Today Terry McAulliffe said Hillary didn't apologize to Obama nor SHOULD she!

[jenmito]

Her statement had NOTHING to do with Obama according to him. (Really? She was referencing why she should stay in the race against OBAMA). Chris Wallace asked, being that so many people were offended, wouldn't it makes sense that she call Obama and say she's sorry if it caused him any "heartburn"? He said nobody was offended and RFK Jr. wasn't offended so nobody should be. Chris said lots of people were offended, including Hillary supporter Charlie Rangle who said it was one of the dumbest remarks he ever heard and McAuliffe just said he's entitled to his opinion.

Then he went on to claim, again, that Hillary's ahead in the popular vote and that they're very close in the delegate count. Later he said she WILL be ahead in the popular vote after Puerto Rico.

Every word out of McAuliffe's mouth contradicted the word before it.

[Swamp Rat]

1. Such hubris

[jenmito]

3. And NO shame. He also blamed OBAMA for being "irresponsible" for "fanning the flames" and

taking her words "out of context." :eyes:

[Swamp Rat]

7. Of course, he is a lying asshole idiot who, it seems, blew his mind out using cocaine

[Genevieve]

2. Hillary is irrelevant..eom

[jenmito]

4. I wish SHE knew that!

[Genevieve]

44. So do I

But if you tell yourself that she is (irrelevant)
every time she opens her mouth and more garbage comes out of it,
it won't bother you any more.

[jenmito]

58. Good point.

I'll try. :hi:

[Genevieve]

68. It's working

for me.
She already lost, so I won't let her extremely annoying presence bother me any more! :hi:

[jenmito]

79. Well,

thanks for giving me hope. I know, deep down, she already lost. I just have to stop letting her get to me! :hi:

[anigbrowl]

5. Thanks for clearing that up, DJ Terry.

[rsmith6621]

6. Fucker Went On FOX

....That campaign continues to show their true RED colors.....FOX spent 8 years trying to destroy Clinton's White House and McAuliffe is willing to give up principle over a FREE ADVERTISEMENT for their FAILED attempt at the White House again....


Anyone associated with the Clinton's are just a bunch of ASS-Hats that only looking out for their own self interest.


HYPOCRITES

[jenmito]

12. Of course. And once again he PRAISED Faux for being "fair and balanced"

unlike any other cable news channel. :eyes:

[Raine]

18. Fox, that figures

but their chumminess sure has a bad smell about it. x(

[gateley]

20. It's kind of like FOX is their mouthpiece now --

like the Washington Times and the Moonies.

[Individualist]

52. DLC loves Faux and vice versa

Some day even the most dense of Democratic voters will figure out DLC's agenda.

[MindMatter]

62. They didn't actually have an "agenda" per se

Their driving purpose was to play along with the fascists and get some of the spoils. Worked like a champ. $105.000.0000 in speaking fees in 5 years. Not bad. Not bad at all.

But as far as having an agenda for what to do with any power they got? They never had that agenda. I guess the whole point of being a "new democrat" is to be a Republican, so they simply went along with the GOP agenda.

[RazBerryBeret]

8. just like Bush wasn't talking about Obama

when he reference Nazi appeasement.

not buying it..

[jenmito]

19. Exactly.

And I can't wait 'til that cool guy in your avatar is PRESIDENT!

[jespwrs]

9. Lying sack of

SHIT. Terry is a lying sack of shit, and is Hillary's number one bitch.

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[genna]

23. That is pretty low and offensive

:thumbsdown:
:spray:

Is that man eater stuff?

Wow?

I've been shocked at the number of ways men can go after HRC. This is the most repugnant piece of commentary I've read.

As an Obama supporter, I've read and said some questionable things but WOW!

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[scarletwoman]

32. What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you posting such vile misogynist crap?

Pull your head out of your ass.

And just so you know, I think Hillary Clinton is a nasty, lying narcissist and I want her and her husband and the whole damn DLC GONE from the Democratic party.

