do that? I'm sure they have been activist and donors...........yeap, we need them.

[TeamsterDem]

41. "They are not republicans" --- sure they're not.

if you want to go chasing people setting up websites and groups to elect McSame you go right ahead. I wont stop you or criticize you but I'll be damned if I'm going to get involved in that folly. If I wanted to see what a perfect waste of time felt like I'd go listen to one of McSame's speeches.

[VeraAgnes]

48. Obama can do it.

He has the control of the Party now.

[miles 2 go]

46. They may not be republicans but they sure as hell act as stupid

as the uninformed republicans who vote repub even though it's against their own best interest. Let's call them the woodsy variety of republican. Must be born out in the fuckin woods or something.

[LowerManhattanite]

51. “Obama needs to court the girls back to the Party...”

Isn't this kind of sexist in itself to say? What is he? Some sort of Valentino-esque suitor? Bearing flowers and fine bon-bons? How Goddamned retrograde.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

58. Ed Hale is a "girl"?

The founder of this organization is a man who is clearly a megahawk. Fuck'm and his organization.

On edit: And, oh yeah, fuck any Dem/feminist "girl" who votes McCain over Obama.

[NJmaverick]

2. It took an intervention to get Hillary to realize and accept she lost

is it any surprise that many of her supporters are equally out of touch?

[Saturday]

8. That's hateful speech and does no good BO supporter. nt

[melody]

12. It's not hateful, it's reality

We're supposed to shut our eyes and pretend they're not trying to derail our party?

[IsItJustMe]

Truth is not hatefull, It is what it is.

[NJmaverick]

17. Ahh there is not hate in that speech, it's just the harsh reality of the situation

Sorry if you don't like the truth

[populistdriven]

34. TRUTH has a strong LIBERAL bias - Stop fighting the truth and your cognitive dissonance will ease.

nt

[dionysus]

39. you guys call anything not 1000% kissing your ass hateful. grow a thicker skin plz.

[TahitiNut]

53. Emotional codependency much?

When folks surrender control over their own behavior and act in self-destructive ways, blaming another, it's called "codependent" behavior.

Q to husband: "Why do you drink so much?"
Husband: "Because she nags."
Q to wife: "Why do you nag?"
Wife: "Because he drinks."

Oversimplified? Sure. Emotional codependency is, imho, one of the most common neuroses in our society. I personally believe it leads to depression and other more sever maladies.

The pernicious myth than we can control the behavior of others - especially common with poor parents - leads to a surrender of control over our own behavior ... which is about the only thing we're barely well-equipped enough to achieve.

:rant:

[Lerkfish]

60. well, I guess if you consider truth to be hateful...ok.

[Jersey Devil]

3. "Reagan Democrats" tells the story

They were never Democrats, just disenchanted right wing types who claimed to have been Democrats in the past. I have one of those in my family, an uncle who calls himself a "Reagan Democrat". The truth is he hasn't voted for a Democrat since Harry Truman.

I suspect that many of these really radical Hillary "supporter" sites belong to people like that and that real Democrats who support Hillary do not have that kind of animosity toward Obama and will vote for him once theey have some time to deal with their disappointment and emotions.

[TeamsterDem]

5. Totally agreed. I think we're all issued an uncle like yours. I want to strangle mine. n/t

[BrklynLib at work]

16. I believe that is what the more rational and intelligent among will do..

[Peacetrain]

25. You hit that nail directly on its head

They never had an inclination of voting democratic.. reagan dems, have kept their registration but voted republican for almost 30 years now.. and they hate the clintons above all.. just another tactic to derail the democratic party.. this juggernaut is scary for them this time, and they will do anything, and I mean anything to hurt the party..

And like any candidate, clinton has her out on the edge supporters who will no doubt be in denver, denver, denver.. obama has them too..but the atwater/rovian/rush theory of stealing from you and telling you about it to your face, is working on that very small group who have invested too much of themselves in a candidate .. (never a good thing) and they juice them up... use them, heck even laugh at them when they call in on radio shows.. but there you have it..

Again.. certainly a very small sampling of the supporters.. but that is all it takes.. one a room of 100 who is yelling bloody murder.. will clear the entire room..

[VeraAgnes]

50. Yes they want to vote as they always have voted,

with confidence, as a Democrat! To assume they are anything less is ignorant and Obama's loss. Obama controls the Party now, he mush show the leadership and bring them back!

[Kool Kitty]

55. They can vote with confidence as a Democrat.

Obama is a Democrat.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

59. Most '''Reagan Democrats"...

are nothing but pre-civil rights Dems who never bothered to change their registration and have voted primarily GOP since 1964.

