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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:24 AM
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Hillary Clinton allowed the woman's movement to be set back light years today
The video coming out, the things said by her supporters, are going to make it that much harder for a woman to run for president, which is sad. Hillary chose to play "poor little me, I'm just a girl trying to play a man's game" when she needed to protray the strong woman that I truely believe she is.


Her advisers she be banned from politics, and she should apologize for having listened to them.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:25 AM
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1. and who's going to get more view on YouTube - crazy lady or Barbara Boxer
asking tough questions in a Senate Foreign Relations or Env. and Pub. Works hearing?

Sigh.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 AM
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2. Hillary set Hillary back
The women's movement will be fine.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:38 AM
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10. Thank you.
I've never bought into this b.s. of "so and so is an embarrassment to women/the women's movement" blather. One woman does not equal all women or a movement.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:12 AM
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13. THAT woman sure doesn't.
:shrug:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:41 AM
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21. amen
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qijackie Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 AM
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3. Bullshit.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:29 AM
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4. Noooooo she did not. Quite the opposite. This is a Pandora's Box opening...
we will be talking about sexism and this campaign quite a lot in the coming years. Guaranteed.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:16 AM
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16. only in the context
of it being a failure as a political rallying point
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:31 AM
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18. I think you live in a bubble...
pandora's box opened a long time ago--it was called the women's right movement. What we've witnessed with this campaign is not about a woman's right, but about a woman thinking she has the "right" to be president because of her name.

I used to really like Hillary, but I am so disappointed in her now, I loathe her.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:29 AM
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5. i'm a woman that supports Obama, and i disagree
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:27 AM
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17. Only weak women support Obama. He's got you in his trance. Go for it girls.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:31 AM
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6. I agree and I don't.
I think she's been the worst thing to happen to the women's movement since Archie Bunker. Like you said, her "poor pitiful me, men are sooooo mean" routine is counter-productive.

By the same token, I think she has helped the future for women in politics and is one, among others, who will help pave the way for the first female President. There may be a few obstacles ahead for female candidates specifically because of Clinton, but they will not be insurmountable.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 AM
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7. I think you have a point. The question is going to be asked if female candidates can play by the
rules or will constantly moving the goalposts be the norm if they start losing? Can their word be trusted or do they have the right to change their minds if things don't go their way? Any future female candidate will have to make clear that she is no Hillary.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:35 AM
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8. I know - male candidates would NEVER do that! What was she thinking???
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:15 AM
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15. Of course male candidates don't do that.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:36 AM
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9. I just don't understand how these folks blame Obama for everything
What did this guy do?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:45 AM
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11. NO .... the woman's movement of the past is in the way of the future
which is inclusive to all people, all races, all genders and all generations.

My daughter in her late twenty's is an example of that change.
She is leading woman of her generation in her work by her inclusion
of all people. Believe me, she is a feminist and leader in her own right as her mother is, but
the torch has been past to a new generation and to a new century.




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:13 AM
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14. Well, no. Real movement women were instrumental in imagining
social justice that was inclusive. These wackos who have co-opted some of the language of the women's movement really have nothing to do with the through line.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:08 AM
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12. Agreed. When she holds everyone hostage to her feelings, and essentially throws the china...
...it doesn't help women at all. She's been a terrible role model.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:38 AM
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19. I think that a woman president is just as likely especially if vp, just most likely not Hillary.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:40 AM
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20. I've been saying that for months
:(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:43 AM
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22. I think women will be judged independently
and this will help keep us from being stereotyped. Some sensible woman will step out, who can strategize while maintaining a sense of humor about herself, and then everybody will know why Hillary was not the one.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:44 AM
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23. Clinton chose all the wrong people to run her campaign. They did her a terrible disservice.
And its a shame because Hillary Clinton could have been been a representative we could all be proud of during this primary. Instead, this process has severely tarnished her reputation.
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amelia Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:47 AM
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24. Oh for God's sake, get real! She broke more glass than any other female so far to date in the US
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