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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:19 AM
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Hillary: She needs to come clean AGAIN.
Was Hillary dreaming in " Bosnia-under-fire " technicolor when she tried to explain away her gaff about why she mentioned RFK, June and assassination all in one breath? What bothers me is that she lays these intentional lies on the people with such coolness and ease, never raising her pulse rate past resting.....and she always has a dozzy of a retort-comeback to offer us wide-eyed minions if she gets caught trying to squeeze through another lie.


This past Friday, during a meeting with a newspaper editorial board, I was asked about whether I was going to continue in the presidential race.

I made clear that I was - and that I thought the urgency to end the 2008 primary process was unprecedented. I pointed out, as I have before, that both my husband's primary campaign, and Sen. Robert Kennedy's, had continued into June.

Almost immediately, some took my comments entirely out of context and interpreted them to mean something completely different - and completely unthinkable.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/05/25/2008-05-25_hillary_why_i_continue_to_run.html



On Meet the Press, presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin made this point:

Well, neither historical parallel that she offered were true, because Clinton had already sewed up the nomination by June, and in Bobby Kennedy’s case, he’d only gotten into the race like six weeks prior to his assassination.


And this excerpt taken from a quote from President Bill Clinton's 2004 memoirs, My Life also adds to her deception:

" On April 7, we also won in Kansas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. On April 9, Paul Tsongas announced that he would not reenter the race. The fight for the nomination was effectively over.

From what I gather from Bill's own words, he said that the fight was effectively over by April 9th so how can Hillary try to stake a claim to the fact that Bill took the nomination battle into June?










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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:22 AM
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1. Yeah, only this time she needs to come
really clean. One of those firehose showers.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:30 AM
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2. I'm still not sure or understand how she feels she can continue to feed voters a steady diet of
lies and distortions of truth or facts and then have her husband back her up with more of HIS brand of slick double-talk betting that the voting public won't have a clue anyway as to what the truth really is.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:32 AM
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3. Their key to lies is the m$$$fm back them up with
making sure hilary has stayed in even though there's no chance she could ever catch up.

So, it's not just the clinton machine and all their dirty bottom of deck..it's the mainstreammediawhores who brought us bush and the War ON Iraq.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:34 AM
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4. Agreed.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:50 AM
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9. Her stepford zombie worshippers eat every nugget of shit
that tumbles from the goddess of peace's mouth like it was chocolate covered. The rest of us know better.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:53 AM
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12. I'm thinking something more like a full body scrub down from the guys in the contamination suits.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:37 AM
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5. "effectively over"
isn't over.

He didn't secure the nomination until June, after the California primary.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:46 AM
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6. I know that the nomination wasn't secured until June but the nature of her intent was to leave the
voting public with the impression that her husband's primary campaign was an active dogfight for the democratic nomination going deep into June when in fact it was over by the first week of April. On her part, it was a deceptive way of excusing her " assassination " commentary and justifying its usage.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:54 AM
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7. This must be another exercise in the meaning of "is".
Bill Clinton thought it was over in April. Apparently Hillary doesn't share his reality.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:56 AM
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8. Wrong.
He didn't secure the nomination until the convention, if you want to be technical about it. He had >3000 delegates in June before the California primary. There was no way that the results in June would have altered the outcome.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:50 AM
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11. A win by Brown in California
could've denied clinton the delegates he needed to secure the nomination.

It wasn't until June that he became the "presumptive nominee", if you will, by locking up enough delegates to win the nomination.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:37 AM
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10. HUBRIS. The way she worked Sen. Obama's "bitter" and "clinging to guns and
religion" remarks were disgusting. Yet, she mis-represents the June primaries she was referring to, adds insult to injury by mentioning the dreadful word "assassination" in the context of why she's still in the race; lies about Sen. Obama's campaign trying to push her out; turns around and somehow tries to blame his campaign and the media for dwelling on what she said; offers a half-assed apology to the Kennedy family a few days after the terrible news regarding Sen. Ted Kennedy's health, and a few days before the anniversary of RFK's assassination, refuses to give Sen. Obama a half-assed apology and expects people to feel she is the injured party in all of this. It's beyond believability!

She is the epitome of HUBRIS!
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