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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:02 PM
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Wes Clark response to Cheney's attack on Kerry
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=165-08122004

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"Today, Dick Cheney took the lowest road in politics -- it was a cheap shot unworthy of the office of Vice President.

"The truth is that this administration has over-relied on the military in the war against terror - if we are to win, we must use all the means at our disposal - diplomacy, international law, economic development, law enforcement, and only as a last resort, military force.

"But then, maybe that's to be expected. Neither George Bush nor Dick Cheney has ever heard a shot fired in anger. Never worried whether he'd ever see his family again or seen the destruction caused by the weapons he's wielded. The losses of war are permanent. The consequences are unpredictable. That's why John Kerry has always said force should be a last resort.

"John Kerry understands the risk and sacrifice that American soldiers undertake every day, in a personal way that neither George Bush nor Dick Cheney ever will. John Kerry has the physical courage, tested in combat, to hunt down and kill our enemies. He also has the moral courage and humility to avoid the arrogance, which has doomed this administration. John Kerry will make us safer at home and restore our credibility around the world."

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Taylor Mason Powell Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:03 PM
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1. TMP's reaction to Wes Clark's Response to Cheney's attack on Kerry:
You GO Wes!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:03 PM
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2. The Man!! n/t
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:22 PM
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17. Where IS Wes?
Shouldn't Kerry be using him more prominently?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:29 PM
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22. He let cheney have it, big time!
WASHINGTON, Aug. 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- General Wesley Clark, USA (ret) released the following statement today in response to Vice President Dick Cheney's attacks on John Kerry:

"I spent almost all of my adult life in uniform serving this great nation in the United States Army. I have led American soldiers into battle and led an international coalition in the Balkans where diplomacy, backed by force, was the winning formula.

"George W. Bush failed to learn the lessons from his predecessor or history. His ideologues who control American foreign policy have squandered much of our credibility with our allies and failed to achieve victory in the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. They gambled with a go it alone policy and our soldiers are paying with their lives.

"Today we Americans are shouldering the overwhelming costs of rebuilding Iraq without sufficient help from our allies. The administration's incompetence in protecting our security effectively is rightfully a key issue in this campaign.

"Today, Dick Cheney took the lowest road in politics -- it was a cheap shot unworthy of the office of Vice President."

more:http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=165-08122004

my favorite:

"But then, maybe that's to be expected. Neither George Bush nor Dick Cheney has ever heard a shot fired in anger. Never worried whether he'd ever see his family again or seen the destruction caused by the weapons he's wielded. The losses of war are permanent. The consequences are unpredictable. That's why John Kerry has always said force should be a last resort."

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:44 PM
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25. I would like to see Wes on the talk shows & in rallies around the country.
I think he's a "secret weapon." He attracts fence-sitters and disaffected Republicans. He's charismatic and intelligent. He is career military and knows what he's talking about when it comes to war, as well as foreign policy, economics and other issues. He's a straight-up good guy, and we should be using him more.

What do you think?
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:51 PM
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26. Hey, you're talking to a (mostly) bunch of Clarkies here

Hell, yes- we want him everywhere!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:03 PM
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3. Woohoo! Go Wes Go! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:04 PM
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4. Fantastic reply from Wes Clark
to the cheney gang.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:05 PM
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5. We are so lucky to have him
What a man of substance.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:07 PM
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6. Thank you, Wes. Thank you! Giving a donation to Wespac NOW!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:07 PM
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7. Wes Clark is magnificent!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:11 PM
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10. Wes Clarke- Sec. of Defense
or ?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:40 PM
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38. for the 9999th time, Clark is not eligible for Sec of Defense yet
And, Holbrooke would likely be in line for Sec of State.

Clark is just too smart & too good to keep out of a potential Kerry Admin. If he is not Sec of State, maybe NSA (if that doesn't go to Beers?)

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Tardisian Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:09 PM
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8. Wes Clark
for Secretary of State
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Tardisian Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:16 PM
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13. Sorry...Disturbed is correct:
Secretary of Defense
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:19 PM
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15. <sigh> Do I have to tell him - or will somebody else?
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 07:19 PM by DancingBear
Oh, OK... :) :)

Wes can't be SoD - has not been out of the active military long enough.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:21 PM
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16. I thought a DUer pointed out a while ago that this can be waived?
Forget the details, but mentioned that it has been done at least once before?
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:23 PM
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19. Did we ever decide on that?

I remember the thread, but can't remember if any follow up was done on it.