I will NOT put up with that kind of foul anti-woman venom being directed at ANY woman -- even Hillary Clinton.

sw

[greguganus]

39. Her gender means nothing to me. If she was a man I would attack him just the same.

She can redeem herself. She can apologize.
How many war dead can redeem themselves or apologize for things they have done or said to loved ones in their past? NONE!
How many loved ones of the dead soldiers can say they are sorry for things they have said or done to these dead? NONE!
Alert and put me on ignore. I don't give a shit.

[jenmito]

21. I don't even want him on Obama's side once he's the nominee. He'd be a better fit for McCain.

:eyes:

[frazzled]

10. It's the George Bush modus operandi

Never admit you were wrong. Never say you're sorry. Ignore facts. Keep pushing the single narrative.

I don't recall Democrats behaving like this (to this extent before). It has nothing to do with ideology, principles, or policy. It's a style thang. To project strength, you stick to your narrative, no matter how counterfactual, offensive, or illogical. Sheesh.

[jenmito]

22. Exactly. Copying the Repub. playbook. n/t

[gateley]

11. I don't think she APOLOGIZED at all --

what she said was

"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and particularly to the Kennedy family, was in any way offensive, I certainly had not intention of that whatsoever."

Doesn't sound like an "I'm sorry" to me, but rather almost putting the onus on those of us who "misunderstood" her.

I took that verbatim from this Olbermann video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9VEeZ1CL50

[jenmito]

17. She DIDN'T apologize. Even Chris Wallace called him on the "IF anyone was offended..."

The Clinton camp HAS NO SHAME.

[Raine]

24. Nope she didn't, any "apology" that contains the words *IF* or

*BUT* is NOT an apology...it's an insult to the wronged. :argh:

Edit: spelling

[genna]

13. Red meat to those lone wolves.

Wolfson backed him up on Face the Nation.
:puke:

Bob Schieffer was SHOCKED.

:think:
:argh:

I was shocked too.
:wtf:


They are shameless, moral reprobates.
:wow:


I keep telling myself you can't shoot the messenger. You have to look behind the spokesperson and go after the candidate for this.

[City Lights]

15. Their arrogance and their lies know no bounds.

:thumbsdown: to their freak show.

[cbc5g]

16. We cant have these FAUX lovers in the party

God damn traitors

Theres a REASON why dems decided to have no debates with Fox hosting

[cboy4]

25. Obama fans think everything that comes out of Hillary's

mouth must be related to their candidate.

Classic case of insecurity.

[jenmito]

28. How could that NOT have been related to Obama? There's only one other person in this race and she

was talking about why she should stay in this race against OBAMA.

[cboy4]

33. The inference was inappropriate....if she owes a personal

apology, she does not owe it to Obama....she owes it to the Kennedy family.

[jenmito]

51. Wrong. She DOES owe an apology to Obama since she was justifying her

staying in the race just in case Obama gets assassinated!

[jsmirman]

42. Yes, this is a classic "you're so vain" moment

except for the fact that THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THE SONG CAN BE ABOUT right now.

:argh:


so incredibly weak.

[JerseygirlCT]

71. And who is she running against? nt

[mucifer]

26. wow seems like she doesn't want the African American vote

[jenmito]

29. She must know she's not going to win the nomination. Otherwise she wouldn't be saying things

like that.

[Max_powers94]

30. WOW..I don't know what to say but..

[jenmito]

31. That sums it up perfectly!

Thanks! :hi:

[slinkerwink]

34. When I was talking about the Hindenberg, I clearly was talking about the hydrogen gas.

[1776Forever]

35. Sick - Just plain sick! Why don't they all start their own Party? The are NOT Dem's!

:rant:

[hendo]

36. Terry should shut up and go away.

Hopefully this stupidity will ruin his political career like Hillary is ruining her own.

[nichomachus]

40. This is why they're so desperate

At this point, if Hillary doesn't win, they are all political goners -- Hillary, Bill, Terry, From, Ford, and all the other DLCers.

This is why she's hanging in. It's do or fail totally.

It's like the seventh game of the World Series. There is no tomorrow for them.

[hendo]

49. If only she would have played smart

She could have had a career to salvage after all of this.

It sucks to be her, but she only has herself to blame. If she was honest to herself that is.