[berni_mccoy]

4. Their Anger has Turned to Insanity. This is why it was so wrong for Clinton to tout McCain

Because she said so many nice things about McCain, her more insane and/or idiotic supporters are flocking to McCain out of insane anger. And it's anger that she created within them. She could have assuaged that anger by endorsing Obama on Tuesday night.

[Saturday]

10. Stop the hate speech. nt

[IsItJustMe]

14. Are you alright? Just saying, your responses to these posts are inappropriate.

[BrklynLib at work]

18. You are being VERY kind.

[berni_mccoy]

64. Mental, aren't they?

[NightWatcher]

6. they are not Reagan Dems, they are spoiled crybaby losers who felt entitled

now they are going to damn this country out of spite that they didnt get what they wanted. The absolute worst kind of person and I hope that they have kids that are of draft age to send to fuel McSame's next and continuing wars.

This HATE is not for her supporters that convert to support the Democratic Nominee but only those who "take their ball and go to McSame's camp".

[melody]

13. They are bigots n/t

[Political Tiger]

7. Sore Losers For Hillary

would be a better name for their little self-pity group.

[mod mom]

9. "rednecks like me" Cross-over Republicans who supported Hillary

[yellerpup]

44. I think so, too. n/t

[BrklynLib at work]

15. Is a "Reagan Democrat" really a Democrat? Would they have supported FDR's

programs? How do they feel about unions? Health care? Women's right to choose?

The term "Reagan Democrat" is as inherently oxymoronic as "Gay Republican". The two words should never be uttered together in the same breath...
Right up there with military intelligence, jumbo shrimp, and of course, honest politician.

[BeyondGeography]

19. Whatever...There will be no air left in that balloon by convention time

:boring:

[hokies4ever]

20. Even George Wallace carried 10 million votes back in the 60s

Our country refused to be held hostage based on principle then, and I refuse to be held hostage based on principle now. :patriot:

[Rose Siding]

21. I'm so mad at them that I'm going to have to poke my own eye out

/sarcasm

[CanonRay]

22. Bet this jackass voted for Bush twice.

[DainBramaged]

23. Raygun Democrats, nothing more than cockroaches with computers

[lakeguy]

24. oh come on!

seriously? are hrc and bho really that different platform wise...especially when compared to mcsame?

i highly doubt these people had any intention to vote for hrc in the first place. if they are really telling the truth, then i would like that list because i know some "doctors, lawyers, and CPAs" that i would not trust with dirt, let alone my organs or money.

[Independent-Voter]

26. No surprise here - That's a bitter bunch of sourpusses

[Citizen_Penn]

27. If Hillary really supported the Democrat Party and working

Americans, she would NOW, not this weekend.

Deliver one helluva speech telling her supporters to shut the hell up with the whining and get on the donkey.

Her behavior only re-confirms my low opinion of her.

[Junkdrawer]

28. Operation Chaos "Democrats" - Yeah, they were going to vote for Hillary in the GE...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

No really...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

SHUT UP...I MEAN IT!!!1111!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[busymom]

29. wow. Crazy.

[Vilis Veritas]

30. K & R

But there will be more articles...just like it in order to create division in the party.

Be vigilant.

Peace.

[RiverStone]

31. I don't believe many of them are real Dems anyway...

There has been a lot of DINO's following Rush in lock step - just being disruptive for the hell of it. This fringe group will be ignored. In fact, we should do the same.

[The Backlash Cometh]

32. Texas Democrats, eh?

Were they really Democrats to begin with?

[WeDidIt]

35. McCain Operatives

They're out trying to sew seeds of discontent amongst Hillary supporters.

[zulchzulu]

36. If you support McCain, you support Bush, Cheney, Robertson, PNAC, endless wars/homophobia/racism...

As for Ed Hale, I assume he supports Bush and Cheney. Good riddance, turncoat.

[gristy]

37. 5,000 claimed supporters out of 18 million?

That would be .03% of the people who voted for Clinton. If I were to spend 1/2 a minute today worrying about this, I would already spend more time than it's worth.

[rodeodance]

62. Do some homework. It is one of many groups breaking with the Dem party

[DeeDeeNY]

38. "Their primary concern is foreign policy and defense"?

So it makes sense to back a candidate who needs Lieberman whispering in his ear to correct him every time he makes some stupid mistake about Iraq. These people sound are true "morans"!

[Pachamama]

40. Yeah, right...Ultra-feminists who claim to support Clinton will then in protest vote McCain in?

Who believes this for even a second? Right, women who have been fighting the good fight for decades to have equality and rights for women in the workplace, a woman's right to choose, etc. and they are going to vote for McCain over Obama and have the whole SCOTUS permanently made into a right wing court that reverses everything?

Don't believe it folks...these are right wingers pretending to be Clinton supporters and it smacks of Rovian tactics and its a joke....