If so, and he can be, well.... Hot dog!!!!!!!!!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:04 PM
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40. Why should everyone
be trying to angle Clark for a position that he does not qualify for? Does he really deserve this kind of treatment? Why in God's sake do people want to recommend this wonderful man for a position that would require an Act of Congress.

I say, Wes Clark for Secretary of State.

Don't know what Holbrooke has done that makes him so deserving of the position.

Is Holbrooke "all That?" I don't think so.

Wes Clark is "All That" and more. The man is a gift.....Like Michael Moore has said!

We have got to get rid of the DNC.....they really are blowing this election.

And by the Way, where is "Attack Dog" Edwards anyway?
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:09 PM
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9. CNN just played the clip again
in its entirety...Cheney begins with "John Kerry says that if he were president he would fight a "more sensisitive" war on terror."

And people in the audience laughed.

It made me sick. These are the people that think you can split the world into good and evil, that good is us, bad is them, and we will kill all of them and the problem will go away. These people think "Kill them all, let God sort them out" is sound foreign policy.

Sigh.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:14 PM
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12. The good news
We won't have to worry what they think after November.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:13 PM
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11. Are Wes' remarks getting media (TV) coverage?

If not, while it a great response and typical of Wes it won't help much.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:17 PM
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14. Yeah right! When he was RUNNING for President..
..he barely got coverage!

John O'Neill's the man of the hour, don'tcha remember?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:51 PM
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41. He's on MSNBC Scarboy Country tonight, with Pat Buchanan subbing.
Typically, Wes was brilliant, and had Pat eating respectfully out of his hand. Clark made every point in this press release, and more. On Iraq, Clark rules anyone who converses with him.

Worth catching on reruns later tonight (tomorrow?).
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:22 PM
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18. I love Wes Clark
He is truly a patriot.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:27 PM
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20. Wesley Clark rules.
Can't say much more than that.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:29 PM
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21. Wes Clark Simply Rocks!
I love this guy!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:30 PM
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23. Wes Clark rocks!
I am grateful that he has spoken up against those evil filth.

Go Wes, you are a champion of justice.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:35 PM
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24. Wow, that IS a great response
First time I've ever heard a politician talk about using economic development as a way to fight terror. He is SO damn right about that!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:56 PM
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27. Why is it/ Everyone a shoot back but Edwards?
Where is he at.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:01 PM
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28. God I miss Wes
I have copied 9 out of 10 of his speeches, I am running out of storage room. That man has got to be in the administration and where is Edwards response, he should be able to come up with a pretty good zinger himself.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:08 PM
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30. Edwards is taking the week off....he's been home all week.
Wes Clark is Kerry's WMD!!! Gawd I wish he was on the ticket!!!!
:kick:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:03 PM
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29. Why don't you just SMACK HIM DOWN, General?
:evilgrin:
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:16 PM
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31. I still believe Kerry made a bad decision...
if Wes was on the ticket, those Swift Vet crappers & others would be toast....
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:19 PM
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32. Wes Clark has more class in his fingernail
than Cheney has in his WHOLE pacemaker/defib combo!

Just goes to show how skeered the NEOCONs are, get'em WES!! I am so sick of this harsh daddy routine from DickHead Cheney. We don't need no father govt., thank you.


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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:29 PM
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33. That's my man!
WTG, Wes! Tellin' it like it is, ALWAYS!
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:31 PM
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34. I hate to say I told you so....but this election is and will be about...
"The War on Terrorism" and what kind of leaders we need in these disturbed times.

Wes Clark is the right man for the times.

I am so frustrated that he's not on the ticket and I am dismayed with the party that they didn't see the writing on the wall.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:47 PM
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39. I feel your pain, familydoctor.
If only. :cry: He was perfect. Is perfect. IMCPO
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:32 PM
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35. Rock on Mr. Clark!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:32 PM
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36. Wes Clark rocks.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:32 PM
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37. WTG!! I am so happy I had a chance to vote for this man. n/t
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:02 PM
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42. Clark is the shiznit.
His speech at the convention was quite simply amazing!

He had me so pumped up I didn't sleep that night.

And I, like most here, so wish he was on the ticket, though I do like Edwards.

But Wes is someone who can rally and inspire, at least for me, like no other.

And his credibility is through the roof.

Ahh well, I don't think he is going anywhere.

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keyzersoze13 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 11:31 PM
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43. General Clark
Man, is General Clark awesome, or what. I would love to see him getting the kind of exposure Dean is getting, but he's playing it his way, and that's what I've always like about him.
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