[Skip Intro]

37. She has no reason to aplogize to Obama. Her statement had nothing to do with Obama.

She was making a point about primary campaigns running into June and beyond.

Skinner sees that. The AL editorial board sees that. RFK Jr. sees that. Why can't the Obama attack dogs here and elswhere see that?

[mucifer]

38. Why is Hillary Clinton so insensitive to the black community??

[Skip Intro]

41. ?

wtf?

[nichomachus]

43. Bull - freaking - shit

Then, why didn't she just say "The 1968 campaign went right up to the convention?" That would have made the point -- what did the assassination have to do with it?

This is just bullshit spinning by the HDL -- Hillary Defense League, which has been in overdrive since she started her wretched campaign.

I swear, if she went on national television and beat a crippled kid to death with a bag full of newborn puppies, the Hillarybots would be out here telling us why it was no big deal.

They are getting as annoying as Bush's 28 percenters.

[Skip Intro]

45. Plucking something from context and twisting it's meaning does not make it so.

[nichomachus]

46. Have another Kool-Aid -- it's good for you

[Skip Intro]

47. Expert advice?

[nichomachus]

48. I know a lot of Hillbots -- I see the Kool-Aid stains on their upper lips

[MindMatter]

64. Why don't you have these morons on "ignore" already.

They add nothing to the conversation. They add nothing to the Party.

I didn't see those comments, but I'm sure they were chock-full of brilliant insight.

[moobu2]

50. Exactly

[jenmito]

55. Exactly NOT. Obama is her "opposition." She's staying in this race in case something "happens to"

her "opposition" like what happened to Kennedy. Why didn't she just say she's staying in the race because there have been several times that the primary went into June-like '76, '80, '84, or '92? WHY mention "assassination" when she's running against someone who has very real fear of being assassinated???

[Skip Intro]

60. I'm sorry man, but thatt's just bullshit.

She was clearly making reference to the fact that contests have run into June and beyond, that is the reason she immedaitely followed the JFK example with Bill Clinton's wrapping up the nom in June.

It wasn't smart, I wish she hadn't done it, but she clearly didn't mean it in the way you say.

As I said upthread, Skinner, the AL editorial board, JFK Jr. all see that.

[jenmito]

65. I'M sorry miss, but THAT'S just bullshit.

Kennedy just got INTO the race 6 weeks before he was assassinated and Bill Clinton wrapped up the nomination in April, so NEITHER "historical reference" was accurate (as I learned through Doris Kearns-Goodwin today on MTP.)

I couldn't care less that some people see it differently. Hillary's surrogates have DIRECTLY linked Kennedy's assassination with a possible killing of Obama. If Hillary REALLY wanted to reference FACTS of contests comparable to this one, she could've mentioned '76, '80, and '84.

[Skip Intro]

73. If she had referenced 80, the outrage would be at the same fevered pitch.

People see what they want to see. I guess. That applies to me as well, sure. But the fact that JFK's son, the newspaper editorial board that was there for the comment, and our own Skinner see it the way I do, well, I'll consider that a validation of the way I see it.

[jenmito]

81. Bull. She knows the WORD "assassination" evokes thoughts of OBAMA being

killed but she used the word anyway. I couldn't care less what those people think. The one who has his life on the line, the one she's running against, the one she's staying in the race against, is OBAMA. Not RFK JR, not the editorial board, and not Skinner.

[newmajority]

67. Bullshit, and here's why.

1) California DID change the 68 race. Bobby Kennedy would have been President had he not been murdered that night.

2) California COULD have changed the game in 1992, BUT Bill Clinton had the nomination secured even before then, so 92 was irrelevant.

3) California had an early primary this year, part of the deliberate machination toward a Hillary coronation, which thankfully FAILED. There are no states which can change the game for Hillary now, and SHE FUCKING KNOWS IT.

So why is she still pretending to run? Because, as she said, and as that fucking tool McUseless has now said twice, "something could happen". And that something is NOT Hillary having more delegates, because that is mathematically impossible. So what is it??

[Skip Intro]

74. You are taking words, transforming them into code words, and then interpreting them with a bias.

And you have plenty of company.

