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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:57 PM
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SHE BLEW IT
Hillary Clinton had the opportunity tonight to redeem some semblance of dignity by bowing out gracefully and throwing all her weight behind Obama.

She continued to push the flawed logic and math of her popular vote claims. She continued to push the same wedges to divide the party.

She stood smiling as her supporters chanted, "Denver! Denver!". And she said she had not yet decided what to do next.

Well, it is no longer yours to decide. The decision is made.

You are done.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:57 PM
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1. She's decided. She's going to Denver. nt
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:59 PM
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5. What's your source for this information? n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:47 AM
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34. She should go to Hell instead; she find a friendlier reception. (NT)
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:58 PM
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2. She is no longer a Democrat
She has become the enemy of our party.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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DLC IS the enemy of our party.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:48 AM
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35. DLC: "Vote for our pieces of shit but don't expect us to return the favor!" (NT)
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:01 PM
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15. she didn't "become" an enemy
she always has been. It was ALWAYS about Hillary, not the Democratic party.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:58 PM
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3. Clinton-Lieberman-McCain
All the same.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:59 PM
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4. She did justify every bad thing ever said about her
that's something, I guess
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:59 PM
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6. Go run with McCain you fake democrat. Go fuck yourself. YOu will never be VP
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:59 PM
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7. Blackmail. It's a crime, Hillary. Go for it.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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8. And she used the swing-state lie one too many times.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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9. If she thinks this will get her the VP she's dead wrong.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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10. Fitting though isn't it
She blew the whole campaign. She had it all, the money, the name, Bill, the organization and she yet she still lost. More than anything she has lost her dignity and respect that people had for her.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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11. What a fucking lieberman.
:grr:
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:25 PM
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26. Obama's night was stolen. Major rant follows.
Barack Obama just won the Democratic nomination - fair and square. The toughest primary fight in decades, maybe ever.

This should have been his night.

This should have been the night the Democratic Party united behind their first black presidential nominee.

This should have been a night of pure, unadulterated joy.

But nooooooooooo. Clinton and McCain had to bum everyone out with their suckiness.

Perfect!!!!

Especially sad is the fact that Clinton could have been part of the celebration. She could have reached out and endorsed the party's nominee and there be singing and dancing and making merry like Christmas. She could have been a star.

But nooooooooooo!!! She had to let everyone know that she DEMANDS respect, supposedly for her supporters. But we all know who she's really talking about. The same person she always talks about. Herself.

Silly, Hillary. Doesn't she know that you have to give respect to receive it? Doesn't she know that respect is earned not demanded?

I guess not.

Her underlying threat to "Go nuclear?" is flat out blackmail and the victims are us Democrats. She is making us all look like clowns. I, for one, will hold her personally responsible if we do not win back the White House in November. I will never forgive her for it. I will devote my life to make sure she never wins an office higher than dog catcher.


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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:38 AM
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29. I was shocked when watching CNN last night and the talking heads there
began talking about e-mails that were streaming in to them while on air. Many of the e-mails were from Hillary Clinton supporters that were complaining that it should have been "Hillary's night" because she had likely lost the nomination and needed our comfort and time to heal. But instead the damned media were focused on Obama and Obama vs. McCain.

First time a major party nominates an African American for POTUS and it should have been "Hillary's night". I was speechless.

This speaks volumes about the delusional nature of some of these people, and I believe that starts right at the top as evidenced by her refusal to take her last opportunity to bow out with any grace whatsoever and her continued combative and bitter language when she could have easily united the party.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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12. She just screwed herself out of the VP seat, too.
This campaign has been self destructive from Day 1.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:02 PM
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18. That's what I kept thinking.
What a horrible way to show "unity".
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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13. Go Hillary
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:01 PM
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16. Yes, I agree
Go AWAY Hillary.


What is the point of this? Is this part of the nuclear 2012 option?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:52 AM
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37. keep running? Why? What's the point?
Seriously, she's lost. She has no choice but to concede. If she doesn't she's in for some serious humiliation. The Clintons are no longer on top in the party structure. Party leaders will not put up with any shenanigans from Hillary.

Why would you want to see her go through all that?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:00 PM
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14. The party has left HIllary
It's over. I hope Obama does select her as VP
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:01 PM
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17. How can someone so smart act so stupid?
I'm befuddled at this point.

:wtf:

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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:04 PM
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19. I disagree. Hillary knows it's over. She's regrouping, of course,

but I don't think she intends to harm the Dem party.
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:07 PM
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22. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 09:08 PM by ExPatLeftist
This does damage the party, intention or no. She is not thinking of the party, I am convinced.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:07 PM
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23. Her recent history does not show that, but that said, I hope you are right.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:50 AM
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36. Too late! Intent or not, she's done so repeatedly. (NT)
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:05 PM
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20. Still rallying her supporters. "Go to my website and enter your thoughts."
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 09:06 PM by chill_wind
as "I won't be making any decisions tonite."
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:05 PM
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21. She had a chance to say how much she cares about her causes
Instead she showed how much she cares about herself.
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:10 PM
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24. ...And now James "Gollum" Carville is sitting there cackling on CNN
...obviously in on the big "prank" to try to keep the focus on Clinton rather than our nominee.

What is the point of any of this??

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 09:24 PM
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25. There never was any doubt about it, was there?
It was always about Hillary, and it always will be about Hillary in Hillaryland.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:26 PM
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27. Only a few hours ago I wrote a post urging people to understand that Hillary is really not so bad
Hillary was narcissistic, shameless, classless, treacherous.............

Only a few hours ago I wrote a post urging people to understand that Hillary is really not so bad and perhaps she wouldn't be that bad of a V.P.nominee:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6251816&mesg_id=6251816

Her shameful behavior has left me completely speechless
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:28 PM
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28. She has no leverage now. She has simply ratified her pariah status in the party.
She had the chance to do the right thing but couldn't muster the grace.

She's got nothing now.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:41 AM
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30. Yeah and Obama NEVER does that?!?
Give me a frigging break! :eyes:

Does the word 'honesty' even cross Obama campaign workers minds? Lips?
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:20 AM
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31. Sorry, but I prefer logic.
You cannot defend Hillary Clinton by pointing at Obama and yelling, "Yeah, but what about HIM?!?!"

It is logically fallacious and irrelevant.


Last night, Hillary Clinton chose to keep the division going despite the fact that her campaign is over. That was her decision and speaks volumes about HER. It has nothing to do with Obama.


Tell me, do you think she handled the situation well? Will you defend her acts or just try to deflect by pointing at others - warranted or not?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 AM
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38. The countdown clock is running... Shape up or ship out! (NT)
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:23 AM
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32. Why are you bothered? I guess misogyny never goes away in a day.
:sarcasm:
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:37 AM
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33. Oooh, nice one... I was penning a retort in my head...
until I saw the "Sarcasm" tag! :D:D
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