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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:38 AM
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Oh. *sigh* I have stayed out of the GDP pissing contests for good reason.
Most people in here seem to be experiencing their FIRST primary, or election.

Politics is a game of chess, and not checkers. Get used to it

My gawd, we had the riches of candidates in this cycle. Biden, Edwards, Obama, Clinton. Any one of them could tear McSame a new asshole in the GE.

And BTW, most of you are extremely fortunate that the respective candidates make BUSINESS decisions, instead of PERSONAL ones, or one-sided or "one-issue" decisions like I see here.

And BTW, it is customary for the winner to pay the Primary debts of the loser. The $2,300 limit does not apply in that case. Just get over that, it's just a part of doing BUSINESS.

Also, the GE fund is separate from the Primary funds. So your donations so far will not make any difference in the GE anyway.

Now, let's get our butts to work against McSame!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:41 AM
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1. pay off debt when they are double digit figures,plz can you give me a article
so that I can pass it on
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:56 AM
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6. It's just common knowledge, and just a common BUSINESS practice.
I am not going to look up any articles. You need not take my word for it.

But, welcome to politics.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:41 AM
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2. the political ignorance of so many DUers is STAGGERING
:o
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:58 AM
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7. I know.
:(
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:25 AM
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13. You said it! - your bluntness has been growing on me.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:50 AM
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3. Business decisions instead of personal decisions?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 04:51 AM by WillBowden
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:05 AM
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9. They are all about the same on the issue....
And I do not agree.

But I am also not a one-issue voter either.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:11 PM
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17. Nor am I...
Please check out this link from our very own Buffie, the Fundie Slayer: http://gaytheistagenda.lavenderliberal.com/2008/03/03/one-issue-voters/

And to say that they make business decisions, not personal ones, has just been disproven. While they may be the same, all of those decisions are based on personal choices. What's the difference between this and, lets's say, abortion? Does abortion not hold religious implications for them as well? If so, will they seek to deny it based on personal choices?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:52 AM
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4. You have no idea what you're talking about so save it. nt
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:08 AM
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10. Alrighty then!
We'll see ....
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:13 PM
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18. No idea what you're talking about...
If that's the case, please help to educate. Don't just toss that out without informing.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:54 AM
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5. Just to clarify
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 04:56 AM by 4themind
he can't use primary funds to pay off a lions share of that debt according to this article <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/09/obama-suggests-offer-mayb_n_101082.html>
and I'm pretty sure he can't use G.E. money that was originally donated to him to pay it off either (in fact I believe she has to pay off that money before the convention, before which obama doesn't have access to his G.E. money regardless) but I could be wrong ,and I'm open to sourced information on that.
Either way I'm sure he will help her in raising money (maybe hillary's G.E. money that gets returned to the donors can be sent back to this effort I'm not sure)
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:19 AM
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11. If I am mistaken, then I will gladly stand to be corrected and apologize.
But my understanding is that Obama can use PRIMARY funds to pay off Hillary's debts. And even Edwards for that matter.

The GE donations and money falls under a different set of rules.

I tell you what. I'll try to keep track of this thread. If an apology or mea culpa is in order, I will gladly provide you with one.

:hi:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:03 AM
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8. Actually, Obama can't pay her debts
It's against campaign finance laws. What he CAN do, is appeal to his voters to donate to her to help her pay off her debts.
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AlabamaBrightBlueDot Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:49 AM
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12. I would donate to the
'please call it a day and play nice fund' in a heartbeat!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:35 AM
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15. Thanks for inserting the facts into this, casus :-)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:36 AM
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14. You think Hillary's decision to stay in this is a business decision. Horseshit.
It's purely selfish -- for the press and the power.

Your premise that most people here are experiencing their first election is ridiculous. Have you ever glanced at the demographics of DU? Your estimate is off by about 20 to 30 years.

Why is it hard for you to digest that at least one of the candidates has pushed the limits of campaign ethics beyond the boundaries of civility? It's okay with you, and you consider that normal?

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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:55 AM
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16. He can contribute but the $2,000 limit wouldn't help much
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

Authorized Campaign Committee may give $2,000(5) No limit No limit $5,000 No limit

(5) A federal candidate's authorized committee(s) may contribute no more than $2,000 per election to another federal candidate's authorized committee(s). 2 U.S.C. 432(e)(3)(B).
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