[newmajority]

76. Code words, my shiny metal ass!

there's nothing at all "encoded" in what I said. But if you insist, let me condense it down to something even the voters of West Virginia and Kentucky could understand.....

Any chance of the primary picture changing in June, by any LEGITIMATE means, simply does not exist. Therefore, the historical precedence of the 1968 primary is completely invalid, and that makes Hillary's repeated references to Robert Francis Kennedy VERY suspect.

[Skip Intro]

77. And there comes the condescending attitude. Why do you have to be so arrogant?

"let me condense it down to something even the voters of West Virginia and Kentucky could understand"


Why? Why do that?


The precedence is that primary contests withing the Dem party have indeed gone this long and further. Kennedy was far behind in delegates in 80, but we went to the convention then. And no, that is not what cost Carter the election.

Again, you are only going to see it in the way that you see it, a biased, knee-jerk reaction, imho.

[newmajority]

80. I'm not playing your "bash Ted Kennedy" game.

God damn.... you guys gloat over the assassination of one brother and the terminal illness of another. Only REPUBLICANS have a pathological hatred of the Kennedy family. Is the DLC finally taking off the mask??

As for what you call "arrogance", do I consider myself better than two states full of admitted racists who "won't vote for that Hussein thing"??

You're god damn right I am.

[Skip Intro]

85. Holy fuck. I'd like to see you take a Rorschach test.

seek help

[AtomicKitten]

53. The Clinton people have rendered themselves and her candidacy irrelevant.

At this point, they are simply embarrassing themselves every time they open their mouth.

[jenmito]

56. I just hope the SDs realize that and make their move...

but they'll probably wait 'til June 4th. That's not that far away, though.

[AtomicKitten]

59. Yes, it will be over soon.

5/31 will settle once and for all FL and MI, and Ms. Flick's goalposts will forever be stuck in cement. Rather than being remembered as having run a groundbreaking first female presidential campaign, she leaves in her wake invocations of racism and assassination, unpaid bills, and bitterness that she has cultivated and exploited. That's one fucked-up legacy that she has inflicted upon herself in the annals of history, and she has nobody to blame but herself.

* edited for proper date because this campaign has gone on so long the calender is a tilt-a-whirl :D

[jenmito]

66. Exactly...

(5/31-not 3/31). But I agree. And remember the time she said she's NOT being ganged up on because she's a female but because she's ahead? What happened to THAT?

[Bensthename]

54. Never mind Hillary and Co. They've joined Rush with operation chaos..

It is time Hillary/Rush went on everyones mental ignore list.

[jenmito]

57. True...

it's sad that they are more comfortable with the far RWers than anyone else.

[GalleryGod]

61. Terry: Today's DOUCHEBAG FOR LIBERTY !

:rofl: :patriot: :rofl:

[samsingh]

63. we shouldn't talk about anything that is discussed on fox

they are either irrelevant or traitors.

[Window]

69. There's a special place in hell for every last one of them.

[JerseygirlCT]

70. Just like Bush, she never seems to think she needs to apologize.

bad, bad sign, IMO.

[Bluerthanblue]

72. his advice has really served her well-

NOT-she's lost the nom. and the respect of many people.


Mr. McAuliffe needs to go sit in the corner~

peace~

[DemVet]

75. Terry McAulliffe is correct as usual...Obama deserves no apology

[jenmito]

83. HAHAHAHAHA!!! That's all.

[rainbow4321]

78. Let's see he thinks "entitled to their own opinion" still holds true

When a flood of SD's let THEIR opinion be known in the next few weeks when they come out for Obama (and maybe have some not so nice things to say about HRC????)

That will be fine, right, Mr McAulliffe?? Cuz everyone is entitled to their own opinion!!!

[FlyingSquirrel]

82. Imagine for a moment that she HAD apologized to Obama

The same people calling for it would probably find something wrong with it, call her condescending, etc. etc.

Seriously, you have to understand that an apology to Obama would be an admission of guilt; she could not possibly apologize to him, thereby admitting that she was thinking the unthinkable, without basically ending her career on the spot. So give it up, she's not going to apologize, move on people there's nothing more to see.

[jenmito]

84. Either way...

her career is prettry much over.