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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:57 PM
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Challenge for Hillary supporters: how can she win?
Please state a scenario where Hillary secures the nomination.

Thanks.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:58 PM
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1. Well...in 1968 we had a situation...
Oh! I DID NOT go there....

SHE did!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:58 PM
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2. Well...
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:59 PM
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3. from youtube
not a __________roll, I swear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zail7Gdqro
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:00 PM
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4. are you going to her campaign event on January 22, 2009?
She might pull ahead in the polls by then.

:D
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:06 PM
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11. You know I'll be there
Good opportunities for heckling come so rarely.... :P
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:03 PM
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5. I know that she is not going to win.
But I am still supporting her until she drops out.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:05 PM
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8. Umm, what if she doesn't drop out after next Tuesday?
Will you say she has a right to take it to the Convention?

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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:09 PM
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12. I think she will drop out in June.
If she does not I will consider not supporting her. I will always adore her.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:11 PM
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17. She will suspend her campaign - it is the standard practice rather than "dropping out"
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:05 PM
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9. Understandable.
I certainly would have supported John Edwards until he conceded and same goes for Barack.

Thanks for the honesty
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:06 PM
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10. Well... I Hope You'll Come Around to Helping the Dems Win the GE
the sooner the better
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:10 PM
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15. I will vote for Obama in the GE.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:14 PM
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23. You're here, you're queer...and don't fear! Obama supports gay rights! n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:12 PM
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19. Will Hill as VP time & money for Obama is guaranteed - otherwise perhaps a vote
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:04 PM
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6. Easy...
It's happened before...about 1860: The states that Obama won could succeed from the Union and form their own country
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:04 PM
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7. not the candidate with a 30.06 slug in his skull, according to Hillary.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:09 PM
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13. The Republicans DO have a video of Michelle Obama hating on whitey!
They do! They do! And when they release it, 2000 superdelegates are going to see the error of their ways and they'll all want to join Clinton's gang. Just you wait!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 05:18 PM
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28. OMG11!! OMG!!!! OMG1!!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:09 PM
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14. I'll go with a meteor, Alex.
For $2209.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:10 PM
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16. She throws her bookbags at the super d's and yells "do overs".
Enough already.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:11 PM
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18. I voted for and support Obama but my understanding is that
Clinton could still win if:

1. The RBC seats Florida/Michigan as is. The new winning number becomes 2209.

2. She wins 50 of the remaining 86 caucus/primary delegates and her total is then 2022.

3. She gets the vote of 187 of the 303 remaining delegates (230 supers, 55 Michigan uncommitted, 18 Edwards)That would put her at 2209 and make her the nominee.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:25 PM
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25. More than half of those Edwards delegates have already come out for Obama
And how in the world would she ever get the MI uncommitted delegates? If folks had wanted to vote for Hillary, they could have. She was the only name on the ballot. The folks who voted "Uncommitted" definitely wanted someone other than Clinton.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:47 PM
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26. The numbers are from Demconwatch and I believe they already
include the Edwards delegates who are supporting Obama in with Obama's numbers.

As for Michigan uncommitted, the concern is that many of the delegates who were actually selected for the "uncommitted" slots are Clinton loyalists.




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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:12 PM
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20. A******n****n.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:13 PM
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21. The Rapture?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:13 PM
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22. There are some very possible scenarios listed above.
Edited on Tue May-27-08 03:14 PM by geckosfeet
Look at this way - if McLaim dropped off the face of the earth or the NV sent his POW dossier to the NYT, the pukes would be scramblin to find a candidate.

Clinton is there just in case.

On edit - swapped below for above.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:16 PM
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24. This is her only chance right now that ain't gonna happen.
Michigan and Florida are 100% seated as per Hillary's wishes, but she still doesn't win in pledged delegates. So, with the MI popular votes unfairly edging her into the lead of Obama's popular vote, she declares victory and the superdelegates flock to her. :rofl: Ridiculous I know!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:03 PM
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27. A "Catastrophic Event"..
Edited on Tue May-27-08 04:04 PM by stillcool47
Hillary's hope...the sky will open, the light will come down, a lightening bolt will strike Senator Obama, and the celestial choirs will be singing my name.


Interview with Clinton: One Day at a Time
Thursday, Mar. 06, 2008
TIME: Can you envision a point at which--if the race stays this close--Democratic Party elders would step in and say, "This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall"?

CLINTON: No, I really can't. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1719900,00.htm


Clinton campaign on ropes

BY JOHN GUERRIERO
Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary
given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437


Sun May 11, 2008
Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest


CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination
May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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