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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:55 PM
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Look, I know a lot of us are pissed at the Clinton supporters today.
I certainly am. Their behavior at the RBC was immature and asinine. But some of the thread titles posts I'm seeing on GD-P are disgusting. I know there is a video of a woman making a racist comment. That is inexcusable. But so is lowering yourself to that level by calling her an "old hag" or "bitch" or some other gender-loaded insult. We all have mothers, aunts, and grandmothers that we wouldn't appreciate being described like that.


Take a breath, step away, and make some calls for Obama or send him a donation. We are better than this.*




*I realize that I'm not always the most tactful member of DU, and I have the deleted posts to prove it, but there are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed.







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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:56 PM
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1. Thank you. I so agree. K&R!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:59 PM
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2. "Bitch" is not a sexist insult; it's just an insult.
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:00 PM by AZBlue
And it's appropriate for that woman in the video.
I'll agree though that we could all play a bit nicer at times (myself included).
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:26 PM
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6. Do you use that word towards your mother, sister, cousin, friend?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:50 PM
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18. Yep. My brother, too.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:07 PM
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36. How sad.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:11 PM
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38. Used it on my sister once--now I'm blind in one eye.
I don't talk much anymore. :)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:34 PM
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7. LOL - feel the unity - many are angry with Obama supporters - but they may no longer be in party
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:41 PM
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11. It Is Originally And Primarly A Sexist Insult
A female dog, when applied to a human. And that hasn't changed just because you decree it so or because it's use has become more fluid, for example, in the same way a promiscuous man would jokingly be called a "ho." Nobody would let you get off the hook suggesting that the "N word" is now a poli-racial insult, either, for stereotypical set of behaviors. Inappropriate remains inappropriate.

Find another insulting name for the woman in the video that doesn't have a history rooted in bigotry and bias.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:50 PM
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17. it is no different than 'nigger.' do you think sometimes black people 'deserve' to be called nigger?
just asking.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:51 PM
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19. Hmm...I would have to disagree but thanks for outing yourself as a racist!!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:14 PM
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34. Nonsense.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:09 PM
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37. Ummm yes it is different
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:32 PM
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41. And this is why we have so much to learn about sexist archetypes and language.
There was a time in America when firing a woman for getting pregnant wasn't questioned, either.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:08 PM
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3. Thanks for this, burgler.
:hi:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:11 PM
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4. thanks for the reminder. point taken. ~nt~
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:14 PM
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5. Thank you.
I agree. Thankfully I missed most of the video, and I won't be seeking it out. Letting the fringe supporters get to us like that does nothing but widen the divide between us and the rational supporters, because too many people start pulling out that broad brush in reaction.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:35 PM
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8. I can be vile, too, but I'm totally against sexist, misogynist language. n/t
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:36 PM
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9. My mother and aunts wouldn't act so ridiculously hysterical like that
Nor would my grandmothers, God rest their souls. Well.... one grandma liked to yell at her soap operas on occasion, but that was as angry as she got.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:39 PM
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10. Hi Catburgler. :)
Happy to bump your post.
:)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:42 PM
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12. Ohh, pet peeve here. We don't bump posts here, we kick threads.
After all, we're democrats and donkeys never bump they kick. We've even got a smilie for it :kick:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:44 PM
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14. I kick, I bump....whatever works.
:)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:43 PM
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13. Yeah, but my mom isn't a hag.
That woman in the video is.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:49 PM
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16. No, she's not. She's angry right now and clearly has some issues around race.
But there's no need to denigrate all women to express your disapproval of one.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:59 PM
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27. I'm not denigrating all women.
I'm denigrating this one as a hag.

That has nothing to do with my mom or you or any other women.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:49 PM
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15. a lot of O-ists think it's okay to use the b-word.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:54 PM
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21. I've definitely seen lots of female O-ists do that. I agree.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:55 PM
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23. Even my mom calls Hillary a bitch...
It's the best way to describe her. If she had a penis, I'd call her a basterd.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:04 PM
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28. and a lot of H-ists want to use the n word but know better here. they
save it for the other sites.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:27 PM
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39. A lot of Hillary supporters think it's okay to trash Michelle Obama. What of it? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:53 PM
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20. Except Huffman.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:55 PM
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22. I'm not an O-Ist
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:55 PM by JustAnotherGen
I'm still holding out for Edwards! LOL :-)

I'm also saying this as a woman - a bi-racial womam (like Obama).


That woman in the video is nucking futs and we all know it. I was angry when Edwards lost, I was angry when Kerry/Edwards were cheated out of Ohio and I was disgusted when the Supreme Court awarded Bush and Co the White House.

I challenge anyone to find a video of me anywhere calling Bush an Inadequate White Male or Clinton an Inadequate White Female or Barack and Inadequate Black Male.


Dear Lord - I hope Obama picks a female running mate so he can flip the wingnut the bird.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:56 PM
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24. You are right. I am an Obama supporter, and I am sure that there are times that my anger has come
through my keyboard, but I never use the word "Bitch" and in fact I don't even like people referring to Hillary's pantsuits.

It's uncalled for and adds nothing to a construct criticism. But people will be people, but let's try to keep it civil.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:58 PM
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25. Keeping cool here....respect even when others are unable.....n/t
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:58 PM
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26. I wasn't pissed...
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:59 PM by Lady-Damai
That type of behavior is quite typical from Clinton supporters. Nothing new...:boring:

They will only get worse.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:06 PM
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29. And her supporters are democrats.
Wait til the republicans let loose. Oh, it is going to be ugly!
:scared:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:07 PM
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30. No more so than any other day
Obama supporters need to accept the reality that they've burned their bridges with a lot of their fellow Dems a long time ago.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:17 PM
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35. Who started the unity thread about Edwards at the beginning of the month?
I did.

And got flamed for it - by Hillary supporters!!!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:11 PM
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31. That is why I have referred to the crazies simply as
choadslaps.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:12 PM
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32. Whatever!
Edited on Sat May-31-08 09:13 PM by Major Hogwash
If someone goes out of their way to be a total ass in public, we are supposed to find a reason NOT to criticize or we risk being criticized at DU for it, huh?

Don't ever tell me to "take a breath and step away . . "
It won't work, but even worse that that, it makes you look bad.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:28 PM
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40. You can criticize someone's behavior. It doesn't necessitate a misogynistic slur. nt
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:12 PM
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33. I will support the Democratic nominee, but honestly, I am embarrassed for your party if
this is how you really are when it comes right down to the end. Too bad for the Democrats that this is how you are being seen.

Now, let's get on with the election.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 AM
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42. It's funny- all these people who haven't been pissed before are furious. I'm not angry
and I've been FURIOUS for months now.

But it's over now. What's done is done. Hillary's "protest" was a sad little farce. I expected much worse. I don't have any fury in me right now. What was anyone expecting today?

It's strange to feel on the very low end of anger around here.
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