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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:44 PM
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Ingrates! After watching Wolfson and McAuliffe on tv today and reading Hillary's addendum
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:03 PM by hisownpetard
to her non-apology, there is nothing left to say except that they are all, in my eyes, nothing but ingrates.

Obama has taken the high road every time, being a gentlemen in every sense of the word.

There is not another person in politics today who would have put up with her 'shame-on-you' finger wagging,
her outright mocking, her derision of his "hope"-based campaign, her twisting the facts, her "as far as I know" moments,
her Rev. Wright comments and everything else she's pulled, without sinking to that level and fighting back.

And now the assassination comments.

For Obama and David Axelrod to both be magnanimous enough to say they take her (and her explanation) at her word is above
and beyond what's required, especially since HRC's camp had the incredible gall to say that Obama's campaign helped fan the flames.

I, however, do not have to hold myself to that standard and therefore can come right out and say it:
Hillary & Co. are INGRATES of the highest order.

That's it. That's all.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:46 PM
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1. I'll second that n/t
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:48 PM
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2. I couldn't watch...
...what did Wolfson and McAuliffe say?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:53 PM
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8. Basically, they blamed the Obama camp and the media for making a mountain out of a molehill.
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:01 PM by hisownpetard
They said that Obama didn't come out soon enough with a statement absolving her of any bad intentions (as if
that were his job) and said that by taking his time, he allowed the flames to be fanned.

(Can you believe that one?! It makes me gnash my teeth so hard I'm getting TMJ!)

They said that Hillary was only referring to RFK in the historical context.

And that there was no need for her to apologize to Obama at all since she said nothing wrong.

In other words, just what you would expect them to say.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:58 PM
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16. What a bunch of insincere assholes...
...did you see the clip from Meet the Press where they were talking about how disingenious Hillary was in her arguments about how long primaries are?

Maybe McAuliffe and Wolfson will catch the repeat.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:49 PM
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3. Ingrates yes
Her and her "army" are a bunch of losers. I guess when its "4th and 99" they feel its ok to hope for an assassination to win. It would be like me saying something like "well we (the raiders) can make the playoffs if Denver doesnt show up for the game which is possible because planes crash, right?" Personally as much as Id like to make the playoffs, Id rather beat Denver Straight up than
appear to need a plane crash to get in. I guess Hillary doesnt get that.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:50 PM
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4. They did fan the flames originally. It was only today they
softened their stand.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:55 PM
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10. That is just untrue. Fanning the flames would be them saying things like, "I can't believe
Hillary is implying that Obama might get assassinated."

They downplayed the whole thing from the start.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:01 PM
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18. Obama's statement of taking Hillary at her word was yesterday...
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:02 PM by lisa58
...the New York Post started the fire with their reporting of the newspaper's editorial boards interview with Clinton. Everyone reacted to the Post's reporting.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/on-the-ro...
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:09 PM
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25. ok
The Obama campaign said that the statement was unfortunate, and when she apologized, David Axelrod went on Hardball and didn't fall in Matthews trap and said that they were taking Hillary at her word with what she meant. And on Saturday, Obama said that it just a misspeak that was caused from the stress of being on the campaign trail. HARSH.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:44 PM
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38. Brutal, brutal stuff.
:shrug:
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:50 PM
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5. THIRD!!!
and I would have to say, I'm amazed at the restraint his campaign has shown.
he has been hit many times, but when anyone criticizes her--we're called sexist.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:57 PM
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13. He refuses to play dirty, which constantly amazes me (and must aggravate them to pieces
'cause they can't get him mad, no matter what despicable thing they pull).
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:51 PM
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6. If he doesn't kick her in the face while she is down...
Wolfson and McAuliffe think it shows weakness. After all, when Obama was accused of being an "elist" and making "bitter" comments, they were right there waiting for their turn to kick him...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:54 PM
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9. If I order one of the scam credit cards in your profile
Can I treat you to one of these?

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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:58 PM
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15. Cat, I'll pay the tip!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:20 PM
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32. Oh. It changed it's profile link. No longer that scam credit card offer
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:23 PM by Catherina
now it says http://www.Hillary-Wins.com

This smells like one of those HillaryIs44 off-shoots. Same stupid talking points. Same delusional crap.

:rofl:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:42 PM
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36. Jeez, we're all getting pretty good at picking them off, aren't we?
Sort of like scabs, after you've endured a bad bout of chicken pox.

Eww.
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:56 PM
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12. She hired such brilliant people to run he campaign, what would her cabinet look like?
Mark Penn was such a idiot he thought it was winner take all primaries, I wonder why he only knew the republican rules going in?
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:12 PM
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28. seriously? - you can do better than that.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:17 PM
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39. Odd how Bill liked caucus states
Or how Hillary ignored them.

Or how Mark Penn never bothered to learn how they worked.

Or that caucuses have been round for longer than you have.

I agree caucuses are not as representative as party vote(NOT popular vote - that comes in the GE) but no one has complained about them since Mondale and no serious attempt has been made to reform them. Live with it; Hillary ran an abysmal campaign, showed that she was not fit to be president and LOST

Or do you think all rules and mathematics should be ignored to serve the annointment of Hillary as the once and future President. Why not arrange a military coup and install her in the job?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:56 PM
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11. Get the this post the fuck out of here
and get it on the Greatest Page where you belong!

5th rec here!

:P
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:59 PM
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17. Thanks, Bloo!
:toast:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:18 PM
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31. Hey! I rec'd too!
I just watched George Stephanopoulos "spinning like a top" (blogslut's great wording) and then read your OP. I rec'd it, I rec'd it!

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4926658
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:25 PM
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33. But I had a funny hook in this thread! yah!
:P
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:40 PM
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35. Thanks, Cat! Appreciate it.
:hi:
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:57 PM
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14. She is insulting our intelligence
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:02 PM
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20. Just because she dresses like a bumblebee doesn't mean we have to believe her buzz!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:02 PM
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19. Ok, my damn neck is sore from nodding 'yes' to your points, but
on top of that you know your way around sentences.

A pleasure to read.

Hillary Clinton was ill-served by the very people you name, which prompts me to wonder why she didn't can their asses after Iowa? Obama and Edwards both placed ahead of her in Iowa, and she only edged out a win in New Hampshire. Then in South Carolina the wheels just came off. Pissing off Jim Clyborne is not the best possible political strategy out there.

Another question worth asking is whether a court hearing should be docketed to force Lanny Davis into involuntarily comittment to a long-term care facility.

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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:09 PM
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23. Ooof - Lanny Davis. He's another one. What a group - like a scene from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's
Nest).

(And thanks for the compliment, OC. I feel the same way about your writing, always
a pleasure to read).
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:02 PM
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21. She's really shown her true colors. Thank goodness for Obama; if not for him, she'd be our nominee.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:05 PM
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22. And, for me, the irony of it all is that the length of this interminable primary season
has allowed us to get to see the real Hilliary Clinton, and to run the other way.


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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:09 PM
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24. You're right...
...I hadn't thought of it that way before - she's becoming what she wants Obama to be - a terrible candidate!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:11 PM
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27. And while she was waiting for something catastrophic to happen, it did!
(Only she didn't plan on it happening to *her* and not Obama).


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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:15 PM
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30. Think Jon Stewart will cover that on Tuesday night?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:39 PM
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34. I'd bet my lunch money on it.
:bounce:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:11 PM
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26. Baghdad Bob was funnier than these two
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:12 PM
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29. Didn't he win the "Last Comic Standing"?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:43 PM
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37. Obama rudely co-opted Hillary's political ability to play the victim, here.
He ought to be ashamed of himself. Shame! Shame!
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