[Pisces]

42. Leave already. These people will never vote for Obama, There are a lot more new voters that will!!

People who have never been involved in the process are going to register and vote for Obama!!! Everyone should be volunteering to help sign up new voter registration. People who have felt disenfranchised, who thought what does it matter will be voting this GE.
There are 300 million people in the US. I guarantee we can cover the few thousand Reagan Dems that won't vote for Obama. A change is gonna come and it is going to scare the shit oudt of the repukes.

[Imagevision]

43. Rush Limbaugh's Angry Clinton Supporters Start Rallying for McCain Online

yaaawwwnnnn.....!

[Career Prole]

45. So is this the face this election's "swiftboat veterans" will take?

We all remember "Swiftboat Veterans for the Truth". We know it's coming again. The fake "grassroots" website campaign with the bullshit ads funded with big bucks from the repukes. They felt it did some damage in 2004, so we can count on more of the same this go-round. Forewarned is forearmed.

[crickets]

65. Exactly what I was thinking this morning.

These are not Democrats, they're professional pot-stirrers.

[sundancekid]

47. nose meets spite meets face

these screamers were NEVER democrats this election cycle, but Hillary sucked them up in the huge sucking sound of her tasteless campaign where ego was everything and who she "used" turned out to be her paper tiger mallet; THIS is the unquenched feminism???? Wow, the UNMASKING of Hillary supporters has just begun, and no, silly, they are hardly all truly disenfranchised women over 60 years of age making less that the stated 50K

[jpak]

49. Phase 2 of Operation Chaos!!! *Revenge of the Morans*

:rofl:

[candice]

52. Kerry and Daschle asked McCain to be Kerry's VP in 2004--

These two were among the earliest Obama supporters . McCain refused. What has he done in the past four years?

[pdx_prog]

54. I love this line....

"I am one of them bible thumping, gun toting red necks and dam proud of it.Ed"

That pretty much sums this guy up.

Illiterate, uneducated and hopelessly stoooopid...

[Chimichurri]

56. This is just a republican tactic to try and divide the democratic party

Nothing more.

[Catherina]

57. Reagan Democrats? Pretty soon they'll be known as Clinton Democrats

and they'll have no one to blame but themselves.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

61. and you believe this shit?

[eridani]

72. Nope. Most likely Repub psyops n/t

[pointsoflight]

63. Even knowing this?

On July 22, 1998, McCain filled out the National Right to Life Committee's 1998 Congressional Candidate Questionnaire, including this question:
"Do you support the complete reversal of the Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton decisions, thereby allowing the state legislatures and the Congress to once again protect unborn children?"
McCain responded, "Yes."

On August 19, 1999, McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle, "I'd love to see a point where is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade"

On September 12, on NBC's Meet the Press, host Tim Russert read McCain his statement to the San Francisco Chronicle and then asked,
"Would President McCain support the repeal of Roe v. Wade in the short term?"
McCain responded, "I would support the movement in that direction."

Two weeks prior to his appearance on Meet The Press, on August 31, McCain spoke to this issue at a news conference in New Hampshire. McCain said he would "immediately support efforts to move in (the) direction" of banning abortion if he was elected president.

[kdpeters]

66. Whoa!! Did you read that crazy site? Obviously wingnuts and Bushbots.

Just read through even for five minutes and you'll notice how he can't help but betray the dittohead he really is with every sentence and every thought.

You can always tell wingnut moles trying to act like liberals. They don't talk the way we think. They act like the invented wingnutty caricature of liberals that hear about on hate radio but have never actually met one. If you come across an obnoxious person online who acts like that, you've got yourself a wingnut mole.

Don't believe it. These sites weren't started by disaffected Clinton folks. They're right wing freaks.

[klook]

69. As if!

"doctors, lawyers, CPAs, the blue bloods, and...rednecks like me" from Texas...as if more than 10 percent of them would ever vote for any Democrat in the general election!

[trickydix2000]

70. Madness

People can try and justify their actions all the want , the bottom line is they are not ready for change, and I’m not going to play the race card this one is to obvious. I would have expected this group to be from WV or KY I guess TX still has a few turncoats hanging around.

[auburngrad82]

71. The only contribution listed on Opensecrets for him is to Pat LaMarche

She ran for Governor of Maine in 2006.

http://www.pat2006.com/about/

According to Wikipedia she's Green Party...

[dansolo]

73. Someoen should ask this guy who he voted for in the last four elections

Somehow I suspect it wasn't Democrats.

[onenote]

74. exactly:

they claim to be life-long Democrats who care only about defense and foreign policy. We all know who they voted for in 2004. They were stupid then and I doubt there is anything we can do to make them not be stupid now.